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    Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    While replying to another thread, something just hit me. In Hashirama's and Madara's fight at VoTE Hashirama had Bijuus 2-7 in his possession. Think about it, Hashirama was already Hokage when he fought Madara and he said so himself that the Hokage cannot leave the village but to stay and watch over everyone so he couldn't go Bijuu hunting as Hokage. As Hokage, Hashirama gave other nations bijuus so he did have them.

    Think how OP Hashirama is without using any Bijuus (taking on the strongest Bijuu and PS), he no doubt number 1 in manga after the Sage. Also, since he took Kurama too, his prime is with 2-9 Bijuus. Saw people saying BM Minato, Edo Madara and Itachi are number 1 when Hashirama clearly have the power to beat them all.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Well yeah Hashi was too much powerful in his prime..
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    That should have been obvious
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Sachchidanand View Post
    Well yeah Hashi was too much powerful in his prime..
    Kabuto did say many people viewed Hashirama's power a myth like the Sage's haha


    Quote Originally Posted by zamki View Post
    That should have been obvious
    I never really thought about it tho or I think I did long ago and forgot haha We never new that much about Hashirama vs Madara fight until we saw it
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    That's quite obvious...
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Sachchidanand View Post
    Well yeah Hashi was too much powerful in his prime..
    I agree
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Well I thought that was obvious

    Also Prime Hiruzen walks all over Hashirama and Madara
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    Well I thought that was obvious

    Also Prime Hiruzen walks all over Hashirama and Madara
    Not to some, Someone said Nagato can beat Hashirama and Madara on 1 on 1
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    DSM Kabuto can beat Hashirama in 1 on 1.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post
    DSM Kabuto can beat Hashirama in 1 on 1.
    Sasori beats both so gg.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

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    Sasori beats both so gg.
    So much yes.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    Well I thought that was obvious

    Also Prime Hiruzen walks all over Hashirama and Madara
    Yep yep.

    Hiruzen is so kool.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    It's obvious but nmv.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    I think he had them captured but not able to use them in battle like Madara could, since he made a summoning contract.

    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post
    DSM Kabuto can beat Hashirama in 1 on 1.
    Never....
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post
    DSM Kabuto can beat Hashirama in 1 on 1.
    Hashirama uses Flower tree world, if Kabuto doesn't get crushed by it then he dies from the spores haha Summon Edos? Hashirama laughs then pull out the Bijuus and wipe out Kabuto then use wood clones to seal the edos.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    True, but a motived Obito as the Juubi Jin still should pack more of a punch. A motivated Obito that is, not the whiner that Kishi has eventually transformed him to be.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    hashirama for the win, Tobirama doe makes him shut up
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Hashirama was a beast. His 1000 hands summon could beat susanoo kurama, that means theoretically it should be able to beat obito (when he was 10 tails host).
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Depends. We don't know if he could "control" them to the point of readily using them for battle. If he could, then seriously, the only one who compares is Rikudou. With such a vast Mokuton arsenal and the power of the Bijuu's behind him, Edo Madara gets obliterated and I'd vouch to say he'd beat Obito (Juubi Jin) by infusing the TBB's (if possible) with Senjutsu. But I doubt we'll ever get clarification that he could actually use them for battle.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    well its not like he can use the bijuu like an uchiha can sooo he might have them but he cant do anything with them except make them sleep lol
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    obviously, hashirama cannot use the biju in battle. its ridiculous that people are even discussing this.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Hashirama should've just became a Jinchuuriki
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Enma 1 shots hashirama
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Hashirama did not use bijuu's in battle you.......noob, and he didn't have 2-9 bijuu's in possession. Tobi said he had several (2+) in control.
     
         

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    Re: Something that we might have overlooked about Hashirama VS Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Transcendence View Post
    Depends. We don't know if he could "control" them to the point of readily using them for battle. If he could, then seriously, the only one who compares is Rikudou. With such a vast Mokuton arsenal and the power of the Bijuu's behind him, Edo Madara gets obliterated and I'd vouch to say he'd beat Obito (Juubi Jin) by infusing the TBB's (if possible) with Senjutsu. But I doubt we'll ever get clarification that he could actually use them for battle.
    Well, we have to keep in mind, just one of those giant massive Juubi TBB is at least one thousand times stronger than this:




    let alone four giant TBB simultaneously from his summoning tree.

    Hashi would have a tough battle.

    That's at least four thousand times the destructive power of what you see in the above image.
    To see why, use the volume of a sphere and compare the radii( each of which is easily more than 10 times greater) of the giant TBB to the tiny one made by the skinny 2nd stage Juubi.

    Now, this is me being very generous in my calculations.


    Most likely though, it's much much greater than just 4000 times the image above since the Juubi Jin can concentrate power to a much higher level, (just Obito's charkra arms exceeds the destructive capacity of a giant TBB from second stage Juubi). So it's reasonable to assume that one of Obitos giant TBB is actually stronger than is own charka arms, which means the density of Obito's giant TBB is actually much higher than the TBB of the same size from the second stage Juubi.

    We are talking about destruction on the scale that causes global nuclear winter. That is:

     
         
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