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    Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    I started thinking what if nagato and guy faced off and if guy even stood a chance but I just realized, couldn't guy easily hit nagato with hirudora. I mean even when nagato is healthy he still lacks mobility so I don't think he'd be able to dodge it, and guy can use his speed or summon the turtle if nagato decides to fly, plus hirudora is taijutsu so preta path is a non factor. So what do you guys think, if guy and nagato face off wouldn't guy have a good chance of hitting him with the hirudora thus injuring him?
     
         
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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Couldn't he just blow it away with Shinra Tensei?
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    Couldn't he just blow it away with Shinra Tensei?
    Do you know how fast hirudora is?
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by kyubbi sagemode View Post
    Do you know how fast hirudora is?
    Do you know how fast Shinra Tensei is?
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    I think 7 gates might pull it off very high dif
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by Bijuu Bomber View Post
    Do you know how fast Shinra Tensei is?
    Not faster than hirudora
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by kyubbi sagemode View Post
    Do you know how fast hirudora is?
    We're talking about a sensor who can tell when someone is building up chakra for a normally quick attack. I don't see Nagato having trouble pulling off ST, especially when he can use the technique pretty quickly himself.
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    We're talking about a sensor who can tell when someone is building up chakra for a normally quick attack. I don't see Nagato having trouble pulling off ST, especially when he can use the technique pretty quickly himself.
    Hirudora even managed to take madara by surprise I'm sure it can take nagato too
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    I think Hirudora alone wouldn't be enough, because what the guy above said is true. Nagato was able to sense someone build up chakra. So he'd be prepared as soon as Guy started gathering chakra for Hirudora.

    Now, if Guy used the 7th gate AND Hirudora, that might be a different story. Nagato would blow the first Hirudora away with Shinra Tensei, but that leaves Guy 5 seconds to do as he pleases. And 5 seconds to someone with the 7th gate unlocked is all he would need for, at the very least, a devastating blow. So Guy might stand a chance there.
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by kyubbi sagemode View Post
    Not faster than hirudora
    Nagato has sensory feats, I'm sure he can really anticipate when he'd use it and try to counter it. Shinra Tensei is fast, not as fast mind you, but with Nagato's sensory as well I think it'd work out.
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by kyubbi sagemode View Post
    Hirudora even managed to take madara by surprise I'm sure it can take nagato too
    But Madara is not a sensor so this isn't a fair assumption. Especially since Nagato has been shown that he can sense the build up, there's no way it should take Nagato by surprise.
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by Cfighter View Post
    I think Hirudora alone wouldn't be enough, because what the guy above said is true. Nagato was able to sense someone build up chakra. So he'd be prepared as soon as Guy started gathering chakra for Hirudora.

    Now, if Guy used the 7th gate AND Hirudora, that might be a different story. Nagato would blow the first Hirudora away with Shinra Tensei, but that leaves Guy 5 seconds to do as he pleases. And 5 seconds to someone with the 7th gate unlocked is all he would need for, at the very least, a devastating blow. So Guy might stand a chance there.
    Hirudora isn't a chakra based attack. and doesn't guy need to open the sevent gate to use hirudora
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    But Madara is not a sensor so this isn't a fair assumption. Especially since Nagato has been shown that he can sense the build up, there's no way it should take Nagato by surprise.
    Hirudora doesn't utilize chakra, what would nagato sense?
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by kyubbi sagemode View Post
    Hirudora doesn't utilize chakra, what would nagato sense?
    He would sense Gai opening the 7th Gate. I'm pretty sure Gai temporarily opened the gate before using Hirudora against Madara, hence the glowing hands making the hand signs prior to it being used.
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    He could just roundhouse kick that mofo in the chin. Problem solved.
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    it does utilize chakra all movement uses chakra is basically energy you just have to mold it to do a jutsu, and are you forgetting that nagato can just chibaku tensie him? and he can just summon the dog creature and guy cant do any thing to it, he can also make him self into a robot so he can take the brunt of guys blows
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    He would sense Gai opening the 7th Gate. I'm pretty sure Gai temporarily opened the gate before using Hirudora against Madara, hence the glowing hands making the hand signs prior to it being used.
    Yeah it's debatable whether he opened the seventh gate or not
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Wouldn't Nagato automatically be on guard if he saw someone open 7 gates? I'm sure he knows of the gates powers, so I'm certain her would have a defense ready at all times, probably Shinra Tensei.
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by kyubbi sagemode View Post
    Yeah it's debatable whether he opened the seventh gate or not
    Maybe so. But either way, his hands had some kind of build up with chakra, he uses chakra to create that super high speed punch, Hirudora is formed by the speed of that punch. So yeah, Nagato would definitely sense something going down before Gai pulls Hirudora off.
     
         
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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    Maybe so. But either way, his hands had some kind of build up with chakra, he uses chakra to create that super high speed punch, Hirudora is formed by the speed of that punch. So yeah, Nagato would definitely sense something going down before Gai pulls Hirudora off.
    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteMangekyou View Post
    Wouldn't Nagato automatically be on guard if he saw someone open 7 gates? I'm sure he knows of the gates powers, so I'm certain her would have a defense ready at all times, probably Shinra Tensei.
    But if nagato does manage to block hirudora with shinre tensei wouldn't that give guy five seconds to attack nagato?
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Noupe,he can't touch Nagato.
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by kyubbi sagemode View Post
    But if nagato does manage to block hirudora with shinre tensei wouldn't that give guy five seconds to attack nagato?
    What can he do against someone who can rip their soul oit or drain their chakra upon the touch? t
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by Helikido View Post
    What can he do against someone who can rip their soul oit or drain their chakra upon the touch? t
    Nagato won't be able to attack for five seconds, remember that's how sm naruto defeated pain
     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Honestly all NAgato would have to do is pull Gai towards him with Deva Path when he sense him building up then = Asura Path cannon + Naraka Path = GG

     
         

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    Re: Couldn't might guy hit nagato with hirudora

    Quote Originally Posted by kyubbi sagemode View Post
    Hirudora even managed to take madara by surprise I'm sure it can take nagato too
    youre underestimating a jutsu that took out konoha.
     
         

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