Re: Tsukiyomi vs all bijuu users
Actually they can break out, as they said, their minds are connected so would be in the same time effect as the Jin. You said Hachibi wasn't under the same time as Bee? Bee was in normal time, he snapped Bee out as Itachi was throwing Shurikens at him which shows how fast it was. The fact is, Itachi's and the victim's consciousness are connected in the Tsukuyomi but since the Bijuu and Jin are already connected, they can interfere. Remember when Sasuke entered Naruto's consciousness and was talking to Naruto and Kurama? It would be the same thing.
Originally Posted by Helikido
Also The Bijuus can call their Jin. without them knowing. They pulled Naruto down to where Jin. 2,3,5,6,7 were all talking to Naruto and they said it's somewhere were Obito can't enter. This was after Naruto and kurama became fully synched. Also If Naruto wasn't getting helped by Kurama, he can just go into KM (if in go out then in) and that would disrupt Itachi's chakra and break the genjutsu. Bee can do this by going Version 1 or 2 as well.
As for the 4th Mizukage, no one knows how he was controlled but it is a fact that Obito is stronger at using genjutsus than Itachi so you can't compare them. Itachi said you need the MS to control Kurama, Madara and Obito (who was trained by Madara) both were able to control Kurama using only their 3 tomoes which means their 3 tomoes genjutsu is on MS level so their MS genjutsu are even stronger. Sasuke used his MS genjutsus on people because it's stronger, why would he use his MS/EMS genjutsu if just awaking the MS gives you the power to use genjutsu to control Kurama? That makes no sense but Madara mastered the sharingan far beyond anyone and taught Obito how to as well.