[Discussion] Orochimaru(full power) vs sasuke (Before he killed itachi)

[Gin-Sama]

i got an idea from this thread http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...l-power-2.html

that time when sasuke killed Orochimaru. Orochimaru is very weak already so...
what if that time Orochimaru got his full power?

and why or how Orochimaru expect that sasuke to be his new body?
its means he got a power to defeat sasuke? or sasuke think that he cant defeat orochimaru if he got his full powers... so he killed it while Orochimaru is at weak state.

what ever hope you understand what i mean...

please discuss

[Honord Sage]

The main reason Sasuke kill Orochimaru is that the time was right for Sasuke to win. Orochimaru at full strength would have been too much for Sasuke, But a weak Orochimaru was what Sasuke needed to be on the road to fully develop His Eye teach.

[Gin-Sama]

The main reason Sasuke kill Orochimaru is that the time was right for Sasuke to win. Orochimaru at full strength would have been too much for Sasuke, But a weak Orochimaru was what Sasuke needed to be on the road to fully develop His Eye teach.

but sasuke he killed Deidara that time his eye tech. not yet develop not like recently..

i think sasuke still win but very hard for him...

[Shuusai]

Orochimaru Gonna die.

[Wamphyri]

Are you nuts?

A weakened Orochimaru played with a 4 tailed Naruto for a while .... A full powered Orochimaru eleminated the third Hokage and would not even have been scratched without the reaper seal ...


A weakened Oro took on Jiraya (drugged) and Tsunade(shocked) but still ... He took a nice beating from Tsunade and smiled through it..

You really think a ninja on perhaps junin level could stand against him?
at that time Sasuke had nothing but chidori a few fire techs and a cursed seal

[Madness4o]

Yes i get what your point is.
I think sasuke would be dead if orochimaro wasn't sick.
But didn't you notice that when sasuke fought his brother orochimaro was in sasuke and itachis technique swallowed him.
I think Itachi had a better chance of killing orochimaro (when he is not sick) than sasuke.
Itachi was also sick because of the sharingan he was blind (not fully) but he didnt want to kill sasuke he gave him little powers from hes own to prevent Tobys (madara) stuff (xD).

[Madness4o]

but sasuke he killed Deidara that time his eye tech. not yet develop not like recently..

i think sasuke still win but very hard for him...

are you nuts Ginta Toramizu Deidara was not killed by sasuke's sharingan he did the most destructive tech and killed himself whit it watch the episode sa vs deidara again and you will see that he open the third mouth near his chest and turn invisible (last words : Art is a blast KAtsu!).

[Amat3ra5u]

nah i dont see sasuke before itachis gift beet a unsick orochimaru..
like someone said sasuke only had chidori, somefire techs and his cursed seal..
plus a crap sharingan that had low genjutsu power...and im pretty sure that orochimaru is wind elemented...so that nulifies most of sasukes techs..and i think orochimaru can somehow mess around with sasukes cursed seal mark..so that leaves his sharingan and some fire moves.
but the sasuke with mangekyou, would probably own a full powered orochimaru any day anywhere.

[Gin-Sama]

Are you nuts?

A weakened Orochimaru played with a 4 tailed Naruto for a while .... A full powered Orochimaru eleminated the third Hokage and would not even have been scratched without the reaper seal ...


A weakened Oro took on Jiraya (drugged) and Tsunade(shocked) but still ... He took a nice beating from Tsunade and smiled through it..

You really think a ninja on perhaps junin level could stand against him?
at that time Sasuke had nothing but chidori a few fire techs and a cursed seal

i just though since sasuke student under orochimaru and we see some of oro tech. use by sasuke before he develop his eye tech..

my point is maybe all tech. of oro had pass to sasuke?

[Gin-Sama]

are you nuts Ginta Toramizu Deidara was not killed by sasuke's sharingan he did the most destructive tech and killed himself whit it watch the episode sa vs deidara again and you will see that he open the third mouth near his chest and turn invisible (last words : Art is a blast KAtsu!).

i know your funs of deidara me too.. i love his art

but still he lost and he even dont know what happen after the blast

[StealthShinobi]

oro vs sasuke without MS = oro's win
proof: sasuke admitted it after his fight with diedara

[David]

I think Oro would die. When sasuke killed orochimaru he was weak and did it really quick, If they were both at full power, except for the itachi thing, then sasuke would still win. It wouldnt be as quick or easy as he did the first time, but he would still win. Even though all sasuke does now is use his sharigan, he still is really good and smart. When he fought diedara he had to figure out a lot of things before he could fight him like when he used his sword to see if the bomb would explode if he hit it with lightning.

[Orochimaru the Snake]

I think Oro would die. When sasuke killed orochimaru he was weak and did it really quick, If they were both at full power, except for the itachi thing, then sasuke would still win. It wouldnt be as quick or easy as he did the first time, but he would still win. Even though all sasuke does now is use his sharigan, he still is really good and smart. When he fought diedara he had to figure out a lot of things before he could fight him like when he used his sword to see if the bomb would explode if he hit it with lightning.

how Orochimaru is smarter then him and could have killed sasuke in his weakened state the second he stuned sasuke with his posion he could have just bit his head off instead of taking over his body and he would have taken over the body too if he had not looked at sasuke's eyes

Oro would win this easily

[Steinbiz]

well sasuke WITH orochimaru's powers would obviously beat orochimaru himself. but the sasuke during the 2nd shippuden arc vs a full powered orochimaru, orochimaru would win for sure.

[Dabz]

I think Oro would die. When sasuke killed orochimaru he was weak and did it really quick, If they were both at full power, except for the itachi thing, then sasuke would still win. It wouldnt be as quick or easy as he did the first time, but he would still win. Even though all sasuke does now is use his sharigan, he still is really good and smart. When he fought diedara he had to figure out a lot of things before he could fight him like when he used his sword to see if the bomb would explode if he hit it with lightning.

are u retarded? oro and deidera are not in the same league, hes one of the SANNIN!! oro would kill sasuke easily if he was at full health, lets be honest and stop being fanboys!
he toyed around with 4tailed naruto and only stopped messing around after the body he was using expired. he killed the bloody third hokage!, are u saying that sasuke can could kill the third? wow people need to think before they post.

anyway rant over peace!

[Honord Sage]

The reason Orochimaru was weak is because the nine tail exhausted all of Orochimaru reserves.

[Revan]

i cant say for sure, but anything oro showed apart from his defensive techs till now was just weak, he cant beat sasuke just with summonings, shooting snakes out of his arms and def-techs.

[db3st]

i like sasuke, but to be real. i think this one has to go to orochimaru..but if it was sasuke after the itachi fight. then sasuke would wipe the floor wid orochimaru..

[Revan]

i like sasuke, but to be real. i think this one has to go to orochimaru..but if it was sasuke after the itachi fight. then sasuke would wipe the floor wid orochimaru..

i try to. but to be honest, i'm quite disappointed with what oro showed so far, apart from edo tensei he was just able to stall. i dont say that oro cant beat sasuke, he has to have any offensive technique and cant be hyped just for nothing, but snakes are simply weak.

[~Rerrando~]

truthfully does it matter Sasuke killed Oro. after Oro. got his arms back.

[Orochimaru the Snake]

i try to. but to be honest, i'm quite disappointed with what oro showed so far, apart from edo tensei he was just able to stall. i dont say that oro cant beat sasuke, he has to have any offensive technique and cant be hyped just for nothing, but snakes are simply weak.

he has more jutsu then what he showed he has always played around with his enemys he has way more jutsu then any else in the series

[niblack89]

not even a match oro won. Deidara wouldn't even be a match against Oro. Sasuke even admitted that he had to wait for him to be weakened. He would need MS to even be on the same league as Oro.

[Astral]

Not a chance orochimaru would win... as its been said thousands of times.. no jutsu can work on the sharingan, thats why orochimaru wants it

[tyran]

i cant see sasuke winning that match no matter how hard i try

[jovardo]

i cant see sasuke winning that match no matter how hard i try

yow..ASS WIPE..saskue said to sugetus or what him name that"orochimaru been sick just made the fight EASIER,and if he wasnt i would have killed him anyways'. which means that without a doubt saskue would still kill orochimaru it was just easier because orochimaru was sick.watch that episode again for your memory is vague.