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    How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Alright , so for Kisame .

    1 - Zetsu
    2 - Konan
    3 - Hidan
    4 - Tsunade
    5 - Kamui Obito

    For Danzo

    1 - Hebi Sasuke
    2 - Deidara
    3 - 3rd Raikage
    4 - Kabuto DSM
    5 - EMS Madara .

    I think that Kisame stops at Kamui Obito , while Danzo at 3rd Raikage .
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Kisame stops at 5. First 4 is not even much of a challenge.

    Can't say much about danzo. He was not good at using his tools well.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by kladarakun View Post
    Alright , so for Kisame .

    1 - Zetsu
    2 - Konan
    3 - Hidan
    4 - Tsunade
    5 - Kamui Obito

    For Danzo

    1 - Hebi Sasuke
    2 - Deidara
    3 - 3rd Raikage
    4 - Kabuto DSM
    5 - EMS Madara .

    I think that Kisame stops at Kamui Obito , while Danzo at 3rd Raikage .
    You mean in terms of beating?

    Danzõ would never be equal with Madara or Kabuto...

    And Kisame can't handle MS Obito.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Kamui Obito beats Kisame.

    And DSM Kabuto beats Danzo
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Danzo stops at Kabuto.
    Kisame stops at Obito.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Danzo stops at deidara

    I agree with kisame
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Kisame makes it to Obito and Danzo stomps all with KA
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    1. Kisame stops at Tsunade

    2. Danzo soloes all. KA > All
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    lol with KA not restricted... Danzo stomps all in his list if KA is restricted then Kabuto
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Does Konan have the Paper Ocean technique? If so, even Kisame would have a hard time trying to deal with six hundred billion paper tags...

    Said technique is much longer and deeper than Dai Bakusui Shōha and if Kisame did use the aforementioned technique, he backs himself into a corner, since underwater explosions are much stronger.

    It's a case of whether she goes straight to that technique, if not, Kisame pawns.

    Supposing Kisame makes it past Konan, then yes, he stops at MS Obito and for Danzo, I also agree that he stops at Sandaime Raikage.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Kisame stops at 5. Danzo has KA... since we don't know it's power in battle... can't really say.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
    Does Konan have the Paper Ocean technique? If so, even Kisame would have a hard time trying to deal with six hundred billion paper tags...

    Said technique is much longer and deeper than Dai Bakusui Shōha and if Kisame did use the aforementioned technique, he backs himself into a corner, since underwater explosions are much stronger.

    It's a case of whether she goes straight to that technique, if not, Kisame pawns.

    Supposing Kisame makes it past Konan, then yes, he stops at MS Obito and for Danzo, I also agree that he stops at Sandaime Raikage.
    I have to disagree with Konan at once because Kisame can protect himself with water and after all he has Samehada with him, btw shark attack would be too much for Konan to handle before using any paper explosion tags underwater.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    guys DSM kabuto can block out his vision so he doesnt get hit with KA
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod123 View Post
    I have to disagree with Konan at once because Kisame can protect himself with water and after all he has Samehada with him, btw shark attack would be too much for Konan to handle before using any paper explosion tags underwater.
    That's it though, being underwater makes it worse because unlike air, water won't absorb the pressure, it will instead carry it meaning Kisame would quite literally feel the full force of the explosions. 600,000,000,000 paper tags (That's 1,000,000,000 explosions every second) with Kisame surrounding himself in water only kills him quicker.

    Even Mr Haxxed was forced to use Izanagi.
     
         
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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Well it does depend on preperation. Kisame could lose to Konan if she has the paperbombs which she used adainst obito. Otherwise he loses at Kamui Obito.
    Danzo loses to Deidara... Tbh i think danzo is overrated and Deidara is underrated. (because i do not include KA in this... Because he could only use it once... so if u want to count it he loses to the 3rd raikage)
     
         
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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3MESSIAH View Post
    guys DSM kabuto can block out his vision so he doesnt get hit with KA
    You know what guy? KA doesnt need eye contact....
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    EMS Madara and DSM Kabuto stomps Danzo.Kisame list seems good.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Kisame stops at Obito.
    Danzo stops at the Raikage or Kabuto.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Rob View Post
    You know what guy? KA doesnt need eye contact....
    visual genjutsu that doesnt need eye contact.....

    izanami is the only such genjutsu. KA needs eye contact
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3MESSIAH View Post
    visual genjutsu that doesnt need eye contact.....

    izanami is the only such genjutsu. KA needs eye contact
    As much as i know it doesnt and if it does so why the hell its calling most powerful genjutsu and not Tsukuyomi?
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Rob View Post
    As much as i know it doesnt and if it does so why the hell its calling most powerful genjutsu and not Tsukuyomi?
    nowhere in the manga is it stated that it doesnt need eye contact.

    the reason why it is a better genjutsu is because the victim of the genjutsu doesnt even realize that he/she is under influence of it.you can practically order someone to kill themselves and they will do it without realizing it was a genjutsu..instead they will do it because they believe they wish to do it.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3MESSIAH View Post
    nowhere in the manga is it stated that it doesnt need eye contact.

    the reason why it is a better genjutsu is because the victim of the genjutsu doesnt even realize that he/she is under influence of it.you can practically order someone to kill themselves and they will do it without realizing it was a genjutsu..instead they will do it because they believe they wish to do it.
    He's right, when Danzo used KA at the summit, his eye was covered in bandages and when Itachi used it to negate Kabuto's control, he was a long way from him.
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
    He's right, when Danzo used KA at the summit, his eye was covered in bandages and when Itachi used it to negate Kabuto's control, he was a long way from him.
    good argument.....but it just cant be true.if that were true than danzo and shisui>>>NV.

    maybe danzo did sth what the manga didnt show(maybe he uncovered a bit of his bandages) or maybe if you look at his bandages the eye`s power can get you through the bandages?? i dont know,there should be some logical explanation to this.KA cant be that powerful



    it is shown here that the eye contact was required.the crow flew to itachi and itachi looked it in the eye...but danzo at the summit is still a puzzle to me
     
         
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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3MESSIAH View Post
    visual genjutsu that doesnt need eye contact.....

    izanami is the only such genjutsu. KA needs eye contact
    Danzō had bandages over his eye when he used it against Mifune at the Summit...

    OT: Kisame gets to and loses to MS Obito
    Danzō gets to and probably loses to 3rd Raikage
     
         

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    Re: How far can Kisame and Danzo go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    Danzō had bandages over his eye when he used it against Mifune at the Summit...

    OT: Kisame gets to and loses to MS Obito
    Danzō gets to and probably loses to 3rd Raikage
    that`s why i posted that maybe you dont need to look directly at his eye...maybe you just need to look in the direction where his eye is located...mifune may have looked at danzo`s bandages and the eye influenced him over the bandages...i dont know it`s just my theory but it is quite silly to think that KA can affect you just like that.it needs some eye contact IMO
     
         

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