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    Kisame or Muu?

    Let's say you only have room for one more character in a top 10 or top 15 list. Which will you put over the other? Personally, I think I'd have to go with Kisame. What about you guys? Don't forget to vote on the poll!
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    I actually think Muu takes this :l
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    We all now that Wildboar solos. However, that would be overkill sooooooo

    Muu it is.
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    If Muu plays his cards right he can win. Muu mid-high diff
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Depends if Great Shark Missile can absorb Dust Release. However, since Mu cannot be sensed by traditional means, Samehada will most likely be incapable of sensing them. Mu also has the elemental advantage with his Earth Release.

    Mu would win this imo
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Both are on the same tier (like my 14-28 in my top 30). But Mu is smarter, and is overall more powerful. However, doesn't mean Kisame doesn't have a nice chance of winning.
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Knight View Post
    Depends if Great Shark Missile can absorb Dust Release. However, since Mu cannot be sensed by traditional means, Samehada will most likely be incapable of sensing them. Mu also has the elemental advantage with his Earth Release.

    Mu would win this imo
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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Knight View Post
    Depends if Great Shark Missile can absorb Dust Release. However, since Mu cannot be sensed by traditional means, Samehada will most likely be incapable of sensing them. Mu also has the elemental advantage with his Earth Release.

    Mu would win this imo
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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Muu or Mu. Either way the Second Tsuchikage takes this.
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    An argument can be made for both. I'd go with Kisame, personally, Samehada's abilities make him immune to almost any Ninjutsu and Genjutsu, and his proficiency in Kenjutsu allows him to go toe to toe with almost anybody when it comes to close combat. When you take into account that his Chakra reserves are among the greater ones in the NV, along with his ability to regenerate almost any injury, I feel that he can be put above Mu, although like I said, it's merely a matter of opinion.

    [This is just talking overall power. In a 1v1, Mu would most likely take this.]
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Flight is just too op Mu is more like 8-15 Kisame is more like 10-18
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Post these in the VS ...Less stupidity

    Kisame can win...

    But so can Mu

    Kisamehada mode is hard to overcome for Mu tho
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clouds View Post
    I actually think Muu takes this :l
    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Mangekyo Byakugan View Post
    We all now that Wildboar solos. However, that would be overkill sooooooo

    Muu it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by XxAlitaxX View Post
    If Muu plays his cards right he can win. Muu mid-high diff
    I guess I might just be wrong on this one then. Can I get some reasons why? I think Kisame can negate the advantage of invisibility by flooding the ground, he would be able to detect Muu by ripples in the water when Muu makes a move.

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Knight View Post
    Depends if Great Shark Missile can absorb Dust Release. However, since Mu cannot be sensed by traditional means, Samehada will most likely be incapable of sensing them. Mu also has the elemental advantage with his Earth Release.

    Mu would win this imo

    I explained how I think the invisibility can be negated in a matchup like this. Great Shark Bullet should be able to counter Jinton because it's chakra based right? It should only make the technique stronger, so these two reasons are the main reasons why I think Kisame can beat Muu
     
         
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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Knight View Post
    Depends if Great Shark Missile can absorb Dust Release. However, since Mu cannot be sensed by traditional means, Samehada will most likely be incapable of sensing them. Mu also has the elemental advantage with his Earth Release.

    Mu would win this imo

    Going against the grain on this one.

    Kisame can sense Mu if he comes in through his shark smell.

    Now if he gets into his range. Shark dome will show him through the imprint of the water.

    It would show a imprint of his body.


    Kisame can take this.

    I go with Kisame
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Kisame Hoshigaki.
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by -6 Paths- View Post
    An argument can be made for both. I'd go with Kisame, personally, Samehada's abilities make him immune to almost any Ninjutsu and Genjutsu, and his proficiency in Kenjutsu allows him to go toe to toe with almost anybody when it comes to close combat. When you take into account that his Chakra reserves are among the greater ones in the NV, along with his ability to regenerate almost any injury, I feel that he can be put above Mu, although like I said, it's merely a matter of opinion.

    [This is just talking overall power. In a 1v1, Mu would most likely take this.]
    Definitely agree that Kisame's feats and versatility puts him over Muu when it comes to competing against other people overall, they both aren't characters that get beat easily. Though because of the way they matchup, I can't help by feel like Kisame takes this more times than he loses. I can see Muu winning in a few scenarios but I see Kisame winning more often.
    Quote Originally Posted by Onetimepost2 View Post
    Flight is just too op Mu is more like 8-15 Kisame is more like 10-18
    Flight is pretty OP but so is being able to flood your surroundings to your advantage
    Quote Originally Posted by Zexion~ View Post
    Post these in the VS ...Less stupidity

    Kisame can win...

    But so can Mu

    Kisamehada mode is hard to overcome for Mu tho
    Agreed, Kisamehada is tough for any shinobi to counter once they're caught.
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    I guess I might just be wrong on this one then. Can I get some reasons why? I think Kisame can negate the advantage of invisibility by flooding the ground, he would be able to detect Muu by ripples in the water when Muu makes a move.

    @NK, I explained how I think the invisibility can be negated in a matchup like this. Great Shark Bullet should be able to counter Jinton because it's chakra based right? It should only make the technique stronger, so these two reasons are the main reasons why I think Kisame can beat Muu
    Muu can fly and be invisible at the same time so either Muu has to be really patient to figure out Kisame's abilities or go use his techniques and let Kisame figure them out
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Someone brought flight into this.

    But Kisame could fly too.

    Flight would not take away from Kisame
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    Definitely agree that Kisame's feats and versatility puts him over Muu when it comes to competing against other people overall, they both aren't characters that get beat easily. Though because of the way they matchup, I can't help by feel like Kisame takes this more times than he loses. I can see Muu winning in a few scenarios but I see Kisame winning more often.

    Flight is pretty OP but so is being able to flood your surroundings to your advantage



    Agreed, Kisamehada is tough for any shinobi to counter once they're caught.
    Dont forget that mu can fly he can fire dust release from the sky while invisible...thats just too op for kisame
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Muu easily takes this

    Jinton + Flying + top notch sensor + Invisibility. Muu is too much
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    Definitely agree that Kisame's feats and versatility puts him over Muu when it comes to competing against other people overall, they both aren't characters that get beat easily. Though because of the way they matchup, I can't help by feel like Kisame takes this more times than he loses. I can see Muu winning in a few scenarios but I see Kisame winning more often.
    Kisame's main weakness [Albeit, a small one] is the fact that when it comes to long range attacks, he's not too versatile. The main thing he has is his Suiton, which should be avoidable for someone like Mu, who has great speed and reflexes, along with his ability to fly. As soon as Mu takes flight Kisame won't have too much to take him out with, and once Mu fires a large Jinton at him, Kisame will most likely be taken out. [Seeing as Samehada had trouble absorbing a Katon attack, it's not too far fetched to assume that it won't be able to take on an attack which disintegrates anything it touches, which is a combination of the Fire element, along with two others.] Of course, Kisame has a chance of winning this, but overall, I'd give Mu the edge here.
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blargh View Post
    Muu can fly and be invisible at the same time so either Muu has to be really patient to figure out Kisame's abilities or go use his techniques and let Kisame figure them out
    Quote Originally Posted by Onetimepost2 View Post
    Dont forget that mu can fly he can fire dust release from the sky while invisible...thats just too op for kisame
    Hm, you guys might wanna back that up for me. I was under the impression that Muu isn't able to attack or use other techniques that require chakra while he's invisible. He's hiding his chakra, once he starts to use it, he should turn visible then right? Since flight uses chakra as well, I figured any at temp to fly would make Muu visible as well.
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Knight View Post
    Depends if Great Shark Missile can absorb Dust Release. However, since Mu cannot be sensed by traditional means, Samehada will most likely be incapable of sensing them. Mu also has the elemental advantage with his Earth Release.

    Mu would win this imo
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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Time to counter some.


    Have people forgot Kisame flying.



    Now the anime of it starting at 1:03
     
         

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    Re: Kisame or Muu?

    Quote Originally Posted by -6 Paths- View Post
    Kisame's main weakness [Albeit, a small one] is the fact that when it comes to long range attacks, he's not too versatile. The main thing he has is his Suiton, which should be avoidable for someone like Mu, who has great speed and reflexes, along with his ability to fly. As soon as Mu takes flight Kisame won't have too much to take him out with, and once Mu fires a large Jinton at him, Kisame will most likely be taken out. [Seeing as Samehada had trouble absorbing a Katon attack, it's not too far fetched to assume that it won't be able to take on an attack which disintegrates anything it touches, which is a combination of the Fire element, along with two others.] Of course, Kisame has a chance of winning this, but overall, I'd give Mu the edge here.
    But Kisame has plenty of long range - mid range attacks too.
    Then look at that attack Mu uses.

    It takes a while to store up. That is to long for Kisame fast attacks. He would be exposed doing that
     
         

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