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    Izanami does require physical contact

    the way itachi explained it, you take a snapshot of a physical ACTION, yours and the opponents. but if it didnt need contact why wouldnt itachi just take a snapshot of the amount of time kabuto and him spent standing around blathering and talking? cant the loop be that? just them standing around talking about identities and spying and mistakes? if so itachi wasted precious time and resources and made things ten times harder than it ever needed to be.
    by getting stabbed twice, and making that the loop, that confirmed that physical clashing is necessary. FIGHTING is necessary. it was created to stop two or more izanagi users thus making the loop nothing but standing around wouldnt force them to accept the truth that you shouldnt argue over what to alter.

    thats if thats the requirement. if taking a hit really is the requirement, this matches itachis statement of "everything has a weak aspect" and "izanami shouldnt be used in a real battle if it has an escape".
    but theres also the fact that itachi had to wait to be stabbed again and when he did his eye went blind. so until the second stab, the loop isnt closed and thus everything happening is really real. otherwise kabuto would have been endlessly stabbing itachi since chapter 581 and we wouldnt have seen the sound 4.

    kabuto would have won if he just kept his distance and spammed hakugeki.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    The manga hasn't said this... Besides, no point in complaining. Izanami was the perfect tech to deal with Kabuto. Itachi got the job done.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Quote Originally Posted by -Sky- View Post
    The manga hasn't said this... Besides, no point in complaining. Izanami was the perfect tech to deal with Kabuto. Itachi got the job done.
    This exactly.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Quote Originally Posted by -Sky- View Post
    The manga hasn't said this... Besides, no point in complaining. Izanami was the perfect tech to deal with Kabuto. Itachi got the job done.
    Basically... This.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Where is it said it need physical contact? lol. Trunks is on dumb spree.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    I think he is correct. Iirc it does indeed need physical contact....I could be wrong though. I remember reading it somewhere.....
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Quote Originally Posted by satellizer el bridget View Post
    Where is it said it need physical contact? lol. Trunks is on dumb spree.
    You don't know his process? He looks around NB to see what things he already knows is true and knows we know it's true, but don't really talk about. He then looks in the manga for where it was said and makes a thread saying it like people were having misconceptions, and that way, he looks like he's making great, smart threads.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Quote Originally Posted by -Sky- View Post
    The manga hasn't said this... Besides, no point in complaining. Izanami was the perfect tech to deal with Kabuto. Itachi got the job done.
    This....itachi handled his ass so it really doesnt mayter at this point
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    well Izanami was described as a genjutsu that "plays on the senses" rather than Eye Contact.. in this case there was the sensation of "touch" when the water first dropped on him.. and I think the genjutsu started right when Itachi first got stabbed--don't quote me on that cuz I only read that fight once and I don't remember the exact details--but if that's where it started, then that's why it happen over and over. so I don't think it Necessarily requires "fighting," but it requires some sort of sense of touch to do it, but that doesn't necessarily mean fighting. again, i'd have to go re-read to be sure but based on immediate memory, I think that's how it goes down. I think the "loop" consists of water dropping on Kabuto's shoulder, Itachi getting stabbed, and Itachi chopping off Kabuto's hor--but not necessarily that order, it could have started when Itachi got stabbed, then cut off Kabuto's horn, then the water dropped on him but I am pretty sure the "loop" has those 3 things happing over and over. again, doesn't Necessarily mean "fighting" is required, but it does require some manipulation of the senses (apparently not counting visual senses and I think touch is most convenient cuz how could Itachi introduce some new smell, or taste, and with the "blinders" on kabuto's eyes visual things are irrelevant, either that or it doesn't work with visual stimuli anyway) so the sensation of "feeling" something, or of Kabuto "touching" something seems to be more accurate.

    again, I only read once and COULD be wrong, that's just what I remember off hand.
     
         
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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    itachi handled his ass so it really doesnt mayter at this point
    edo itachi and ems sauske combined, and even then they almost got fuked up three times
    Where is it said it need physical contact? lol.
    why would it have to be said? it was shown to us
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    izanami is a genjutsu that only needs to be on one of the targets senses, touch,hearing, sight(which kabuto shielded),smell and taste,itach said he casted it when kabuto first stabs him, he doesn't need contact it was just a necessary counter attack
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    edo itachi and ems sauske combined, and even then they almost got fuked up three times

    why would it have to be said? it was shown to us
    Really bro.....it doesnt matter if they ALMOST got f***ed up they won playa mostly itachi but sasuke had some helpful moments
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Imo itachi was trying to trap him in a loop where it seemed he had the upper hand as to prevent him from realizing it as quickly.its easier to trick someone who thinks there winning rather than fool someone who already knows they're at a disadvantage
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Quote Originally Posted by -Sky- View Post
    The manga hasn't said this... Besides, no point in complaining. Izanami was the perfect tech to deal with Kabuto. Itachi got the job done.
    This to me...^^
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Quote Originally Posted by jam240 View Post
    izanami is a genjutsu that only needs to be on one of the targets senses, touch,hearing, sight(which kabuto shielded),smell and taste,itach said he casted it when kabuto first stabs him, he doesn't need contact it was just a necessary counter attack
    Oh yea this is what was...it can have that option of physical contact. Thnx!
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Whenever Sasuke & Itachi vs Kabuto is brought up at any point, even if its not directly about the battle itself, it always comes down to this.

    "Doesn't matter, Itachi won"
     
         

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    Re: Izanami does require physical contact

    Quote Originally Posted by -Sky- View Post
    The manga hasn't said this... Besides, no point in complaining. Izanami was the perfect tech to deal with Kabuto. Itachi got the job done.
    This...

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