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    Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan


    Like I have said before, the Rikudou Sennin was born from a woman like any other human being, unlike other's assumption that he was a god who descended into the world without relatives:



    Rikudou Sennin/Hagoromo Ootsuki's mother was a Princess:



    A princess of what during ancient times? a tribe:



    An Era when tribes worship Nature (Animism/Shamanism), which in this case is the God-Tree: The Juubi.

    Kaguya and her tribe were probably the shamanic guardians (albeit non-ninjutsu wielders) of the God-Tree:



    That is why she had direct knowledge and access to the tree and its fruit:



    Like I've said, tribes/clans were already in existence even before the Shinobi Era:



    I believe that when Rikudou/Hagoromo Ootsuki started the Shinobi Era, he converted his and his mother's tribe members and kindred into the modern Shinobi-Era Clan.

    Which became the Uzumaki Clan:



    It only proves Kushina's statement that the Uzumaki Clan were distant blood relatives, they descended not directly from Rikudou Sennin like the Senju and Uchiha but from Rikudou/Hagoromo's kindred

    Some will insist that the Uzumaki Clan descended from the Younger Son only but this isn't true because the Younger Son's descendants were specified to have been the Senjus only:



    And only during a later time that the Elder and Younger Son's descendants were called the Senjus and Uchihas.

    It's just the same with the Elder and Younger Sons of Rikudou, the Elder was (First Name) Ootsuki while the Younger was (First Name) Ootsuki but their descendants became the Uchihas and Senjus, even if they weren't called Uchihas and Senjus, the Elder Son was an Uchiha because he was the Uchiha Ancestor while the Younger Son was the Senju Ancestor, same thing with the Uzumaki Clan: Hagoromo Ootsuki's Tribesmen/Kinsmen were the Progenitor Uzumakis making Rikudou and his kin the First Uzumakis.

    I firmly believe that Princess Kaguya/Hagoromo's Tribe were the Progenitor Uzumakis aka the first Uzumakis, they may have had the surname Ootsutsuki, but most probably during the dawn of the New Era aka Shinobi Era their Tribe became the Uzumaki Tribe.

    Which only makes sense for Rikudou/Hagoromo to reincarnate himself from his own tribe kindred:

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    Naruto Uzumaki

     
         
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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Kaguya Ōtsutsuki = milf

    but we still need to know more about the sage's father
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Expect ridicule, but this is entirely possible. It coincides with Naruto and the parallel with Rikudou.

    Naruto -> Takes his mothers last name because of his father and possible persecution

    Rikudou -> Takes his mothers name to protect his Kin/any other feasible reason.
     
         

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    If she has a yinseal, if she does I will have a fangasm so big, that the whole earth will move.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by FemmeFatale View Post
    If she has a yinseal, if she does I will have a fangasm so big, that the whole earth will move.

    how much do you weigh ?
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    I still believe your theory Sir Derp. You substantiated your initial theory and elucidated it so lucidly that it's almost inconceivable for it to be not true. You synthesized facts from many different angles and the coherent theory as a whole is beyond a doubt. Sage=Uzumaki no matter what chapter is revealed
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Eeeeey, where were you at

    Very plausible. Rikudou and Kaguya may have been the start of the Uzumaki, and converted Kaguya's tribe members into Uzumaki.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Well this is a very plausible theory, but we all know kishimoto does what kishimoto wants.
    Good job though making another quality thread.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big boss View Post
    how much do you weigh ?
    (89 pounds im not that big, Im too boney)

    But my fangasm will be composed of a energy greater than any matter can produce.

    And never ask a lady her weight if you wish to have kids in the future.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    She could have been the princess of a country and not a clan. How do you know for sure. Egyptians/Babylonians are pretty ancient yet they were more than just a clan. You can't know for sure.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Shut up, please. You have no proof for your theory, you've got a bunch of pictures to make it look nice but realistically you have no substance.

    Anyone could claim ANYTHING if it hasn't yet proved to be incorrect.

    For instance, I could claim I have a theory concerning the fight between the Juubi and SO6P, that the SO6P didn't fight the Juubi but just sealed him.

    It fits into the story, but is realistically complete bullshit, with no evidence pointing to it.

    Your "I firmly believe" is fooling nobody.

    Stop trying to save some pride, accept you were wrong.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Its an interesting theory, and it is possible.
     
         

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    Nice thread. Plausible.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by Rokudaime Hokage Naruto View Post
    Shut up, please. You have no proof for your theory, you've got a bunch of pictures to make it look nice but realistically you have no substance.

    Anyone could claim ANYTHING if it hasn't yet proved to be incorrect.

    For instance, I could claim I have a theory concerning the fight between the Juubi and SO6P, that the SO6P didn't fight the Juubi but just sealed him.

    It fits into the story, but is realistically complete bullshit, with no evidence pointing to it.

    Your "I firmly believe" is fooling nobody.

    Stop trying to save some pride, accept you were wrong.
    I had no idea you were Kishimoto, by all means tell us all what will happen next.

    Sir Derp Obito is still trying and theorizing even when people ridicule him, that takes guts.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by raziel777 View Post
    She could have been the princess of a country and not a clan. How do you know for sure. Egyptians/Babylonians are pretty ancient yet they were more than just a clan. You can't know for sure.
    But Kaguya lived in very ancient times from the dawn of civilization, tribes were the "kingdoms" of these ancient eras, and usually (if not always) tribes practice inbreeding keeping their gene pool intact.

    Don't you think it's quite absurd that Rikudou/Hagoromo would convert other people/tribes into Shinobi Clans and not convert his own tribe/people into Shinobis? Obviously Rikudou/Hagoromo's tribe also became a Shinobi Clan, and what clan is that? the Uzumaki Clan.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by Rokudaime Hokage Naruto View Post
    Shut up, please. You have no proof for your theory, you've got a bunch of pictures to make it look nice but realistically you have no substance.

    Anyone could claim ANYTHING if it hasn't yet proved to be incorrect.

    For instance, I could claim I have a theory concerning the fight between the Juubi and SO6P, that the SO6P didn't fight the Juubi but just sealed him.

    It fits into the story, but is realistically complete bullshit, with no evidence pointing to it.

    Your "I firmly believe" is fooling nobody.

    Stop trying to save some pride, accept you were wrong.
    Yo, dumbass. It's a theory.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by saw2097 View Post
    I had no idea you were Kishimoto, by all means tell us all what will happen next.

    Sir Derp Obito is still trying and theorizing even when people ridicule him, that takes guts.
    Yeah takes guts on a forum.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post

    Like I have said before, the Rikudou Sennin was born from a woman and had a father, unlike other's assumption that he was a god who descended into the world without relatives:



    Rikudou Sennin/Hagoromo Ootsuki's mother was a Princess:



    A princess of what during ancient times? a tribe:



    Kaguya and her tribe were probably the shamanic guardians (albeit non-ninjutsu wielders) of the God-Tree:



    That is why she had direct knowledge and access to the tree and its fruit:



    Like I've said, tribes/clans were already in existence even before the Shinobi Era:



    I believe that when Rikudou/Hagoromo Ootsuki started the Shinobi Era, he converted his and his mother's tribe members and kindred into the modern Shinobi-Era Clan.

    Which became the Uzumaki Clan:



    It only proves Kushina's statement that the Uzumaki Clan were distant blood relatives, they descended not directly from Rikudou Sennin like the Senju and Uchiha but from Rikudou/Hagoromo's kindred

    Some will insist that the Uzumaki Clan descended from the Younger Son only but this isn't true because the Younger Son's descendants were specified to have been the Senjus only:



    And only during a later time that the Elder and Younger Son's descendants were called the Senjus and Uchihas.

    I firmly believe that Princess Kaguya/Hagoromo's Tribe were the Progenitor Uzumakis aka the first Uzumakis, they may have had the surname Ootsutsuki, but most probably during the dawn of the New Era aka Shinobi Era their Tribe became the Uzumaki Tribe.

    Which only makes sense for Rikudou/Hagoromo to reincarnate himself from his own tribe kindred:

    Viz


    Naruto Uzumaki

    what is your sig from
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by NamikazeUzumakiNaruto View Post
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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    I said this so many times, and no one takes me seriously because I don't have Derp in my name

    Nice to see you back btw lmao
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by ballerjordan View Post
    Yo, dumbass. It's a theory.
    I know it's a theory, I'm not complaining about him being wrong or whatever. Everyone is wrong sometimes. I dislike how he's trying to distract us from an empty theory with extra pictures and statements that we already know which add no substance to his theory.

    He could have made a thread which just said. Sage's clan became Uzumaki over time. The rest is just filler to make it seem legit. I dislike people who do this.
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    no
    the sage's chakra and the uzumaki's chakra aren't the same
    the uzumaki's are known for their life-force the sage had strong life-force,physical energies,and spritual energies
    naruto sucks with genjutsu
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Not this uzumaki bs
    Don't ever compare a uzumaki to her maybe nagato and naruto
     
         

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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    no
    the sage's chakra and the uzumaki's chakra aren't the same
    the uzumaki's are known for their life-force the sage had strong life-force,physical energies,and spritual energies
    naruto sucks with genjutsu
    The powers of the Uchiha and Senju directly came from the Juubi, I don't need to tell you that the Juubi is a gigantic Mokuton Tree and its Eye is the Sharingan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rokudaime Hokage Naruto View Post
    He could have made a thread which just said. Sage's clan became Uzumaki over time. The rest is just filler to make it seem legit. I dislike people who do this.
    I have specified on many occasions that Rikudou did not belong to a Shinobi-era Clan because he was the founder of Shinobi, what I have been saying from the very beginning is that his bloodline/family/tribe during the Pre-Ninjutsu Era later became the Uzumaki Clan,
     
         
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    Re: Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

    Also
    Some will insist that the Uzumaki Clan descended from the Younger Son only but this isn't true because the Younger Son's descendants were specified to have been the Senjus only
    This is complete bull passing off opinion as fact. Usually when you start with an ancestor, the family tree widens with each passing generation, so there can be more than one descendant per ancestor.

    But still the idiots will eat all of this up.
     
         

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