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    Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

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    For Buddhists, these six realms represent all possible states of existence. They were traditionally conceived as real places, but can also be interpreted symbolically. The animal, ghost and hell realms are all places of punishment for previous sins, whereas birth in the heavenly, asura, or human realms comes through the accumulation (and spending) of karmic merit. Life in any of these realms is ultimately impermanent—one does not suffer forever in hell, nor enjoy eternal bliss in heaven.

    So with this latest chapter, it was pretty much confirmed that the races of Bleach fit the realms of reincarnation in Buddhism. They would fit like this:

    Buddhism Bleach
    Deva Shinigami
    Asura Quincies
    Human Humans(no surprises there)
    Beast Animals
    Preta Hollows
    Naraka ??

    But, I'm continuously finding myself having trouble figuring out where Zanpakutou fit anywhere. To me, they must be their own race since they have their own mind, body, and spirit which are separate from the Shinigami's. Kubo does often just refer to Zanpakutou spirits as "Shinigami powers," but there must be more to it. As we learned from the Quincies stealing the Shinigami's Bankai, even without their inner Zanpakutou they can still use the rest of their powers.

    This is where the crack comes in. I think that Zanpakutou are actually sinners from Hell. I believe that Hell is actually similar to the Dangai, being an intermediate area where souls are kept to be fused with incoming good souls to become their inner Zanpakutou spirits, serving them until death as their weapon. As such, the diagram would be this:

    Buddhism Bleach
    Deva Shinigami
    Asura Quincies
    Human Humans(no surprises there)
    Beast Animals
    Preta Hollows
    Naraka Zanpakutou


    This would explain why only some souls have the ability to manifest Zanpakutou (because there was a sinner waiting to be fused to them). Of course, the sinners would also forget their past like the Shinigami, which is why they don't still act like insane criminals.

    The main reason I thought of this was because of the amount of Zanpakutou which reference hell and other mythological beings associated with suffering, etc. Of the 14 Bankai we've seen, 2 of them directly reference Hell (in name alone, there are more in terms of ability names and appearance), and 4 more reference wrathful beings. Zanpakutou also fit very nicely in the diagram of the six realms, explaining why Zanpakutou and Hollows seem to be so easily compatible, whereas once a Shinigami gets Hollowfied (as in, once a hole opens in their chest) they explode from Soul Suicide.

    Also, most Zanpakutou have an animal to represent them. That doesn't really fit with Shinigami, since they're first and foremost entirely human. However, both beasts and Hollows are animalistic, so it would follow that Hell beings should also be animalistic. Of course, not all Hollows are animals, so it would be the same for Zanpakutou. They're just animalistic in appearance but (unlike Hollows) not in nature.

    Ultimately, this would mean that there are 5 types of being. Humans and animals are the same, living in the same realm and such. I mean, humans are animals after all. Y'know how Kubo is with the number 5 these days.
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    quincys are humans that learnt to control reishi

    zanpaktou spirit is the manifestation/avatar of a shinigamis power through which is becomes usable through an asauchi

    so what the quicies stole was basically apart of the shinigamis soul

    OT: read the niyamiya palace part of the recent chapters(if that's how you spell it)
     
         
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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    Quote Originally Posted by juzumaki View Post
    quincys are humans that learnt to control reishi

    zanpaktou spirit is the manifestation/avatar of a shinigamis power through which is becomes usable through an asauchi
    Plz elaborate ur views about quincies..
    i am currently obsessed with naraka path..so i will have that discussion later!
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tysoncs View Post
    Plz elaborate ur views about quincies..
    i am currently obsessed with naraka path..so i will have that discussion later!
    can't be a separate realm if its the same species
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    Quote Originally Posted by juzumaki View Post
    can't be a separate realm if its the same species
    They arent human..they are human mediums!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sachchidanand View Post
    No, Asuras can't be zanpakuto and this is the basic flaw of this theory, asuras are treated as enemies of Devas(shinigamis), which isn't true,sorry but I disagree with this theory.
    But i have said asuras are quincies!
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tysoncs View Post
    But i have said asuras are quincies!
    Sorry bro, just woke up, deleted it, maybe I should post in a while, after taking a cup of tea...
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tysoncs View Post
    They arent human..they are human mediums!


    But i have said asuras are quincies!
    what the difference
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    Quote Originally Posted by juzumaki View Post
    what the difference
    being a human and as a human medium are different..mediums arent the same as beings..i am talking about quincy world and powers here..
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    I'll agree with your theory for now seems like you might have some flaws so i'll wait.
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    and good thing is buddha was born in nepal and i was born in nepal
    so.....
    i m buddha hahaha...
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    and good thing is buddha was born in nepal and i was born in nepal
    so.....
    i m buddha hahaha...
     
         

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    Re: Connection Of The Six Realms Of Buddhism to Bleach!!

    Quote Originally Posted by -Tremendous- View Post
    I'll agree with your theory for now seems like you might have some flaws so i'll wait.
    thankz for agreeing
    Quote Originally Posted by shresthabijay26 View Post
    and good thing is buddha was born in nepal and i was born in nepal
    so.....
    i m buddha hahaha...
    Quote Originally Posted by shresthabijay26 View Post
    and good thing is buddha was born in nepal and i was born in nepal
    so.....
    i m buddha hahaha...
    thankz bro for reading!
     
         

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