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    Current Madara > Edo Madara

    So there have been alot of people saying that living madara is weaker than edo state since he has no longer infinite chakra.

    lets say Edo Madara had 1000 gallons of infinite chakra = which means he can't receive more chakra due to edo.

    Current Madara is alive which means 1000 gallons of chakra, but he can suck chakra from fodders via white zetsu and tailed beast by the wooden dragon



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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    So he says, but I don't see how.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    lets say Edo Madara had 1000 gallons of infinite chakra
    This logic is so broken.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    I just can't see how he's stronger now that he's revived.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    lets say Edo Madara had 1000 gallons of infinite chakra

    Quote Originally Posted by MythicDonut View Post
    This logic is so broken.
    This part really confused me... :c
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    So he says, but I don't see how.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skylar Knight View Post
    I just can't see how he's stronger now that he's revived.
    chakra capacity increased
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Survival of life and death plays a factor than Edo Tensei.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    maybe there is a jutsu you can only use when you are alive.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

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    chakra capacity increased
    That's hardly an improvement. If that's true, the Alliance will make short work of him.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    That's hardly an improvement. If that's true, the Alliance will make short work of him.
    new powers that he couldn't use when he was an edo tensei.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchihareborn207 View Post
    maybe there is a jutsu you can only use when you are alive.
    Izanagi? or new high caliber jutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    That's hardly an improvement. If that's true, the Alliance will make short work of him.
    we are talking biju level improvement
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    It's because the Edo form is still not perfect.

    Even Tobirama noted that it's not quite complete:

     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    i still think madara`s power is the same as it was in his edo form(well,obviously he is more vulnerable now because he doesnt have infinite chakra and undying body)

    i think he just said he can fight with full power now because he is happy that he`s alive again
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by omarsen View Post
    Izanagi? or new high caliber jutsu?
    yes, new powers is exactly what this manga need.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Because his raw power in ET is weaker in his living form.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    And why would the Edo body only allow for that 1000 gallons? It has been stressed multiple times that a living body can only expend and house so much chakra, but Edos have unlimited chakra and don't need to worry about chakra exhaustion. You have the facts backwards.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Kishi better not pull an ass pull and cop out madara being able to stand 4 edo kages, 4kages,oro,kakashi,sasuke,naruto and the alliance + tailed beasts
    Alive madara is way weaker.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
    It's because the Edo form is still not perfect.

    Even Tobirama noted that it's not quite complete:

    This shouldn't be problem for Madara since his Edo is "special"

     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by omarsen View Post
    Izanagi? or new high caliber jutsu?


    we are talking biju level improvement
    It'll take a lot more than a Bijū level shinobi to defeat 7 Bijūs, 3 Perfect Jinchuriki, Hashirama who is more strong than the Bijū, and thousands of other Shinobi of varying strength. Madara has said PS is his strongest Jutsu. Wood Golem was equaling it.
    Maybe Madara did improve his Chakra, but he has something else. If he doesn't, he'll be dealt with quickly.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by MythicDonut View Post
    This logic is so broken.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clouds View Post
    lets say Edo Madara had 1000 gallons of infinite chakra



    This part really confused me... :c
    He's saying that it has a limit but it replenishes itself. eg. A 1000 gallon tank of chakra can't use a jutsu that requires 1100 gallons but it can use one worth 900 gallons as long as it wants.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    I'm thinking Edo's are simply not as strong as they are when they're alive. Which would make sense anyway since it's kinda unfair for all the Edo's being revived at full strength and be able to regenerate. It's too advantageous to me. So maybe now that he's alive, he's at full strength. Plus the thrill of actually being alive probably gives him more of a kick because he seems more passionate than we've ever seen him in the last panel all series.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    And why would the Edo body only allow for that 1000 gallons? It has been stressed multiple times that a living body can only expend and house so much chakra, but Edos have unlimited chakra and don't need to worry about chakra exhaustion. You have the facts backwards.
    Because he had a limited chakra capacity in Edo, you could see that when he made clones, his chakra divided by 50, and the clones didn't have full susanoo. if he had infinite non chakra capacity, he would make 10000 clones with perfect susanoo
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Alive Madara is stronger, but as the fight drags on he will naturally become fatigued.

    Being alive has it's pros and cons.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by omarsen View Post
    This shouldn't be problem for Madara since his Edo is "special"

    All Kabuto did was re-engineer his genes so he would be revived into a younger body.

    Adding Senju DNA only added Mokuton and RG to his arsenal, but Edo's limits means his raw power is still restricted, as Tobirama stated.
     
         

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    Re: Current Madara > Edo Madara

    Quote Originally Posted by Drakengard View Post
    He's saying that it has a limit but it replenishes itself. eg. A 1000 gallon tank of chakra can't use a jutsu that requires 1100 gallons but it can use one worth 900 gallons as long as it wants.
    Thanks bro :D exactly, I imagine perfect Izanagi would require far more chakra like madara+tailed beast. make nothing into something like object or new jutsu.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro Kami View Post
    I'm thinking Edo's are simply not as strong as they are when they're alive. Which would make sense anyway since it's kinda unfair for all the Edo's being revived at full strength and be able to regenerate. It's too advantageous to me. So maybe now that he's alive, he's at full strength. Plus the thrill of actually being alive probably gives him more of a kick because he seems more passionate than we've ever seen him in the last panel all series.
    true feelings may add abit to his skill & chakra but only minimum improvment there, i mean now he is alive and suck chakra from tailed beast or people from people

     
         

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