[Discussion] Default more powerful EMS or Sage Mode?

[Modaro]

Ems will lose. Sure you can let see your opponents moves and copy their jutsu,but thats all it does when talking about uses in a fight.

Sage mode is better because to master is a hard thing to do. You don't feel as much damage as you normally would and the charka is natrual energy.

Sasuke & Naruto

Sasuke
Just cause he's got(getting0 ems doesn't mean anything. If at anything it proves how weak he is. sasuke just got his ms and he was starting to go blind. Itachi had his for years and didnt start to go blind until shippuden. Sasuke relies to much on his sharingan which in the end will be his down fall.

Naruto
Naruto has an arsenal of jutsu that we have yet to seen. The rasengan will definitely protect him against Kirin should sasuke use it (if u disagree i'll explain). He has sage mode which give him tons of charka and cut any damage done to him in half. Plus the kyuubi will not allow any harm (seriuos harm that is)to Naruto so its practically as if he is not even getting hit. Sasuke in the end will run out of charka while naruto as of this moment appears to have an infinte amount. Killer Bee which may also be in fray once sasuke and naruto start to fight (assuming Kisame doesn't attack first and waits for the battle to start), will teach naruto how to gain control over the kyuubi. So Naruto is in a position where Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.



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Just one thing the futon rasengan or rasenshuriken would protect against kirin non normal rasengan because it is just compressed chakra. While The FS and RS are more powerful elemental versions that out class sasuke's lighning element with wind.

[~Rerrando~]

im rather disappointed in u guys 4 choosing EMS. all it does is allow to use MS 4ever( how ever long u live that is) naruto is the obvious choice i mean he is by far the most powerful character in the series(aside frm being the main character)

[~Rerrando~]

The problem is that Naruto has trouble with Genjutsu, When Itachi attack Him He could no break out of it with His own chakra, it was not enough. Now by Mastering the Fox and Sage Chakra Naruto can produce all the chakra needed to break a Genjutsu.

notice u said "his own charka" when KB teaches naruto how 2 control the kyuubi the kyuubi will get naruto out any genjutsu....... sasuke will mis-use itachi's power any way so it doesn't matter

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

im rather disappointed in u guys 4 choosing EMS. all it does is allow to use MS 4ever( how ever long u live that is) naruto is the obvious choice i mean he is by far the most powerful character in the series(aside frm being the main character)

EMS is also supposed to give birth to an unknown dojutsu which is presumably stronger than Susanoo.

As of right now, Naruto doesn't even have a counter to Susanoo unless he can get Gamabunta and Gamaken to hold down its' arms, and even then it might seal them away.

Danzo has found the opening point in Susanoo, but Naruto does not have that at the moment. While Sage Mode is the bee's knees, it will NOT make him invulnerable to Susanoo, though there are probably a billion theories as to how this could work. Each one would take forever, whereas Sasuke woulda had a hole in Naruto by then.

While I don't think Sasuke could kick Naruto's ass, he'd probably win at the moment.

How can you say Naruto is the most powerful when we don't know what Sasuke's EMS can do, nor do we know what Madara, or Kabuto can do.

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Ems will lose. Sure you can let see your opponents moves and copy their jutsu,but thats all it does when talking about uses in a fight.

Sage mode is better because to master is a hard thing to do. You don't feel as much damage as you normally would and the charka is natrual energy.

Sasuke & Naruto

Sasuke
Just cause he's got(getting0 ems doesn't mean anything. If at anything it proves how weak he is. sasuke just got his ms and he was starting to go blind. Itachi had his for years and didnt start to go blind until shippuden. Sasuke relies to much on his sharingan which in the end will be his down fall.

Naruto
Naruto has an arsenal of jutsu that we have yet to seen. The rasengan will definitely protect him against Kirin should sasuke use it (if u disagree i'll explain). He has sage mode which give him tons of charka and cut any damage done to him in half. Plus the kyuubi will not allow any harm (seriuos harm that is)to Naruto so its practically as if he is not even getting hit. Sasuke in the end will run out of charka while naruto as of this moment appears to have an infinte amount. Killer Bee which may also be in fray once sasuke and naruto start to fight (assuming Kisame doesn't attack first and waits for the battle to start), will teach naruto how to gain control over the kyuubi. So Naruto is in a position where Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.



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Based on your logic, your saying an street fighter can kill a guy with a gun whose standing far enough to avoid his hits, but not far enough that he can't just shoot him point blank.

I'm all for Sage Mode. See my icon for more details. Let's not overrate it though. We don't know what Sasuke's EMS can do, while we have a clear view of Naruto's Sage Mode.

While I don't doubt that Naruto will beat Sasuke, he cannot do it now.

[~Rerrando~]

EMS is also supposed to give birth to an unknown dojutsu which is presumably stronger than Susanoo.

As of right now, Naruto doesn't even have a counter to Susanoo unless he can get Gamabunta and Gamaken to hold down its' arms, and even then it might seal them away.

Danzo has found the opening point in Susanoo, but Naruto does not have that at the moment. While Sage Mode is the bee's knees, it will NOT make him invulnerable to Susanoo, though there are probably a billion theories as to how this could work. Each one would take forever, whereas Sasuke woulda had a hole in Naruto by then.

While I don't think Sasuke could kick Naruto's ass, he'd probably win at the moment.

As i stated sasuke will mis-use the great power that he shall recieve and as of the fight over all you have to account for everybody else especially Kabuto is probably out to kill Sasuke instead of using his body to bring back Oro. Killer bee is going to pose a major threat as well as Kakshi who was al most if not there or somewhat less an equal to Itachi who was by far one of the strongest/coolest/most epic characters in the series, so kakshi is going to be able to help naruto or he could and this will be way off by a mile, but should he do it he could give naruto his sharingan just to help out but in the end that would cause more harm then good so that would be impossible..................where was i going with this?:confused::confused::confused:

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

As i stated sasuke will mis-use the great power that he shall recieve and as of the fight over all you have to account for everybody else especially Kabuto is probably out to kill Sasuke instead of using his body to bring back Oro. Killer bee is going to pose a major threat as well as Kakshi who was al most if not there or somewhat less an equal to Itachi who was by far one of the strongest/coolest/most epic characters in the series, so kakshi is going to be able to help naruto or he could and this will be way off by a mile, but should he do it he could give naruto his sharingan just to help out but in the end that would cause more harm then good so that would be impossible..................where was i going with this?:confused::confused::confused:

Whether or not he mis-uses it isn't the case. This isn't star wars and Sasuke isn't one of those dudes with the swords.

Kakashi got beat by Itachi pretty easily in part I by an Itachi that wasn't even trying to kill him. Then part II comes and they face off against a 30% clone, and even that battle drags on a bit.

Why would Kakashi give Naruto a Sharingan? So he could have a gaping black hole in his eye?

This fight is for Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto has stated that he wants to fight Sasuke without interference. If you want to add that people will step in, what about Kisame? Madara? Kabuto's summons? Whatever Zetsu can do?

[~Rerrando~]

Whether or not he mis-uses it isn't the case. This isn't star wars and Sasuke isn't one of those dudes with the swords.

Kakashi got beat by Itachi pretty easily in part I by an Itachi that wasn't even trying to kill him. Then part II comes and they face off against a 30% clone, and even that battle drags on a bit.

Why would Kakashi give Naruto a Sharingan? So he could have a gaping black hole in his eye?

This fight is for Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto has stated that he wants to fight Sasuke without interference. If you want to add that people will step in, what about Kisame? Madara? Kabuto's summons? Whatever Zetsu can do?

Kakshi would probably give Naruto his sharingan so he can counter most of sasukes moves. Madara will be leading the attack against every one so he can't help in that fight. Kisame is probably waiting for his chance to either attack KB or to leave and give madara info the Kages plans to Madara. Zetsu can make perfect clones of anything so im pretty sure that madara will have him make his army out of the re-animated bodies of Itachi and the others that Kabuto re-animated. Kabut ois only after Sasuke so he is probably pretending to help Madara so he get to sasuke so he get his revenge on him for killing Oro. Naruto is learning how to control the kyuubi who is the only one who will "help" Naruto that has seen Madara's EMs so he will have an advantage since the Kyuubi knows about EMS and should know about this jutsu that you speak of.