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    A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    A friend of mine in the "other Naruto forum" pointed out that if Naruto does receive Yin Kurama, it might not (according to him) be sufficient to save Naruto.

    Kushina had Kurama extracted from her, but she planned to reseal Kurama inside her again so it will die with her, which Minato rejected because he said the balance of the Bijūs would be upset with the "death" of Kurama (albeit temporarily)

    But the point is, if a Bijū was extracted then resealed back to its Jinchūriki, the Jin will still die, so if Naruto receives Yin Kurama after Yang Kurama was extracted from him it might not be sufficient to save his life.

    The only solution to this dilemma would be the existence of a "special case" (like Obito's wherein extraction of Juubi will not result in its Jin's death because of the Gedo Mazo's life force) wherein the mechanics are different since Kurama was split in half and giving Naruto the other half of the Kyūbi when his half was extracted would be able to save his life, thoughts?
     
         
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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    He's going to survive regardless seeing how he's an uzumaki and uzumaki's can survive extractions.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    That might be true . And we are talking about the main character here so some sort of special thing you stated is gonna happen and He will not die .
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    May be possible .
    I guess you're right special case will save naruto
    Since he is main character
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Actually. Disagree. Kushina gave birth while the bijuu was extracted. If she would have died by exhaustion fighting and pulling the 9tails back in. Which 99taild was not tamed at that ti.me. but now he is tamed.

    -kushina gave birth
    -kushina had kurama extracted from her
    - she was already exhausted to fight kurama
    -kurama wasnt tamed then.
     
         
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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    i don't think that Minato will give that 50% chakra to Naruto... not yet that is...
    IF Naruto entered Biju Mode again... 100% of Kurama would be gone... (if you know what i mean)
    Kurama had an idea and he shared the idea with Gaara and i don't know what it is... but i sure know it's not to take Naruto to Minato ...well if he did take Naruto to Minato, it would not be to re-seal Kurama inside Naruto... that's for sure!

    we'll just have to wait and see... i personally think that Rikudou Sennin is the only person that can save Naruto at this moment... because after all... Naruto is the Reincarnation of Rikudou Sennin. therefore Naruto should be able to connect with his former spiritual soul or whatever

    and oh: Even Kakashi met his father on his deathbed...
     
         
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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Im telling you guy Garra will feed him the fruit
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    I Agree with everstar, Giving kurama back wont change his situation - Madara will just suck it out of him.

    In addition, I do not believe sealing the other will save his life in anyway, on the contrary I think it will kill him faster. Howver Naruto is not done with his pal kyuubi yet, when the time is right, he will regain kyuubi, in addition Minato will give him the other half - as we have yet to see the full kyuubis power
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by everztar View Post
    i don't think that Minato will give that 50% chakra to Naruto... not yet that is...IF Naruto entered Biju Mode again... 100% of Kurama would be gone... (if you know what i mean)Kurama had an idea and he shared the idea with Gaara and i don't know what it is... but i sure know it's not to take Naruto to Minato ...well if he did take Naruto to Minato, it would not be to re-seal Kurama inside Naruto... that's for sure!we'll just have to wait and see... i personally think that Rikudou Sennin is the only person that can save Naruto at this moment... because after all... Naruto is the Reincarnation of Rikudou Sennin. therefore Naruto should be able to connect with his former spiritual soul or whatever and oh: Even Kakashi met his father on his deathbed...
    this ^
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    I thought this was obvious? I stated this since the first day Naruto got Kyubi extracted from him and i already know Kurama's plan
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    He's going to survive regardless seeing how he's an uzumaki and uzumaki's can survive extractions.
    Didnt you read his post? No, they cant survive extraction, Kushina just didnt die instantly.

    OP: Good observation.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    Didnt you read his post? No, they cant survive extraction, Kushina just didnt die instantly.

    OP: Good observation.
    Thank you.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Kishi does not work on logic or any form of common sense related type of thing so he will troll us with something out of the blue.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    A friend of mine in the "other Naruto forum" pointed out that if Naruto does receive Yin Kurama, it might not (according to him) be sufficient to save Naruto.

    Kushina had Kurama extracted from her, but she planned to reseal Kurama inside her again so it will die with her, which Minato rejected because he said the balance of the Bijūs would be upset with the "death" of Kurama (albeit temporarily)

    But the point is, if a Bijū was extracted then resealed back to its Jinchūriki, the Jin will still die, so if Naruto receives Yin Kurama after Yang Kurama was extracted from him it might not be sufficient to save his life.

    The only solution to this dilemma would be the existence of a "special case" (like Obito's wherein extraction of Juubi will not result in its Jin's death because of the Gedo Mazo's life force) wherein the mechanics are different since Kurama was split in half and giving Naruto the other half of the Kyūbi when his half was extracted would be able to save his life, thoughts?
    I think that is definitely what Kishi is setting us up for. Yin kurama must be included as a special case so Naruto will benefit from receiving him.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by x44jackal44x View Post
    I think that is definitely what Kishi is setting us up for. Yin kurama must be included as a special case so Naruto will benefit from receiving him.
    The question in other people's minds though is will that be an enough powerup for Naruto to contend with Madara?
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    I proposed a similar concept when people were discussing this earlier. For one, he won't survive the re-sealing, and it won't be enough to contend with Madara AT ALL. I see Naruto eating the Shinju's fruit.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Transcendence View Post
    I proposed a similar concept when people were discussing this earlier. For one, he won't survive the re-sealing, and it won't be enough to contend with Madara AT ALL. I see Naruto eating the Shinju's fruit.
    Is the Fruit out yet? although I think it's about to emerge if we add Fukasaku's age + 200 years in the current timeline.
     
         
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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Derp Obito View Post
    Is the Fruit out yet? although I think it's about to emerge if we add Fukasaku's age + 200 years in the current timeline.
    Not just the timeline concept. Madara is giving more Bijuu chakra than last time. It should immediately sprout if anything.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Transcendence View Post
    Not just the timeline concept. Madara is giving more Bijuu chakra than last time. It should immediately sprout if anything.
    Well Fukasaku is 800 years old and he thought the Sage was a myth, so it stands to reason that 200 years prior to his birth the Fruit emerged because Madara said it comes out every millenium, if the current timeline is Fukasaku's age + 200 years, then a millenium has passed already, so the fruit might emerge soon.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    The other potential solution I see is the link intrinsically shared by Naruto and Gaara.

    It was Naruto who imparted some of his life force (or Chakra - that part seemed ambiguous), along with Chiyo, to save Gaara following his own extraction.

    It is quite possible that Gaara will attempt the same (or something similar).

    Predicting the course of Naruto universe events is a bit unusual. Kishimoto can pull stuff out of nowhere without much warning or pretext leading up to it. "That giant world-destroying monster? It's a ****ing tree. The Rinnegan? Dude ate an apple."

    A lot of ideas seem equally plausible and possible and Kishimoto will decide to introduce new lore for the sake of making us tilt our heads in "WTF" expressions.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Getting yin kurama at his current condition is an dumb idea, I'd like it if naruto got revitalised by the fruit or something..
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftNinja View Post
    Getting yin kurama at his current condition is an dumb idea, I'd like it if naruto got revitalised by the fruit or something..
    I am not sure the fruit would actually end up saving him, though.

    The theme has, somewhat, been that of 'the power of having friends.' I would imagine that will play a larger role in his immediate salvation from extraction-death than anything else.

    Now... "Main character eats totally-awesome-sweet-supersaiyan fruit" is just straight-forward enough for it to work as a "defeat Madara" plan.

    It would just be absolutely hilarious if Hinata eats the fruit, becomes all-powerful, and it is Naruto who assumes the Yin role in the whole Yin-Yang thing they have going on.
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Aim64C View Post
    I am not sure the fruit would actually end up saving him, though.

    The theme has, somewhat, been that of 'the power of having friends.' I would imagine that will play a larger role in his immediate salvation from extraction-death than anything else.

    Now... "Main character eats totally-awesome-sweet-supersaiyan fruit" is just straight-forward enough for it to work as a "defeat Madara" plan.

    It would just be absolutely hilarious if Hinata eats the fruit, becomes all-powerful, and it is Naruto who assumes the Yin role in the whole Yin-Yang thing they have going on.
    Well, I guess the"powah of friendshipz" can save him.... hinata would be the strongest female character in nardo if she did that
     
         

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    Re: A point of contention with the Naruto receiving Yin Kurama Theory

    It would be lame if sealing the Yin Half was enough to save Naruto anyway, not to mention way too easy.
     
         

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