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    Re: Naruto HAS to learn edo tensei

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink3 View Post
    I wouldnt care, theyre already dead, edo tensei just makes their spirits come back into a zombie body, so whatever lol.

    I'd easily fight a dead person-they're dead.

    And its kind of funny how you suggest tobi would have sad feelings about fighting a loved one when hes supposed to be a badass super villain who got sasuke to kill danzou by sacrificing Karin, someone who could be considered close considering shes saved his ass more times than a pornstars ****ed.

    Kinda contradictory to the characters no?

    I just think Kishi screwed up, for 1, plothole, for 2, side character Kabuto is becoming the main villain, which is similar on the other spectrum as making ten ten the main hero.

    See how much itd suck making ten ten the new hero of the story?

    Yeah, well thats how much Kabuto sucks as the main villain, hes such a boring side characters thats now been OP'd beyond belief.
    You may not care, but you are not Tobi. Tobi may care. Tobi(Madara) stole his brother's eyes. I dont think anyone like to fight the spirit/ghost of someone from whom we stole their PRECIOUS BELONGINGS especially closely related to us.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto HAS to learn edo tensei

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink3 View Post
    Okay, I give, I give, Tobi looked scared for lulz, not because he was ACTUALLY scared.

    1 thing that scares all life-forms, and thats death, hence why you fight/run/diplomacise your way out of any tough situations that could cause this death.

    Which is what tobi just did.

    Or he was just fooling around for lulz, which would just make the storyline even more crap.
    During the chuunin exam, Kakashi was scared to death on his encounter with Oro. He can't even do anything. That doesn't mean that he was dead. Even Ibiki, the famous interrogator of Konoha was scared of Oro, but he was not dead. They are scared of Oro. That's it. The Third, Jiraiya, Haku, etc are not afraid of death. So, it may not be the right thing to say that all life forms are afraid of dying.

    But i think i understand what you are trying to say. PEace
     
         
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    Re: Naruto HAS to learn edo tensei

    Quote Originally Posted by Konoha Rokudaime View Post
    During the chuunin exam, Kakashi was scared to death on his encounter with Oro. He can't even do anything. That doesn't mean that he was dead. Even Ibiki, the famous interrogator of Konoha was scared of Oro, but he was not dead. They are scared of Oro. That's it. The Third, Jiraiya, Haku, etc are not afraid of death. So all life forms are not afraid of death.

    But i think i understand what you are trying to say. PEace
    Okay I didnt mean they die on the spot.

    But oro vs Kakashi is whats happened to Kabuto vs Tobi.

    Kabuto obviously has a power that scares tobi (edo tensei) but the 4th stated only ONE special power can beat tobi.

    so whys tobi scared of edo tensei? Unless edo tensei IS the special power? But its not because Naruto would never do that

    Only thing left on the table is plothole
     
         

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    Re: Naruto HAS to learn edo tensei

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink3 View Post
    Yes, agreed, and if Naruto isnt going to learn edo tensei, which has tobi scared, despite Kishi stating theres only one way to defeat him.

    Whats the conclusion?

    The conclusion is tobi can be killed by edo tensei despite the 4th saying 1 special way is required, thus making Narutos learning pointless as you can simply get less moraled character to spam edo tensei against tobi, which is a giant plothole.

    Even after my explanation post you still dont get it.

    I am being jokey and sarcastic in some of my ways.

    Basically I found a plothole.

    The 4th states you need a special power to defeat tobi

    tobis scared of Kabutos edo tensei

    So edo tensei is this special power (which we have logically and correctly stated is not the special power) which leaves us with 1 remaining choice-Plothole
    Couple of things... just because Madara backed down doesn't mean Kabuto could kill him. If Kabuto could kill him he might have killed him and gone after Sasuke right away.

    Secondly... just because the fourth said something doesn't mean its true. It is true as he believed it.. but since when has the fourth become all knowing? He was human too... and prone to making mistakes.

    For christs sake... he thought Konoha would actually treat Naruto like a hero.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto HAS to learn edo tensei

    Naruto is not going to use a forbidden Jutsu and kill people to use it, It goes agains His Nindo, His Ninja way.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto HAS to learn edo tensei

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink3 View Post
    Okay I didnt mean they die on the spot.

    But oro vs Kakashi is whats happened to Kabuto vs Tobi.

    Kabuto obviously has a power that scares tobi (edo tensei) but the 4th stated only ONE special power can beat tobi.

    so whys tobi scared of edo tensei? Unless edo tensei IS the special power? But its not because Naruto would never do that

    Only thing left on the table is plothole
    Neither did i mean they die on the spot.
    What you say is "Since Tobi is scared of the last summoned by Kabuto's Edo Tensei, the summon is capable of defeating Tobi". Right?

    But, i totally contradict your idea. Like i've said if the summoned is Tobi(Madara)'s brother, Tobi will not like to fight his brother from whom he stole his eyes. So, he prefers to avoid that. But that doesn't mean that he would lose to the summoned. Its just that after obtaining his goal(winning the war and capturing all tailed beasts, he wouldn't have any use for Sasuke), he will gladly give Sasuke to Kabuto, that's it. Besides, Kabuto will contribute a lot in the war.

    Edo Tensei is not a special power. Its a forbidden jutsu since it requires sacrifice. If its not a forbidden one, most jounins will learn easily. There is no speciality. I bet even Konohamaru can learn it, summoned the one which Kabuto summoned and beat madara. LOL

    The one special is Nine-Tails. None but only one person can obtain this. Naruto after capable of controlling Nine-Tails Naruto will learn THAT JUTSU. Using that(may be some more new techniques, who knows?), he will beat Tobi. That's the reason why the Fourth sealed Nine-Tails inside naruto and for Naruto manga series.

    There is no plot hole regarding the special power. No offence but i think there is plot hole in your mind.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto HAS to learn edo tensei

    Mkey, i just had to register to post this ^^

    1st things first

    As to the whole "logic" of the 1st post:


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    And now the explenation:

    1. 4th said about SOME power, not edo directy. It leaves us some room to guess. Add to it what he said while talking with naruto ( pain fight) and the logic would chose kyubi control skillz

    My sugestion, next time use all the info you can get , not just one sentence.

    2. Edo is for SMART people, and lets face it, naru is simply stupid ( sry naru fanbois ) Ok he is smart when it comes to a fight, but the reset of the time.... Look at Einstein, a briliant guy, but was a noob when it comes to $

    Why is it for smart people ? The DNA part, can he understand things like that ? will he be able to get dna of a corpse ? Edo is NOT a skill you learn with your body, and since that is the method naru uses to learn his skills, he will fail.

    The sacrafice part and naru clones, a KB is NOT the same as a real body, or do you go puff and are gone when i hit you ? It cant be distinguished from a real body, but still its not the same thing. And what do you think will happen to naru, when the KB ends ( remember the trening for the fullpower rasengan.. naruto fainted. ) ? And as the las part, as some of you wrote, its not his style to kill people to get what he wants.

    3 And most important, the Tobi - Kabuto episode. He was NOT afraid of the skill alone, but of what was summoned.
    Think, a bit, what could it be ? 1/2 hokage, not impresive imo, madara would be like " omg again" and not " you madman!!111" He is/was one of the mose powerfull ninja in the world, so simple brut force wont work on him.


    Madara was scared of the person that was summoned, and it was... (imo) uchiha .......(insert name here :P )... a person who could ruin his plans, remember, madara needs sasuke ( as he himself said ) so what would happen if kabuto went to sasuke, summoned, someone that would tell the truth bout the uchiha, a truth, that would be different from what sasuke knows....

    Edo is like the thing you have in your pants my fraind ^^ its not the size, but how you use it :P
     
         
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