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    MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/385/4 itachi had no real reason to keep him alive after the clan destruction was done. and he didnt seem very weakened considering he tsukuyomi'd sasuke right after killing his parents.
    furthermore, believing him to be madara, itachi sought out training from him either before or after the massacre http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/385/16. the scan proves it. obito is itachis sensei and mentor.
    obito taught him izanami just as madara did for him. its entirely likely he knew more about itachi than perhaps itachi knew himself as well as exactly how his powers and personality work. since itachi is a hypocritical selfish mindrapist, he was able to forge a deal and have itachi work for him.

    a common argument is "obito admitted itachis stronger" but lets examine that quote.
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/397/10 he kept secrets from itachi and if he hadnt hed be dead. last time he let someone know his powers (konan) they almost did kill him. but itachi failed to gather enough intel and as a result didnt even try to fight him for 10 years. if he truly wanted him dead, shouldnt he focus everything into that goal after gaining his trust? and given he only feared itachi having full intel and nothing fukin else, i assume obito has counters set up for genjutsu and such.
    people claim that its his identity that protected him but obito would lose no strength even if peopel knew he was a fake. theyd still see him as the main villain and a powerful madman who needs to be stopped. and itachi clearly cared nothing for madara's legend, considering him a pathetic failure for losing to hashirama
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Everyone knows MS Obito > MS Itachi. Stamina probs. And MS Obito wasn't scared, just did not want to take a risk he didn't need to take.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Lmao what?

    obviously MS Obito > MS Itachi, but Itachi was lying about everything that whole fight. I suppose Itachi really wanted Sasuke's eyes then? Using that information is baseless and was used to frighten Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    He said 'TEACHER'. That could easily mean he educated Itachi on the clans history.

    Way to take something that can be interpreted anyway and run with it....
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    When has an boot fear the ant.....boot obito
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    We have no idea what Itachi learned from Obtio. I think Obito beats Itachi yes.

    And way to insert your stupid anti Itachi agenda into your thread again.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    suppose Itachi really wanted Sasuke's eyes then? Using that information is baseless and was used to frighten Sasuke.
    some of it was truth. like itachi believed everything he ever said about mads and mads' backstory.

    We have no idea what Itachi learned from Obtio.
    so itachi randomly knew an ancient uchiha genjutsu and why it was created? who told him that? the tablet? i doubt the tablet would detail anything after the time of hagaromo's two sons.


    And way to insert your stupid anti Itachi agenda
    no agenda. just truth. im just trying to understand why itachi did what he did.

    That could easily mean he educated Itachi on the clans history.
    then why not just call him a historian? or a "long winded fool who told me a story once"
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    some of it was truth. like itachi believed everything he ever said about mads and mads' backstory.


    so itachi randomly knew an ancient uchiha genjutsu and why it was created? who told him that? the tablet? i doubt the tablet would detail anything after the time of hagaromo's two sons.


    no agenda. just truth. im just trying to understand why itachi did what he did.

    then why not just call him a historian? or a "long winded fool who told me a story once"
    Did he though? Do you have proof?

    Even if he did, that doesn't mean Tobi actually taught him anything. That was used to intimidate Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    I guess what you say makes sense.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    some of it was truth. like itachi believed everything he ever said about mads and mads' backstory.


    so itachi randomly knew an ancient uchiha genjutsu and why it was created? who told him that? the tablet? i doubt the tablet would detail anything after the time of hagaromo's two sons.


    no agenda. just truth. im just trying to understand why itachi did what he did.

    then why not just call him a historian? or a "long winded fool who told me a story once"
    Historian? Long winded fool?
    Don't be that guy USSJ.

    It was quite clear that Itachi was very astute at a young age about the Uchiha Clan, he was then presented with an opportunity to learn even more in-depth knowledge of the clan from it's most famous name. Why call him a historian or a fool when it's quite clear that he had to keep up the hoax and keep Sasuke fooled.

    P.S. Seriously, stop the Itachi stuff. It's getting sad. You're quite clearly someone who is a lot smarter than stuff like this.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Why call him a historian or a fool when it's quite clear that he had to keep up the hoax and keep Sasuke fooled.
    because sasuke doesnt give a shit who taught him or why. he was gonna kill the guy regardless for helping itachi slaughter his family. why would it serve any purpose or manipulate sasuke to start praising how badass madara was? if anything he was encouraging sassuke to go off and get himself killed against someone obviously far above his level (obito was not a "pathetic shell"). remember sasuke made no mention of "going back to konoha." he was gonna go galivanting off after obito and obitos army of s-class criminals. the best thing itachi could have done is told him forget it, madaras too strong. but why should i have expected calm reasonable logic from ITACHI.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    some of it was truth. like itachi believed everything he ever said about mads and mads' backstory.


    so itachi randomly knew an ancient uchiha genjutsu and why it was created? who told him that? the tablet? i doubt the tablet would detail anything after the time of hagaromo's two sons.


    no agenda. just truth. im just trying to understand why itachi did what he did.

    then why not just call him a historian? or a "long winded fool who told me a story once"
    Why could he not have learned it from the tablet? It was clear that your eyes have to be more advanced to learn about the Sages history. Sasuke learned that MS users can control the nine tails, and he had just a 2 tomoe. We don't know the full contents.

    We don't even know of Obito himself knew how to use Izanami.

    And the Uchiha definitely have info on their own clans abilities. If everyone once used it then they'd have record of it.

    Itachi was a great person
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    because sasuke doesnt give a shit who taught him or why. he was gonna kill the guy regardless for helping itachi slaughter his family. why would it serve any purpose or manipulate sasuke to start praising how badass madara was? if anything he was encouraging sassuke to go off and get himself killed against someone obviously far above his level (obito was not a "pathetic shell"). remember sasuke made no mention of "going back to konoha." he was gonna go galivanting off after obito and obitos army of s-class criminals. the best thing itachi could have done is told him forget it, madaras too strong. but why should i have expected calm reasonable logic from ITACHI.
    He wasn't encouraging Sasuke to go off and kill anybody because he never stated what Madara looked like or whether he was alive or dead. It helped keep up he hoax that Itachi had no regrets and was proud of his desicion to masscare the Uchiha clan by giving praise to someone who helped him do it.
    Are you forgetting that Obito told Sasuke he was Madara? Did Sasuke do anything? No.
    We don't know what Sasuke was going to do after defeating Itachi, his next goal was to destroy the leaf AFTER hearing Itachi's true life story.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Quote Originally Posted by -Sky- View Post
    Why could he not have learned it from the tablet? It was clear that your eyes have to be more advanced to learn about the Sages history. Sasuke learned that MS users can control the nine tails, and he had just a 2 tomoe. We don't know the full contents.

    We don't even know of Obito himself knew how to use Izanami.

    And the Uchiha definitely have info on their own clans abilities. If everyone once used it then they'd have record of it.

    Itachi was a great person
    I wouldn't say "great".

    Itachi was kind of a horrible person. But that's what being a shinobi is.

    He gave up his morality to preserve the well being of others in the future.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Are you forgetting that Obito told Sasuke he was Madara? Did Sasuke do anything?
    yes actually. sasuke tried to kill him but obi phased through it
    We don't know what Sasuke was going to do after defeating Itachi,
    again yes we do. it was defeat madara

    Itachi was a great person
    and that is exactly why he brutally and savagely mindraped a 12 year old boy and put him in a coma

    We don't even know of Obito himself knew how to use Izanami.
    madara taught him all the forbidden uchiha techs
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    yes actually. sasuke tried to kill him but obi phased through it
    No he didn't. That was a trap set by Itachi to stop the truth of his life being revealed to Sasuke.


    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    again yes we do. it was defeat madara
    No, we don't. Post the scan of Sasuke saying he was going to defeat Madara.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    No he didn't. That was a trap set by Itachi to stop the truth of his life being revealed to Sasuke.
    yes he did http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/453/6 i know what im talking about.

    Post the scan of Sasuke saying he was going to defeat Madara.
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/385/3 eeeassy....
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

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    yes he did http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/453/6 i know what im talking about.


    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/385/3 eeeassy....
    You're being ridiculous.

    1. He tried to force his way through, he didn't try to kill him.
    2. I just pointed out to you that when Sasuke found out that was 'Madara', what did he do? Nothing. You're showing me something he said before he met Madara? Did he try and kill him? No.

    Stop this nit-picking.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    1. He tried to force his way through, he didn't try to kill him.
    a raikiri in the chest isnt a kill attempt? what if obito decided not to phase or was blitzed?


    2. I just pointed out to you that when Sasuke found out that was 'Madara', what did he do? Nothing.
    he was mindfuked and tied up. he accepted what madara said was true, but he never considered him an ally or trusted him. he never stopped being on sasukes shit list
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    110 users in thos thread!
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Obito > Itachi?

    Wtf is this?
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    a raikiri in the chest isnt a kill attempt? what if obito decided not to phase or was blitzed?



    he was mindfuked and tied up. he accepted what madara said was true, but he never considered him an ally or trusted him. he never stopped being on sasukes shit list
    I've seen Naruto and Ay survive it. Why would I believe it would kill 'Madara'? It was clearly an attempt to get him out of the way.

    No. According to what you said, Sasuke should have attempted to kill him the minute he got free. He didn't.
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    MS Itachi >>>> MS Obito.

    So what's Obito have against aan who wields tsukiyomi and izanami specified for people like MS obito?
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    He didn't train jack. He taught him about history. Itachi owns him hence why he kept an image of madara to put fear into him so he wouldn't get killed.

    "if you're not tough, you gotta look tough."
     
         

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    Re: MS Obito trained Itachi and was likely stronger than him

    yet obito is afraid of itachi to take him on a fair fight
     
         

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