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    Monkey D. Dragon

    It's a bit far fetched theory but what if the is more to Monkey D. Dragon

    Here's my theory Dragon was a Supernova wondering the New world to become PIrate king.
    When he met a Noble women who wanted peace,equality and freedom in the world.
    She fell in love with the infamous pirate Dragon and then had a child luffy and thus she was executed by other World Government Nobles but dragon was the intime to save luffy.Dragon left infuriated he gave luffy to garp where he would be safe.Leaving his dream to become pirate king he embarked on a journey to challenge and defeat the World Goverment collecting new nakama on the way and keep hiis beloved wifes/girlfriend dream of a world with peace equality and freedom.

    Am a beginner so please be nice.
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    i think monkey d dragon was a honest hard working marine.but when he saw so much corruption in world govt.and in celestial dragon he decides 2 become a revolutionery.(just my idea)
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    I saw this idea before, but I don't think Luffy will be a Noble, it would kinda taint what his character is for, that anyone deserves to be free and rank doesn't matter. Him being a Noble would kinda suck and ruin any conflict that could have been from punching that Noble at Saboady(spelling).
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    or he could have been an ex-marine and was unhappy with how the celestial dragons get away with everything so he formed the revolutionary army which would make some sense as a revolutionary army is formed when the government is screwed up and the people are unhappy
     
         

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    I wish Oda would draw us a flashback between Garp and Dragon, 2 legends .
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    We will hopefully find out soon, anyways this is a nice speculation
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    ooo nice theory, and yea i wouldnt want Luffy to be associated with nobles
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    I think he was a Marine : his wife and Luffy's mother would be a Marine whom was executed for following her own rightful code of justice which differed from that of the Marines

    He could've been an admiral : if Oda likes to use mythology and folk lore etc.
    (like naming the admirals : if you haven't seen my theory you're missing out)
    Siddharta (Buddha) , Shenlong (Dragon) etc. Is it possible Dragon was a high ranking marine : even an admiral before hand?
     
         

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    I just think he saw something wrong wrong with the world and actually had the balls to do challenge the government, something that most would not.
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    Quote Originally Posted by rinnemaki View Post
    I think he was a Marine : his wife and Luffy's mother would be a Marine whom was executed for following her own rightful code of justice which differed from that of the Marines

    He could've been an admiral : if Oda likes to use mythology and folk lore etc.
    (like naming the admirals : if you haven't seen my theory you're missing out)
    Siddharta (Buddha) , Shenlong (Dragon) etc. Is it possible Dragon was a high ranking marine : even an admiral before hand?
    I like that theory but do you believe it's possible he was the commander in chief?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsims08 View Post
    I like that theory but do you believe it's possible he was the commander in chief?
    To be commander in chief he would have to be fleet admiral. When Roger was executed dragon was about 20ish so I HIGHLY doubt it.
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    Quote Originally Posted by rinnemaki View Post
    To be commander in chief he would have to be fleet admiral. When Roger was executed dragon was about 20ish so I HIGHLY doubt it.
    Oh true I didn't think about the ages. I just think it's almost too obvious for him to be an ex marine or a noble
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsims08 View Post
    Oh true I didn't think about the ages. I just think it's almost too obvious for him to be an ex marine or a noble
    Why would he be a Noble if Garp wasn't a Noble?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by rinnemaki View Post
    Why would he be a Noble if Garp wasn't a Noble?
    I didn't say he was. I was saying that everybody thinks he use to be highly admired, in the marines or something along those lines. If dragon was a marine then garp would've mentioned that during marine ford I believe or somebody would have
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsims08 View Post
    I didn't say he was. I was saying that everybody thinks he use to be highly admired, in the marines or something along those lines. If dragon was a marine then garp would've mentioned that during marine ford I believe or somebody would have
    They don't have to mention anything. Nobody mentioned Big Mam : yet she was a Yonkou and still is. Your point is?
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    Quote Originally Posted by rinnemaki View Post
    They don't have to mention anything. Nobody mentioned Big Mam : yet she was a Yonkou and still is. Your point is?
    Sengoku was complaining about garps family and the trouble they've caused so you'd think he would talk about dragon leaving the marines to be the revolution leader. Garp was talking to ace and Luffy about how he wanted them to be marines but why not say to Luffy why not be a marine like me and your dad. Everybody knows dragon to be the revolution leader but nobody mentions his old life and people would've known him as a marine too
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsims08 View Post
    Sengoku was complaining about garps family and the trouble they've caused so you'd think he would talk about dragon leaving the marines to be the revolution leader. Garp was talking to ace and Luffy about how he wanted them to be marines but why not say to Luffy why not be a marine like me and your dad. Everybody knows dragon to be the revolution leader but nobody mentions his old life and people would've known him as a marine too
    I think Dragon was a Marine VA before his fiancee/wife (luffy's mother) was killed by Marines. Dragon is causing trouble by directly opposing the government : wasn't that obvious? There's no deeper meaning.
    Nobody mentions the old life of Garp. Everyone knows he was the devil to pirates.
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    That's quite a bold theory. But I like it.
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    I'm still holding on to the idea that Dragon isn't as heroic as he seems.....
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    Quote Originally Posted by rinnemaki View Post
    I think he was a Marine : his wife and Luffy's mother would be a Marine whom was executed for following her own rightful code of justice which differed from that of the Marines

    He could've been an admiral : if Oda likes to use mythology and folk lore etc.
    (like naming the admirals : if you haven't seen my theory you're missing out)
    Siddharta (Buddha) , Shenlong (Dragon) etc. Is it possible Dragon was a high ranking marine : even an admiral before hand?
    Amazing find! The widows peak matches perfectly! this really makes Dragon being a former Marine just that more plausible.
     
         

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    Re: Monkey D. Dragon

    For starters the '11 'supernovas' was a specific title for the 100m+ bounties of Luffy's generation, it's not something they use on a regular basis, still I get what you are trying to say.

    That he was an infamous pirate you can probably scratch too because as I recall they said in the manga that Dragon came out of the blue challenging the WG. If he really had been a notorious pirate before that, people would have known about him and it's highly unlikely he was a small pirate captain. So you can probably scratch that his noble woman was executed as why the hell would they do that? At best they would want to execute the child and him, why would they execute the noble woman? And that is in the very unlikely case he was a notorious pirate, but even then it's very doubtful as Roger was the most heinous pirate in existence for the WG, so every last trace of his blood should be eradicated, but do you think that they are executing people on a regular basis because they are related to pirates? For them to do that Dragon should have been in WB's class and then him turning on the WG wouldn't have been something that comes out of the blue, so that doesn't make any sense.

    So assuming he was a pirate, they would have just ditched the kid somewhere, trying to deny its existence because it would be shameful for the woman's family.

    With other words, following the flow of the manga, Dragon was never a pirate. It is far more likely that he was a marine. Considering Garp pushed both Ace and Luffy in becoming marines, it would be no more than logical he did the same with his son. Luffy got influenced by Shanks, but it's doubtful that Dragon too had someone pirate like Shanks coming around, so he had no real reason to not become a marine. Also marines become famous far more difficult than pirates considering they get into the newspapers continuously due to their crimes, but logically that does not apply to marines. So it's much easier to remain unknown to the broad public as a marine than as a pirate. Not to mention it's difficult for the marines to say to the public that the worst criminal in the world was originally a former marine and the son of a marine hero. Dragon might also intentionally never said anything about his father to avoid being seen as 'the son of a hero'. Finally Dragon's sense of justice resembles that of Garp far more than that of Luffy. Luffy just wants to fulfill his dream and hates to be considered a hero. He does the good thing when it crosses his path, but outside that he doesn't really care. Dragon really has a greater purpose and a wider perspective.

    No doubt there was a specific moment in Dragon's life, some kind of realization, event or revelation that made him go against the WG. That might be connected to Luffy's mother, that might not be connected to her and if it was, it could have been countless of scenarios.
     
         

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