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    [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    The thread is on different sections (NoShÎt).

    Today's topic: Shisui's Eye

    As we know, KotoAmatsukami is so strong, even Obito and Kabuto got mad when they were destroyed. And this ocular jutsu belonged to Shisui Uchiha - the man with the strongest Genjutsu in NV and was called ''Shisui of Shunshin''.


    Even though, this jutsu was almost unstoppable - why was it stopped by Danzo?

    Because he did not wish to use it.

    As you remember, the eye could not have been used but once a decade. Itachi explained to Naruto, when breaking the contract of Edo Tensei control.

    After he fought Danzo, he had explained to Itachi that he was trying to manipulate his clan to stop the Coup D'etat - which was against Danzo's wishes.


    Why had he not used KA against Danzo?

    Then it would take a decade to activate again. If he would change the mind of Danzo, what advantage would it give to him? Nothing. He had to either beat Danzo without KA, or spare his own life and give it away.

    Even with Hashirama's cells, that drastically reduce the time of release, could only make it for once a day. That means, Shisui could not have been spamming it. Besides, he was the ''Shunshin Shisui''. Can you attack fast enemies, if you are half-blind? Even Sasuke did not manage.

    Next thing: He was apparently not weak.

    As we remember, Danzo and Hanzo had an army of black ops against Nagato, Yahiko and Konan. It could be that he used the same method against Shisui.


    Conclusion: Shisui apparently did not wish to use the KA, because if he had used it on Danzo, his plans would've been ruined. He had only two options:

    - To beat Danzo, and most likely his black ops squad
    - To sacrifice willingly his eye

    And he most likely, after a long fight, chose the second one. The reason Danzo id not wish for this, because he considered Uchiha as a threat. To Danzo, all threats must be eliminated.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Great theory.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Hmm... I'm not sure. What you are proposing is logical and plausible, but changing the entire clans mind would have averted the entire ordeal regarding the coup. It was against Danzo's wishes (for some reason), but I would be inclined to believe that he proposed it to Danzo first, and Danzo violently disagreed, so to stop the possibility of it happening, Danzo ambushed Shisui so he couldn't use KA on his clan and avert the coup.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Danzo soloed the weak ass fodder.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Quote Originally Posted by SanjiNL View Post
    Great theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transcendence View Post
    Hmm... I'm not sure. What you are proposing is logical and plausible, but changing the entire clans mind would have averted the entire ordeal regarding the coup. It was against Danzo's wishes (for some reason), but I would be inclined to believe that he proposed it to Danzo first, and Danzo violently disagreed, so to stop the possibility of it happening, Danzo ambushed Shisui so he couldn't use KA on his clan and avert the coup.
    I'm not so sure of your point. It's a bit unclear.

    My theory was about proving that Shisui did not wish to use KA. Are you saying he could not use it on an entire clan?
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    KA didnt ruin the eye or have any notable drawbacks besides the cool down.
    But good thread, I like Shisui :]
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaNagashi View Post
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    I'm not so sure of your point. It's a bit unclear.

    My theory was about proving that Shisui did not wish to use KA. Are you saying he could not use it on an entire clan?
    What Transcendance was trying to say is that Shisui wanted to use KA to prevent any bloodshed, and brought his idea to Danzo. Danzo wanted to see the Uchiha clan die so he refused and tried to kill Shisui to prevent him from using KA.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Nice theory but he couldn't use it on the clan......because it would need.....a moon size plan
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Quote Originally Posted by CurseSealofEarth View Post
    What Transcendance was trying to say is that Shisui wanted to use KA to prevent any bloodshed, and brought his idea to Danzo. Danzo wanted to see the Uchiha clan die so he refused and tried to kill Shisui to prevent him from using KA.
    Exactly. Maybe not my original point; but the main point.

    Even though, I believe Shisui did not wish to use KA, since it needed to cool down.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    nice theory
    there are not enough info to discuss on that matter
    good job
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaNagashi View Post
    Exactly. Maybe not my original point; but the main point.

    Even though, I believe Shisui did not wish to use KA, since it needed to cool down.
    CurseSeal explained my point. But, I don't believe Shisui would care for the cool down at all. It seems that Itachi inherited his ideologies from Shisui, and we now Itachi did what he did for the village. IMO, Shisui would have used KA on his clan to prevent the bloodshed in one way or another.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Quote Originally Posted by Transcendence View Post
    CurseSeal explained my point. But, I don't believe Shisui would care for the cool down at all. It seems that Itachi inherited his ideologies from Shisui, and we now Itachi did what he did for the village. IMO, Shisui would have used KA on his clan to prevent the bloodshed in one way or another.
    Sure, it's logical. An ambush like to Nagao and Yahiko?

    My main point, was to kill the fallacies going on about Danzo with no Sharingan > Shisui.

    But the cool down was one of the many options. I just took the one that looked to me the best.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    Awesome theory,Shisui really needs some spotlight around here.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] How/Why Danzo Obtained Shisui's Eye

    one thing is going through my head that is fugaku was the mastermind behind the Coup defeat. Shishui used KA on Fugaku but didnt work out. That is why shishui entrusted his eyes to itachi.

    Regarding danzo - His methods might be rude but he really loved his village
     
         

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