[Discussion] One Piece manga 587 is out!

[Caliburn]

Holy crap O.O Dragon is awesome.

It's Kuma on page 16

Oda, you're my hero

[StealthShinobi]

kuma ivankov And DRAGON !!!! AWESOME

[Shunsui]

One Piece 587 - Read Online at Manga Stream

Holy crap O.O Dragon is awesome.

It's Kuma on page 16

Oda, you're my hero

Ivankov and Kuma knew each other, but now we probably get the picture how and why kuma is now with WG

[Caliburn]

Ivankov and Kuma knew each other, but now we probably get the picture how and why kuma is now with WG

Yes but at that time at Marineford Ivankov said something like "after a fashion-" so it appeared like they just meet once or something and had a one-night stand ~_~

And I find it quite odd of Ace. Apparantly he has the King's Dispostition and at Marineford he said, when Luffy used it, "you too". So apparantly Ace was aware he had it, so why didn't he use it? If you know you have it, you can at least expect he has some degree of control over it. I mean Luffy has no clue he has that power ~_~

[Shunsui]

Yes but at that time at Marineford Ivankov said somethint like "after a fashion-" so it appeared like they just meat once or something and had a one-night stand ~_~

And I find it quite odd of Ace. Apparantly he has the King's Dispostition and at Marineford he said, when Luffy used it, "you too". So apparantly Ace was aware he had it, so why didn't he use it? If you know you have it, you can at least expect he has some degree of control over it. I mean Luffy has no clue he has that power ~_~

one night stand? ouch, now i know why kuma left!

m, not sure what u mean, Ace doesnt have Haki, and its about time Luffy start spamm Haki´ng all those Admirals :D

[Caliburn]

one night stand? ouch, now i know why kuma left!

m, not sure what u mean, Ace doesnt have Haki, and its about time Luffy start spamm Haki´ng all those Admirals :D

Ace just knocked out the entire Bluejam crew with Haki atm they wanted to kill Luffy ._.

[★Grim]

And I find it quite odd of Ace. Apparantly he has the King's Dispostition and at Marineford he said, when Luffy used it, "you too". So apparantly Ace was aware he had it, so why didn't he use it? If you know you have it, you can at least expect he has some degree of control over it. I mean Luffy has no clue he has that power ~_~

its very odd, same with fight against Black Beard

[ringleader]

did u see sabos pirate flag

it looks like ace's tatoo on his left arm

A
S - sabos pirate flag here
C
E

[sexyprep1]

can someone explain to me whats happeing cause im so lost in these like last 4 chapters

[Caliburn]

did u see sabos pirate flag

it looks like ace's tatoo on his left arm

A
S - sabos pirate flag here
C
E

that could be very well possible and I thinking the one who made the tattoo screwed it up _O-

can someone explain to me whats happeing cause im so lost in these like last 4 chapters

~_~ just read them slowly

[ringleader]

that could be very well possible and I thinking the one who made the tattoo screwed it up _O-

i thought that too until now just goes to show that Oda had Sabo character in his head for a long time

[~Hasashi~]

eh i am gonna make a prediction here based on some things we see in the manga

i think although kuma is a complete cyborg he answers to dragon

i know he attacked ivankov but he was probably ordered to fight for the marines so when the time comes for the war against them dragon can have a very high up spy

i am basing this on a few things

1. the fact that he didn't kill luffy
2. the fact that he was with dragon
3. well it doesn't really make sense for a pirate with revolutionary ties to become a puppet of the WG ~_~ this seems to be the only plausible explanation (i think anyway)


also on the ace kings disposition thing

well idk it's possible he never had time to learn it

think about it

he left 3 years before luffy so that is 6 years he is out on sea

you have to assume he was with his other crew for 3 years at least and when he first joined the WB crew he hated WB
we can also assume he was looking for BB for at least a year (for BB to gather 5 nakama from all over the world would have taken him about that time plus he probably has all five for a while and ace was chasing him from the start)

so it is safe to assume he only learned about it from WB and never got the chance to learn to control it