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    Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    I'm sure that either Blackbeard or BigMum is the weakest yonkou coz:-
    Blackbeard is still new to the yonkou thing,
    BigMum has a less menacing reputation than Shanks and Kaidou, so..
    that being said, do you think Akainu can beat whoever you think the weakest yonkou is?
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    I think Akainu could take them all except maybe Shanks

    Big Mom's definitely the weakest imo
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    We know nothing about Big Mom.

    Blackbeard though. Hmm my intuition says Blackbeard but then again if he does take a hit he is pretty much done for. And Blackbeard always takes a hit during his fights so far. Maybe he can do something with Gura Gura though.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Purpz View Post
    I think Akainu could take them all except maybe Shanks

    Big Mom's definitely the weakest imo
    I personally think any yonkou is clearly stronger than any admiral..
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by TenzaZangetsu View Post
    I personally think any yonkou is clearly stronger than any admiral..
    Garp was just a VA

    I do think that Akainu is on Yonko lvl, he is not as strong as the strongest Yonko no but he IS the fleet admiral of the marines and one of the main enemies to Luffy, BB just captured Ace ... Akainu killed him
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenstein View Post
    We know nothing about Big Mom.

    Blackbeard though. Hmm my intuition says Blackbeard but then again if he does take a hit he is pretty much done for. And Blackbeard always takes a hit during his fights so far. Maybe he can do something with Gura Gura though.
    With yami-yami only blackbeard would be toast, but now that he has the gura gura I think he will win nut with a burn or two..
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Algalon View Post
    Garp was just a VA

    I do think that Akainu is on Yonko lvl, he is not as strong as the strongest Yonko no but he IS the fleet admiral of the marines and one of the main enemies to Luffy, BB just captured Ace ... Akainu killed him
    That's not so valid though. Capturing such a strong guy alive is more difficult than killing him. And after all capturing him means he beat him to submission, so he could have taken him out afterwards.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by TenzaZangetsu View Post
    I personally think any yonkou is clearly stronger than any admiral..
    Maybe, IDK, its pretty hard to rate any of them tho we really need to see at least one go all out man.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    I think BB is the weakest for now. Akainu can take both.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    We don't know a thing about BM but BB, so far he hasn't shown any form of Haki...

    Old WB's quake hits weren't enough to take down Akainu and with Haki, Akainu's gonna make a roasted crap out of BB...
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by TenzaZangetsu View Post
    With yami-yami only blackbeard would be toast, but now that he has the gura gura I think he will win nut with a burn or two..
    Akainu counters that with his Haki, heck he even survived Haki imbued hits from WB let alone BB...
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenstein View Post
    That's not so valid though. Capturing such a strong guy alive is more difficult than killing him. And after all capturing him means he beat him to submission, so he could have taken him out afterwards.
    Indeed! I was kinda dissapointed by Ace being physically so weak, he couldn't even block or punch back..
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFang View Post
    We don't know a thing about BM but BB, so far he hasn't shown any form of Haki...

    Old WB's quake hits weren't enough to take down Akainu and with Haki, Akainu's gonna make a roasted crap out of BB...
    Akainu only lived coz he fell down a ditch, otherwise Whitebeard would have finished him off. Quake attacks from Blackbeard will soon wear Akainu out, gura gura is OP..
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Admirals are yonko level. Yonko are admiral. It's the same shit. Neither group creates a level because they are stronger than the other group. It's the same shit.

    OT: Akainu should be stronger than both of them. Blackbeard has most likely not reached his ultimate strength and Big Mom is most likely the weakest of the yonko along with Blackbeard.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hijey View Post
    Admirals are yonko level. Yonko are admiral. It's the same shit. Neither group creates a level because they are stronger than the other group. It's the same shit.

    OT: Akainu should be stronger than both of them. Blackbeard has most likely not reached his ultimate strength and Big Mom is most likely the weakest of the yonko along with Blackbeard.
    An old sick Whitebeard smacked around Akainu, what makes you think a bonafide yonkou can't fight evenly with an old sick Whitebeard? Thus an admiral will get mid-diffed by a yonkou at best..
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by TenzaZangetsu View Post
    An old sick Whitebeard smacked around Akainu
    After WB got in a sneak attack on him. Up until then, they were evenly matched.

    what makes you think a bonafide yonkou can't fight evenly with an old sick Whitebeard?
    I never said otherwise.

    Thus an admiral will get mid-diffed by a yonkou at best..
    Baseless and horrid claim.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hijey View Post
    After WB got in a sneak attack on him. Up until then, they were evenly matched.


    I never said otherwise.


    Baseless and horrid claim.
    It takes 4 admirals + 7 shichibukai(one of which being yonkou level, MiHawk) in order to balance out 4 yonkou, what makes you think 1 admiral = yonkou?
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenstein View Post
    That's not so valid though. Capturing such a strong guy alive is more difficult than killing him. And after all capturing him means he beat him to submission, so he could have taken him out afterwards.
    the ''Akainu killed him'' bit wasn't to show the strength of Akainu or BB but to emphasize that Akainu is one of Luffys main enemies
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by TenzaZangetsu View Post
    Indeed! I was kinda dissapointed by Ace being physically so weak, he couldn't even block or punch back..
    ace wasnt physically weak.
    1. BB Was physically stronger
    2. Ace just Spams his DF
    3. Remember when he was 10 he kicked a tree down at luffy. imagine his Physical power if he actually used it.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    IMO as of now Akainu ./= BB and is < BM.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by GenKiDama View Post
    ace wasnt physically weak.
    1. BB Was physically stronger
    2. Ace just Spams his DF
    3. Remember when he was 10 he kicked a tree down at luffy. imagine his Physical power if he actually used it.
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    Blackbeard: "Kurouzu!"...*punches Ace*
    Ace: *gets up* "pfft, do you really think I can't fight without my DF?!?" *charges at him and does some damage*
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by TenzaZangetsu View Post
    An old sick Whitebeard smacked around Akainu
    While getting half of his face blown off and a massive hole in his stomach. It's not like Whitebeard came out unharmed even in his rage mode not to mention Whitebeard would have went down if it wasn't for Ace's death.

    What makes you think a bonafide yonkou can't fight evenly with an old sick Whitebeard?
    Maybe due to the fact Whitebeard was the strongest out of the Yonkou. The Yonkou's haven't got the exact same strength as each other you know.

    Thus an admiral will get mid-diffed by a yonkou at best..
    Not really Whitebeard did not mid-diff Akainu so I don't see Big Mam, Teach, Kaidou or Shanks being able to mid diff an Admiral.

    Anyway onto the original question I think Akainu could defeat Big Mam in a 1 on 1 fight and at the moment he could defeat Teach as well but at some point Blackbeard will surpass Akainu probably later on in the series.
     
         

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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by TenzaZangetsu View Post
    It takes 4 admirals + 7 shichibukai(one of which being yonkou level, MiHawk) in order to balance out 4 yonkou, what makes you think 1 admiral = yonkou?
    but the 4 Yonko all have their crews, WB has Marco and Shanks has Backman, both of which imo are about admiral lvl themselves

    also, most Sichibukai don't even really count, the only credible ones compared to a yonko are Mihawk, Doflamingo and maybe Kuma

    than there was Akainu, Aokiji and Kizaru ... now Fujitora, Kizaru and GreenBull

    and the biggest guns were Sengoku and Garp ... now Akainu

    so that would now make Akainu, Kizaru, Fujitora, GreenBull, Mihawk, Doflamingo and Kuma to counter Shanks, Ben Backman, Teach, Kaido, Big Mam and all of their first mates which should be at least somewhat close to Marco lvl, also ... you know, the rest of their crews

    it's not like 7 sichi + admirals are there to balance out just 4 yonko
     
         
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    Re: Akainu vs Big Mum/Blackbeard?? Who's stronger?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHokage View Post
    While getting half of his face blown off and a massive hole in his stomach. It's not like Whitebeard came out unharmed even in his rage mode not to mention Whitebeard would have went down if it wasn't for Ace's death.



    Maybe due to the fact Whitebeard was the strongest out of the Yonkou. The Yonkou's haven't got the exact same strength as each other you know.



    Not really Whitebeard did not mid-diff Akainu so I don't see Big Mam, Teach, Kaidou or Shanks being able to mid diff an Admiral.

    Anyway onto the original question I think Akainu could defeat Big Mam in a 1 on 1 fight and at the moment he could defeat Teach as well but at some point Blackbeard will surpass Akainu probably later on in the series.
    Whitebeards holes in his body weren't caused by Akainu, also, Whitebeard fought plenty more times after getting magma shoved into his holed chest including fodderising Blackbeard, so no, he would've gotten up even if it wasn't Ace.
    Its expected that that his advanced age and sickness would even out the odds with a yonkou(during his prime it would obviously be hopeless) but Admirals would still get wrecked..
     
         

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