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    Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    I got a bit confusd, after reading the battle Oro vs 3rd

    Oro uses Edo, to summon 3 coffines:
    1. 1st hokage
    2. 2nd hokage
    3. got ownd by shuriken

    3rd hokage uses the sealing method that sealed the kyubi in exchange for the life of the 4th hokage.

    From what what was writen, the souls taken / sealed with this jutsu are to fight for ever inside or something. Also, from what i understand, you CANT summon someone who was/used this jutsu ( look fo topics bout kabutomaru and edo - most ppl on the www say that the 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 hokage cant be summoned due to edo. )

    Now for the question, if the 4rd cant be summoned by kabutomaru with edo, the who was in the 3rd coffin in the fight oro vs 3rd hokage ?

    Am i wrong bout something or is it just a flaw from the author of naaruto ?
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    In the manga they never showed who was in the last coffin, and i don't think who was in it, but i don't think it was the 4th
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Then the question is who was worth to be summoned nex t the 1st and 2nd hokage
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    It could've been the 3rd's wife.
    Orochimaru's secondary goal in using that technique was to inflict psychological damage as well as physical damage.
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    was this post made in relation to my comment on that other post? i believe it was the fourth who was summoned against the 3rd
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    if it was kushina then how would she do dmg to the 3rd ?

    No i was something that just got to me today when reading :P
    If it was the 4th, then was i wrong ? ( 1st post)
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Quote Originally Posted by MisticDrone View Post
    if it was kushina then how would she do dmg to the 3rd ?

    No i was something that just got to me today when reading :P
    If it was the 4th, then was i wrong ? ( 1st post)
    That would just be evil!:mad: Kushina in the last coffin.:mad:
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    That woulda been mean if it was Sarus wife, I always thought it was the 4th oh well
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Kushina Uzumaki is the wife of the 4th hokage @_@ not Sarutobis ^^
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    I would still think it is the 4th even though he used the Death Reaper sealing tech. It is like the only one that would make sense and the flash tech which would really make sure he wanted to stop it. Btw it wasn't stopped with shuriken it was stopped by him weaving a few signs. Oro used the summons as a shield from the shadow shuriken tech
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    so what, Kishi just mesed up and it just a plot hole ?
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    The one in the 3rd casket was The Fourth Hokage, The 3rd Hokage stop it for a lot's of reson manly He did not whant Naruto to see it and have the 4th Hokage be force to release the Nine Tail Fox on the Village by Orochimaru.
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Quote Originally Posted by Honord Sage View Post
    The one in the 3rd casket was The Fourth Hokage, The 3rd Hokage stop it for a lot's of reson manly He did not whant Naruto to see it and have the 4th Hokage be force to release the Nine Tail Fox on the Village by Orochimaru.
    Again, where is my mistake in the first post then ?
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    He was refering to the thirds wife not the fourths.. and im pretty sure you got the idea from my post.. but whatever.. i still believe it was the fourth in that coffin... just not sure how it works out when his soul/existence is inside of naruto...
     
         
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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Quote Originally Posted by NipponIchi View Post
    He was refering to the thirds wife not the fourths.. and im pretty sure you got the idea from my post.. but whatever.. i still believe it was the fourth in that coffin... just not sure how it works out when his soul/existence is inside of naruto...

    1st. its MisticDrone, not sponge bob ok ?
    2nd. Just becouse i made a mistake does not meake me an idiot, it does meake you an immature kid who thinks he can act as an gangsta on teh interwebz, well sorry to breake it to you, you failed at being cool.

    As for the 3rds wife, i dont really se it working on him, he was able to fight his former sensei, so why not his wife.




    Oh and i hate to breake your litle buble, but i didint even know what post you ware talking bout, after the 1st time you asked in this topic, so sorry, but you are not the center of the universe :*
    So stop asking bout it ok ?
     
         
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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    maybe its the same person that kabutomaru summoned
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Its a posibility, yes, but:
    1. the 1st and the 2nd coffin, sarutobi knew who was in it before the coffin was open ( the signs on them ware 2 ( as in 2nd hokage ? ) and another that i dont know ... or am i wrong ). Sarutobi, was also aware of who was in the 3rd coffin, or it seems so, from what he was thinking.

    So if it was the same person as in kabutomarus pokemon club, the question would be, who would shock madara, and be known to the 3rd hokage ?
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Quote Originally Posted by NipponIchi View Post
    Whats coolnes sponge bob? please explain =[ kuso gaki yaro
    Stop making off topic there, or else i'll call a mod.

    @Topic i guess you're right, but i don't think Kishi thought about it so much those times, so it could just be a plot hole.
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Boy, there is no discussion.. Damn, it might have been any other, who cares if it was Minato. You just got messed up because of the newest release of Impure World Reincarnation.. who knows? it's already and lately been discused it might even be Madar himself, or at least his body. Gud nait!
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Quote Originally Posted by veggetta13 View Post
    Boy, there is no discussion.. Damn, it might have been any other, who cares if it was Minato. You just got messed up because of the newest release of Impure World Reincarnation.. who knows? it's already and lately been discused it might even be Madar himself, or at least his body. Gud nait!
    Well i care, becouse its the small things that meake a book/movie/comic fun to read, its all bout the details ^^

    As for kabutomarus edo i have no problem with it, it just bout the edo from oro vs 3rd

    But it got me thiking, what if:
    (possible spoiler)
    the 4th hokage didint die from the seal he did on the kyubi ( i taged it as an spoiler becouse there was this exact info in one of the topics here, marked as spoilers ;P )


    if it was true, then everything would fit. (well almost, there would be the question bout the death of the 3rd hokage. Then again, Kakashi said in the manga, that not much is known bout the seal the 4th used ( chepter short after pain fight )


    Oh and Nippon i dont know jp. language, but i can use goole, so yeah i diud report you ;*
     
         
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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    sry i gotta agree with Mistic here cant you just drop it and stop acting imature ?
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Not much is known cause it's not like you can practice it. You use it, you're dead afterwards. Hardly any second chances unless you know the fine print of it ( Minato ).
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Quote Originally Posted by NipponIchi View Post
    lol alright ill stop but what are you a boy scout ? im so scared of a mod banning me? how is it off topic when i was discussing this in another thread and saying it here? need to chill just cause you all dont know japanese and cant read what im writing gaijins

    Anyways, OP, here's what I think:

    First of all, the shuriken didn't stop the 4th coffin, they were blocked by 1st and 2nd. Sarutobi then used some seals because he recognized the tech (being the Professor and the God of Shinobi and all) and he knew a counter. No where did it show that the 3rd coffin was Yondai Hokage. Sarutobi never got a look into the coffin. He just didn't want the battle to become 4 on 1. Orochimaru on his own was enough of a challenge already. Perhaps it was Yondai Kazekage (Gaara's father), who Orochimaru had just recently killed.

    One thing I don't understand is how Minato used Shiki Fujin to split Kyuubi into yin and yang and then sealed one in Naruto and one in the toad scroll. What did the Shinigami take then when he took Minato's soul? Odd...
     
         
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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Why did this thread suddenly die?
     
         

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    Re: Edo tensei and the 4th hokage

    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzard589 View Post


    Anyways, OP, here's what I think:

    First of all, the shuriken didn't stop the 4th coffin, they were blocked by 1st and 2nd. Sarutobi then used some seals because he recognized the tech (being the Professor and the God of Shinobi and all) and he knew a counter. No where did it show that the 3rd coffin was Yondai Hokage. Sarutobi never got a look into the coffin. He just didn't want the battle to become 4 on 1. Orochimaru on his own was enough of a challenge already. Perhaps it was Yondai Kazekage (Gaara's father), who Orochimaru had just recently killed.

    One thing I don't understand is how Minato used Shiki Fujin to split Kyuubi into yin and yang and then sealed one in Naruto and one in the toad scroll. What did the Shinigami take then when he took Minato's soul? Odd...
    thats is not particular true. Hiruzen knew that Oro. was summoning the 1st and 2nd hokage due to the fact that there names were on the coffin. he figured that the 4th would the last one so he stopped it due the fact that he didnt want to fight him or for that matter the 1st or the 2nd and he said he didnt want to them. Now as for Oro. he could kick his azz easily and he should've. On top of that he should've kilt his crasy azz when they discovered he was experimenting on ppl during the 3rd ninja WW. And the thing about yin and yang im with you on that i dnt know bout. but im guessing that little frog dude in naruto might explain it if naruto lives through his fight with sasuke or not since its really irrelavent to the story line
     
         
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