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    Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    I was just thinking about the abilities of the Naruto world and I was wondering what the ultimate jutsu of each element would be.

    By ultimate jutsu I mean the most destructive power of that particular element as seen in nature.

    I thought the ultimate fire jutsu would obviously be Amaterasu. Then I reconsidered. I think a jutsu should be something that can be learned by anybody with enough ability, chakra, control and that particular elemental affinity. The Mangekyou jutsu's don't fall into that category.

    I think the ultimate lightning jutsu might hyave to be Kirin. It's a bolt of lightning. Can't beat that.

    What would make an ultimate wind jutsu? A Hurricane? Is it a bit suspicious that Naruto post time skip is called Shippudden? Maybe Naruto might learn how to unleash a hurricane.

    The ultimate water jutsu? Maybe a Tsunami? The ultimate earth and fire jutsu?

    Just a note. I consider the Rasengan and Rasenshuriken more Chakra manipulation with an element added than an actual wind jutsu. So no saying Rasenshuriken for ultimate wind jutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    I'm not sure, but I guess lightning and earth would be the strongest.
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by apple pie of doom View Post
    I'm not sure, but I guess lightning and earth would be the strongest.
    Perhaps. But I actually meant what would be the ultimate ninjutsu of each element.

    example -

    Wind - Hurricane?
    Lightning - Kirin
    Earth - Earthquake? Quicksand?
    Fire - ?
    Water - Tsunami?

    But your post was quite interesting too. Would the ultimate ninjutsu of one element be more powerful than the others?
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    The strongest elemental ninjutsu are..

    Wind - Rasen-Shuriken
    Lightning - Karin
    Earth - Not sure :/
    Fire - I'm pretty sure Amaterasu counts as a fire release
    Water - The attack kisame used against KB to make a world of water
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    Perhaps. But I actually meant what would be the ultimate ninjutsu of each element.

    example -

    Wind - Hurricane?
    Lightning - Kirin
    Earth - Earthquake? Quicksand?
    Fire - ?
    Water - Tsunami?

    But your post was quite interesting too. Would the ultimate ninjutsu of one element be more powerful than the others?
    well the stongest jutsu ever would have something to do with the Sun
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Kirin?
    No...
    Imagine a lightning storm, meaning about a few 10s of lightningbolts, that would beat it.
    Earth - earthquake ( escape that, since ninja can't fly so far )
    Water - tsunami ( but ninja's can walk on wter, might be able to escape this )
    Wind - a hurricane or someting, or razor sharp winds.
    Fire - Sephiroth's Supernova :D
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsndshanks View Post
    The strongest elemental ninjutsu are..

    Wind - Rasen-Shuriken
    Lightning - Karin
    Earth - Not sure :/
    Fire - I'm pretty sure Amaterasu counts as a fire release
    Water - The attack kisame used against KB to make a world of water
    As I said.. the Rasenshuriken is more chakra manipulation with wind element added than a purely wind jutsu.

    As for Amaterasu... the reason i'm not counting it is that to cast it requires a bloodline which needs to be developed to a great degree and then it causes blindness upon using it. Also.. and correct me if i'm wrong.. but every sharingan has different abilities so the only people that can cast it were Itachi and now Sasuke. I'm looking more for jutsu that a kage level shinobi with that chakra nature can potentially cast.

    Quote Originally Posted by apple pie of doom View Post
    Kirin?
    No...
    Imagine a lightning storm, meaning about a few 10s of lightningbolts, that would beat it.
    Earth - earthquake ( escape that, since ninja can't fly so far )
    Water - tsunami ( but ninja's can walk on wter, might be able to escape this )
    Wind - a hurricane or someting, or razor sharp winds.
    Fire - Sephiroth's Supernova :D
    I doubt you can water walk yourself out of a Tsunami. It's horrendously powerful.

    As for a hurricane with razor sharp winds... I would think you've got it right. A wind attack that has winds blowing at upwards of a hundred and thirty miles per hour and razor sharp winds added to it would potentially defeat an army.

    lol imagine adding a fire attack to it. Armageddon.
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Lightening - Limelight (as shown and told in the anime, although it was a filler it must have got some approval from kishi)
    Water - Tsunami
    Earth - Eartquake or Opening the crust of the earth into the core (hell).
    Fire - The attack Kakuzu did that almost killed Kakashi and Naruto
    Wind - Piercing Wind Vortex
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Each Element has it strength and weakness depending on how you mach it up against and the amount of chakra the user has to give it. wind makes fire stronger,water makes fire weaker,wind is stronger than lightning and so on and on it deepens against which element you used against and what elements work together and what elements combine can created a new element.
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    As I said.. the Rasenshuriken is more chakra manipulation with wind element added than a purely wind jutsu.

    lol imagine adding a fire attack to it. Armageddon.
    OK, FRS is the most powerful wind element jutsu out there. If you disallow that you have to disallow Kirin. Kirin isn't really a lightening element jutsu that draws out much chakra from the user; rather it's lightening drawn from the sky and requires a good deal of preparation of get nimbus clouds unless Sasuke will only fight people on days with thunderstorms. The thing is that Kirin doesn't really use the users internal chakra because it's impossible to produce that much damage.

    Jiraiya's combination jutsu of toad oil, wind, and fire for the "deep fryer" fire style jutsu was intense even though he used Ma and Pa toad too.

    Regarding FRS, every badass jutsu is composed of shape and elemental manipulation. Chidori does the same thing as FRS, it's just that FRS has the ultimate shape manipulation. You can disallow it if you want, I don't care. I just disagree.
     
         
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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    There isn't a 'strongest' element since once is always weak against another and strong against a different one.

    Depends to the Users if you use the five elements then your the strongest
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Right Kabuto2 it all deepens on the mach up and the users amount of Chakra for example water is normally stronger than fire but if the fire user has 2 or more times the chakra in them it might created a strong enough fire to evaporate the water.
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
    OK, FRS is the most powerful wind element jutsu out there. If you disallow that you have to disallow Kirin. Kirin isn't really a lightening element jutsu that draws out much chakra from the user; rather it's lightening drawn from the sky and requires a good deal of preparation of get nimbus clouds unless Sasuke will only fight people on days with thunderstorms. The thing is that Kirin doesn't really use the users internal chakra because it's impossible to produce that much damage.

    Jiraiya's combination jutsu of toad oil, wind, and fire for the "deep fryer" fire style jutsu was intense even though he used Ma and Pa toad too.

    Regarding FRS, every badass jutsu is composed of shape and elemental manipulation. Chidori does the same thing as FRS, it's just that FRS has the ultimate shape manipulation. You can disallow it if you want, I don't care. I just disagree.
    Erm.. Kirin is okay specifically for the reason that it is lightening drawn from the sky. What can be a more powerful jutsu of lightening than summoning lightening itself?

    As for every badass jutsu having shape manipulation... the only two I know of is Rasengan and Chidori... what are the others?

    The only reason I disallowed the FRS was because the wind element is added to enhance the jutsu... its not the core to the jutsu. It's not purely a wind element jutsu.

    I always think of the Rasenshuriken as the ultimate shape manipulation jutsu. You may think otherwise.

    Also I put no conditions on whether the jutsu needs help to be performed. That's fine.

    The only jutsus I suggested not be put forward were the Mangekyou jutsus and the FRS.
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Ham View Post
    Erm.. Kirin is okay specifically for the reason that it is lightening drawn from the sky. What can be a more powerful jutsu of lightening than summoning lightening itself?
    dude karin is done by setting up jutsus like fire etc to change the weather and then use his element without having to use any chackra just to trigger it so its just like the FRS since its not purely preformed with only using lightning element
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    I don't think that large area wide attacks are necessarily the strongest such as a Tsunami. Possibly something condensed or more focused on hitting one target.

    High pressure water attack similar to what Sasori was using but stronger or maybe a powerful beam of lightning. Those types of attacks have my vote.

    Of course though, one user using the same attack might not be the as powerful as the other.
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Well i think for water would be the power to take the liquid out of someones body

    Fire should be amerterasu

    Earth... m, quicksand, gap through the earths crust, earthquake

    wind, huricane or just like FRS but its created like a dome round and opponent then closses in and gets them

    Lightning would be just a fast bolt of lightning or you can control static in the air and shock someone to death



    Thats what i think
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by The Pervy Sage View Post
    Well i think for water would be the power to take the liquid out of someones body

    Fire should be amerterasu

    Earth... m, quicksand, gap through the earths crust, earthquake

    wind, huricane or just like FRS but its created like a dome round and opponent then closses in and gets them

    Lightning would be just a fast bolt of lightning or you can control static in the air and shock someone to death



    Thats what i think
    lol i like it even though u sound like ur talking about one piece :P
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by StealthShinobi View Post
    lol i like it even though u sound like ur talking about one piece :P
    Ive never watched one peice lol
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Lightning
     
         

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    Re: Most Powerful Elemental Ninjutsu

    Wind - ...dunno
    Lightning - ..dunno
    Earth - Iron sand(Third Kazekage)
    Fire - amaterasu(itachi,sasuke)
    Water - probably that sphere of water(kisame)
     
         

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