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    Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamui

    Hello guys I would like to talk about another Rinnegan technique, which potential was not displayed sadly.

    I am talking about this technique:


    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_L...Body_Technique

    This technique is called in Viz manga: Art of Astral Projection

    Also it could is translated in english to: Astral Projection Jutsu

    Some of you can argue that this technique was not destined or has not use as offensive technique..., just gathering information, talking and for other purpouses...

    However it is not true as Pein(Nagato through Deva Path) was able to use techniques while using this technique as here:









    Basically using this technique Nagato could use all Rinnegan techniques while opponent can harm him...

    Nagato could also hide his pressence in chameleon, who can turns invisible to eyes.

    Literally it could be limitless intangibility... as we have not proof that these astral projections can be destroyed... unless you kill real body.

    But even if this astral projection can be destroyed then Nagato could easily recreate his astral projection and keep attacking.

    This could be very OP Technique working as medium while using other offensive techniques through use of this technique.

    Pros:

    - Virtually invincibility unless you can find and kill Real body
    - can spam attacks at oppenents while you can NOT be harmed in any way
    - easily recreatable after astral projection get destroyed
    - Can move freely
    - Can talk with someone without your pressence needed
    - Can spy someone without danger of being killed
    - Can use Genjutsu or Ninjutsu to fight opponent without danger of dying or getting injured.


    Cons:

    - Can be interrupted if real body get found
    - Can be stopped if you run out of chakra
    - Can NOT fight in taijutsu or make physical contact

    that all

    To defeats Nagato using this technique... you need to be/have :

    - Sensor shinobi
    - great durability to survive Rinnegan spam technique
    - Ability to travel fast to get to the location of real body(Space Time Ninjutsu/ speed movement)
    - Huge amount of chakra to defend himself/herself long enough until finding real body

    So much wasted potential by Kishi with Nagato character.... It looks like even Kishi was afraid how OP Rinnegan user could be...

    This Rinnegan technique could be perfect counter for Kamui technique.

    If Long ranged Kamui is used then, nothing happens to Rinnegan uses besides just fading away and reappearing behind enemy to give lethal blow.

    If Short ranged Kamui wrapping ability is used, then Rinnegan user's astral projection get absorbed then Rinnegan user can suprise Kamui user appearing again and attacking from behind.

    If Intangibility is used then then it is stalemate as both of them can hurt each other.

    If Obito become intangible, then even although parts of his body is sent to other dimenssion then his soul is still staying in real world....also nothing proves that physical contact is required for these dragons shaped chakra to rip souls out of bodies and absorb them.

    Thanks for reading !

    Please share your thoughts
     
         
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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    useless Jutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by נıм View Post
    useless Jutsu.
    Useless Post
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Sharingan can see Chãkra.

    Therefore, does not help.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaNagashi View Post
    Sharingan can see Chãkra.

    Therefore, does not help.
    then why was kakashi unable to see where nagato was controlling the pain characters from?
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    First, that jutsu isn't rinnegan technique. Just because Nagato uses random jutsu, that doesn't make it rinnegan.

    Second, like the other one said, sharingan sees chakra, so its useless. Kamui is both offence and defence. That jutsu isn't.

    The answer is no.

    Quote Originally Posted by novacore View Post
    then why was kakashi unable to see where nagato was controlling the pain characters from?
    Because Nagato kept changing the signals of his chakra signature. It was impossible to sense or see him unless his pains have been defeated.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaNagashi View Post
    Sharingan can see Chãkra.

    Therefore, does not help.
    Does not help when Rinnegan wielder spams Rinnegan techniques, attacking him with any break so Sharingan user could not have time to focus about direction chakra is comming from...

    Maybe even this Rinnegan technique can block Sharingan vision or make it ineffective... it could be special technique which can not be tracked by chakra...
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    don't know....! not interested...! complex technique....!
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by novacore View Post
    then why was kakashi unable to see where nagato was controlling the pain characters from?
    Truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Rules View Post
    First, that jutsu isn't rinnegan technique. Just because Nagato uses random jutsu, that doesn't make it rinnegan.

    Second, like the other one said, sharingan sees chakra, so its useless. Kamui is both offence and defence. That jutsu isn't.

    The answer is no.
    Maybe this is not Rinnegan technique... but all manga panels and actions point that this Technique was Rinnegan technique.

    This technique is even more OP... as these images can be destroyed and easily recreated as shown in the manga.
    It can be used as defence to fool opponent that you died then get him killed with surprise attack...

    and for offense to spam Rinengan techniques while can NOT be killed or harmed (Real body is safe and hidden in chameleon which turns invisible...)

    Good luck with stopping Rinnegan wielder with mastery over Rinnegan techniques...
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by novacore View Post
    then why was kakashi unable to see where nagato was controlling the pain characters from?
    Nagato changed signals everytime.

    Not to mention, Sharingan isn't basically a sensor tool. He can't see something so far away.

    Naruto sensed it, different thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by KCMNaruto View Post
    Does not help when Rinnegan wielder spams Rinnegan techniques, attacking him with any break so Sharingan user could not have time to focus about direction chakra is comming from...

    Maybe even this Rinnegan technique can block Sharingan vision or make it ineffective... it could be special technique which can not be tracked by chakra...
    It isn't sensing.

    No matter what, they see it as Chãkra. And that's when he's exposed.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Rules View Post
    Because Nagato kept changing the signals of his chakra signature. It was impossible to sense or see him unless his pains have been defeated.
    So he can do that again... nothing stops him from changing signals of his chakra signature while using this technique...

    There is no reason that it would not work... so Sharingan user could not track his chakra to find him, simple as that.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Me possible more open to Ino controlling him, and Genjutsu would most likely effect him like ninjutsu would, and I think it's more of a clairvoyance voyeurism technique
    In theory a Hyuga can destroy him.
     
         
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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Gentoshin no Jutsu isn't an RG tech.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by KCMNaruto View Post
    So he can do that again... nothing stops him from changing signals of his chakra signature while using this technique...

    There is no reason that it would not work... so Sharingan user could not track his chakra to find him, simple as that.
    No, Madara Rules put it wrong way.

    Seeing was different, however everytime he stabbed someone f.e Kakashi, they could feel his Chãkra.

    In order to prevent being sensed, he changed the signals (locations) everytime. This is why HQ failed to sense him. But non-sensors were able to sense him too, since it was such strong link.

    Seeing him is different. Since he is so many miles away, it's nearly impossible to track down someone with Sharingan. When Kakashi was searching for f.e Naruto and Sasuke, he didn't use Sharingan to track them down, but instead his ninja hound dogs.

    Not to mention, if he is not controlling Paths, Nagato will be tracked down immediately.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Rules View Post
    First, that jutsu isn't rinnegan technique. Just because Nagato uses random jutsu, that doesn't make it rinnegan.

    Second, like the other one said, sharingan sees chakra, so its useless. Kamui is both offence and defence. That jutsu isn't.

    The answer is no.



    Because Nagato kept changing the signals of his chakra signature. It was impossible to sense or see him unless his pains have been defeated.
    I really agree with EVERYTHING this guy said.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    i see , great points u made
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by KCMNaruto View Post
    So he can do that again... nothing stops him from changing signals of his chakra signature while using this technique...

    There is no reason that it would not work... so Sharingan user could not track his chakra to find him, simple as that.
    Obito can sense chakra [1]. Obito will sense the chakra being sent to the pains, and with kamui which allows him to teleport even in the speed of light [2], he goes to where Nagato is and finishes him off.





    Quote Originally Posted by KCMNaruto View Post
    Maybe this is not Rinnegan technique... but all manga panels and actions point that this Technique was Rinnegan technique.

    This technique is even more OP... as these images can be destroyed and easily recreated as shown in the manga.
    It can be used as defence to fool opponent that you died then get him killed with surprise attack...

    and for offense to spam Rinengan techniques while can NOT be killed or harmed (Real body is safe and hidden in chameleon which turns invisible...)

    Good luck with stopping Rinnegan wielder with mastery over Rinnegan techniques...
    Panels don't show that. Databook, manga and even Narutowiki all say its not rinnegan technique. Its just ninjutsu Nagato mastered.

    Okay then, if it works like kamui then explain how Nagato touched the ground. It doesn't work the way you think. Its just a technique that used to deliver something in form of waves through chakra rather than delivering your self.

    Example:

    -I got a scroll from konoha and i have to take it to iwagakure.
    -That means i have to walk for days and tire myself.
    -Better way of wasting all that time, i use the astral jutsu and summon the scroll to the position i want.

    Even Nagato wasn't using it against Naruto. Its not going to work on kamui.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaNagashi View Post
    [FONT=Candara]No, Madara Rules put it wrong way.
    I haven't put it in the wrong way. If his pains have been defeated, then Nagato can be tracked which is what i said in my post.

    What's wrong about that?
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Rules View Post
    I haven't put it in the wrong way. If his pains have been defeated, then Nagato can be tracked which is what i said in my post.

    What's wrong about that?
    Oh, my bad.

    I meant he read it in wrong way.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Astral Projection?...How incorrect.

    OT:

    That is not a technique exclusive to the rinnegan. It is simply a ninjutsu that can be acquired by any ninja.

    No where in the description did it state that it was a rinnegan tech.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Probably thats from the rinnegan and since like the other rinnegan jutsu ulyou have to use hands for the seals
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    shit thread
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Quote Originally Posted by itachiuchiha21 View Post
    shit thread
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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    Hahaha pain has sharingan in the "you're late. Prepare it immediately" scan lol.
     
         

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    Re: Wasted potential with Rinnegan technique"Astral Projection", also counter to Kamu

    I forgot about that jutsu.
     
         

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