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    Uchiha is the 10 tails in human form

    Haven't seen this posted here, and I think it's good. After hearing what Kakashi said, I used to think the Sharingan originated from the Byakugan. There was nothing else to go on or even contradict that. For me, this changed when the 10 tails was revealed:


    From there, I constructed more theories, which I'll get to. Some people commonly say it's a combination of the Rinnegan and Sharingan. I see no real reason to think that unless I want the Rinnegan to be a part of everything, and I don't. One theory is that the Sage is controlling the beast with his eyes. Similar to what happened to Manda, the Rinnegan appears in the beast's eye to symbolize the control of the Sage. That's sounds credible at first, but there's a problem: It wasn't stated, or even implied anywhere that the Rinnegan can control beasts, at least through genjutsu. People are quick to use Nagato and his animals as an example, at which point I'd just remind them that said animals are actually dead, and Nagato confirmed that his control was due to suppressing them with his own chakra, thanks to the rods from the Gedo Mazo summon:

    I don't see any rods in the picture of the Sage and 10 tails. The method the Sharingan uses to control beasts is genjutsu, which the Rinnegan hasn't been shown to have, so that's it. The eye seems to be the beast's own eye, and has nothing to do with the Sage. It's overlapping tomoe and rings. After Madara mentioned that the Uchiha are descendants of the Sage's elder son, I theorized that the Uchiha bloodline limit and chakra are from the 10 tails, instead of the Sage himself. The theory is that by having the beast's chakra inside himself for a certain amount of years, his genes are influenced by it, and some of the qualities and chakra were passed on to his children. Some examples [In a sense] of this can be Naruto, Killer Bee, and Gaara. Gaara still has control over sand after his beast was removed. While Bee and Naruto haven't had anything removed, Bee is able to produce ink, and Naruto has high stamina. I'd say those are from having the tailed beast's chakra influencing their genes in some way.
    If that's to believed, then it also explains why a body of Pain still had the Rinnegan in death. He had his chakra inside them so long that it changed their eyes, thus giving them real deal, if not something close.]

    After some generations, some of the beast's characteristics would later appear in the Uchiha clan. Any evidence of this relies soley on Sasuke and Madara Uchiha, though I admit certain aspects make them unique examples; I believe they're the closest Uchiha to the 10 tails. Before moving on, let's also remember that having such chakra caused the sage to be recognized as a god by humans.

    Now, according to Madara, the Uchiha were known for powerful chakra, and his was the strongest in it's day:

    Sasuke's chakra is also powerful:

    And that was just part one. Sasuke and Madara were noted by the 9 tailed fox--a piece of the 10 tails's chakra-- as having even more sinister chakra.

    There has to be a reason for that, and I think it's the 10 tails.


    Mangekyo Sharingan and the 10 tails

    Another part composed of parallells. The Mangekyo Sharingan has been shown doing things that can be considered very much godly. The chakra of the 10 tails is noted for it's malice and strength/quantiy. This has been seen in nearly every tailed beast and recently, Sasuke Uchiha. Sasuke has no tailed beast, yet he has something that can be called a tailed beast without a tail: Susanoo. The Sage was revered as a god for having such chakra. Susanoo on the other hand, is a materialization of it's user's chakra, and labeled as a god. Well imagine that. A guy absorbs the powerful chakra of a being, and he's called a god. A powerful technique, whose chakra seems to be from the same source, is called a god as well? The Mangekyo Sharingan jutsu are named after or relating to god[s]:

    Amaterasu: goddess of the sun
    Tsukuyomi:god of the moon
    Susanoo: god of sea and storms
    Kamui: "Might of the gods"
    Enton: Kagutsuchi: god of fire

    btw about the 10 tail appearance click here

    this theory has still have 2nd part and im very sleepy so see you.. tomorrow..
     
         

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    Re: Uchiha is the 10 tails in human form

    i think i have seen this somewhere before, though i dont really know what to say about it
     
         

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    Re: Uchiha is the 10 tails in human form

    Its sort of confusing. Either the sage had the rinnegan and then he absorbed the Jubi, or once he absorbed the jubi he had the rinnegan or the type of rinnegan the Jubi has. But if he got the rinnegan after, then how was he able to beat it and absorb it.
     
         

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    Re: Uchiha is the 10 tails in human form

    My question is how is Madara going to be the 10tails host he makes it seem as being a Jinchuuriki. Naruto has on half the kyuubi and he can't control it. The SO6P was wise and knew lots of thing even how to control a buji and had chakra the size of Nagato who had the biggest chakra supply ever and is not a Jinchuuriki. The 10tails has infinite chakra and should have almost infinite malice. Madara is powerful but I don't think that strong. The 10tails will latch on to his hate instantly and revive its self.
     
         

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    Re: Uchiha is the 10 tails in human form

    Quote Originally Posted by niblack89 View Post
    My question is how is Madara going to be the 10tails host he makes it seem as being a Jinchuuriki. Naruto has on half the kyuubi and he can't control it. The SO6P was wise and knew lots of thing even how to control a buji and had chakra the size of Nagato who had the biggest chakra supply ever and is not a Jinchuuriki. The 10tails has infinite chakra and should have almost infinite malice. Madara is powerful but I don't think that strong. The 10tails will latch on to his hate instantly and revive its self.
    my answer is here

    and try to read here

    and now the part 2

    Amaterasu can burn anything in the user's field of vision, is hot enough to resist rain, and can control the weather in the sense that it can artificially induce storm clouds.


    Tsukuyomi is a genjutsu that allows the user to control the victim's impression of space and time, captivating them for can seem like days in just a second. Susanoo summons what is effectively a tailed beast without a tail, which boasts great attacks and defense power. Kamui causes space to collapse and swallow objects. Madara has a jutsu that may have kept him alive, which may be his phasing jutsu or psuedo-Kamui jutsu. The Sharingan at it's orginal form can track movements, predict them, control animals, and even people. A recently unvealed Sharingan derived dojutsu called Izanagi, even allows someone to control their own reality, nullifying any damage they would receive in battle. If they were to be struck by a fatal attack, they'd live. Izanagi: Creator god of Japan

    Where are all these god-like powers coming from? My answer is again:


    It makes that much sense to me. If that doesn't seem convincing enough, Madara claims that absorbing the 10 tails's chakra will allow him to captivate everyone in a genjutsu. It just so happens that this genjutsu, is Mangekyo Sharingan based.




    God-like power. A Mangekyo Sharingan genjutsu and the chakra of the 10 tails will give Madara control over everyone, effectively making him a god, like the Sage before him. Even the normal Sharingan can manipulate people and creatures through genjutsu. Like I said, where is all this power coming from? Is it a big coincidence that a Mangekyo Sharingan genjutsu and a god-like creature go hand in hand with a man's plan to control everything? It's as if the 10 tails is some sort of fountain that holds the keys to existence. Strangely enough, the Rinnegan is claimed to be the tool of heaven [Likely because the Sage rescued the world from the 10 tails], and it's user claimed to be a god [Nagato]. Yet, the Sharingan is continually revealed to have jutsu named after gods with unbelievable power. The supposedly supreme dojutsu, somehow isn't the one with powers named after gods, or the one implied to be needed to control everyone. Moving on with Susanoo, it is noted for the defense it's body provides:

    The fox chakra on the other hand was known for it's defense as well:

    Both chakra are known for being sinister and seem to appear out of nowhere:
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    When shown initially, Sasuke's dark chakra even resembled Naruto's 4-6 tailed transformations:



    More coincidences? Karin said it was darker and colder than his cursed seal's second state. To me that speaks about it's power. Susanoo, when being summoned, evolves from bones, gains muscle tissue, skin, and then armor.



    The fox, was shown to undergo a similar evolution when summoned, going from bones:

    to muscle tissue:

    And then skin and fur [Presumably]. The same can be presumed for Killer Bee [Though his whole transformation wasn't shown] Very similar. So all that said, the Uchiha and their characteristics may have originated from the 10 tails than anywhere else. The Sharingan seems to be something that fits the 10 tail's status as a god-like creature and was given to humans by the Sage.
     
         

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