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    How could Sarutobi?


    So Kakashi said when he was training Naruto that a person can't use the 5 nature transformation

    But here you can see Sarutobi using it:



    How did he do it? Give me your ideas
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    He said nothing of the sort. It's very possible, it just takes a lot of time.
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Its very possible. Kakuzu likely had them all
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    maybe Kakashi didn't know?

    just like when Kakashi thought you needed to look into Itachi's eyes to be trapped in his genjutsu.

    Kakashi can be wrong, everyone can be wrong.
     
         
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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by everztar View Post
    maybe Kakashi didn't know?

    just like when Kakashi thought you needed to look into Itachi's eyes to be trapped in his genjutsu.

    Kakashi can be wrong, everyone can be wrong.
    True that. My bad but kakashi like itachi became Anbu member [high jounin] when he was quite young
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by everztar View Post
    maybe Kakashi didn't know?

    just like when Kakashi thought you needed to look into Itachi's eyes to be trapped in his genjutsu.

    Kakashi can be wrong, everyone can be wrong.
    Like she says Kakashi can be wrong ( Tell Naruto to stop pointing at me, it is rude )
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by SIXPATHSSENNIN View Post
    Like she says Kakashi can be wrong ( Tell Naruto to stop pointing at me, it is rude )
    He's not pointing at you, check again! :c
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Well he was meant to be a professor right? and also know all the jutsu in Konoha?

    Then i'd presume with knowing all jutsu in konoha he'd somehow be able to use all 5 nature types because konoha is built upon many different small clans and they each have their own nature type and abilities
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Because God of Shinobi, that's why.
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Sarutobi had the time since 1999 to train.. Don't blame the old fart.
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    He said it was impossible to master all five nature transformations, not use them.
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
    He said it was impossible to master all five nature transformations, not use them.
    seems someone reads the manga around here, thanks god

    kakashi was talking about nature manipulation

    kakashi himself use lightning,earth,water
    but lightning is what he can manipulate
    other he only do shape manipulation
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by phantomlord22 View Post
    seems someone reads the manga around here, thanks god

    kakashi was talking about nature manipulation

    kakashi himself use lightning,earth,water
    but lightning is what he can manipulate
    other he only do shape manipulation
    Don't forget in the canon anime he used fireball Justus against Sakura and naruto.
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    ditto

    Kakashi was speaking about Mastering them

    We know Hiruzen can use x 5 nature elements at least, but thats all we know, not what level
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Now it impossible to learn all 6 natures without the Rinnegan
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meekz89 View Post
    Now it impossible to learn all 6 natures without the Rinnegan
    can you show me a scan, [just need to see], because the one i have seen Jiraya said it was ''Unprecedented'', meaning not done before
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto D Luffy View Post

    So Kakashi said when he was training Naruto that a person can't use the 5 nature transformation

    But here you can see Sarutobi using it:



    How did he do it? Give me your ideas
    Sarutobi is really something else.. beyond the comprehension of Kakashi.

    The answer to your question is simple. Sarutobi is the smartest of all Hokage, the Einstein of the Shinobi world. He knows 1000 jutsu, right? Half of this could be all taboo and forbidden.

    Of course Kakashi would not know this, because his love interest is Icha-icha novels by Pervert Jiraiya Sensei.. rock n roll!
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    To the OP, Kakashi never said someone couldn't learn all 5, he only said that most Jonin know 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meekz89 View Post
    Don't forget in the canon anime he used fireball Justus against Sakura and naruto.
    Uhm... no that was 100% not canon. He only has Lightning, Water, & Earth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Samater View Post
    can you show me a scan, [just need to see], because the one i have seen Jiraya said it was ''Unprecedented'', meaning not done before
    1) you shouldn't take direct quotes from a translation too literally.]

    2) unprecedented can also mean unparalleled, mean he is the only one who can master all 5 at that level.

    3) Juriya could have been considering the age Nagato was when he was able to master all 5.
     
         
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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by everztar View Post
    maybe Kakashi didn't know?

    just like when Kakashi thought you needed to look into Itachi's eyes to be trapped in his genjutsu.

    Kakashi can be wrong, everyone can be wrong.
    This actually sums up everything that anyone is about to say.

    If you're going soley on Kakashi's words.

    +rep
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meekz89 View Post
    Now it impossible to learn all 6 natures without the Rinnegan
    Hiruzen knows all six types

    Fire
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    Lightning
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    Yin-yang (which is shadow clones)
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Blades of Chaos View Post
    Because God of Shinobi, that's why.
    this right here
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Hiruzen also said the death reaper seal was permanent. Don't trust what random shinobi says, anything is possible...
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Kishimoto.
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Because Hiruzen is the God of Shinobi.
     
         

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    Re: How could Sarutobi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto D Luffy View Post

    So Kakashi said when he was training Naruto that a person can't use the 5 nature transformation

    But here you can see Sarutobi using it:



    How did he do it? Give me your ideas
    The issue comes in your premise, Kakashi saying that a person can only have 2 Elements. What he actually said was that "Most Jounin have mastered 2 Elements", We also know that Kakashi can use 4 Types of elements. (Earth, Lightning, Fire and Water) But this is because of him using his Sharingan, but nonetheless we know it is possible for him to use atleast 4 different elements. With that said it stands to reason that Hiruzen could use all 5.

    Lets not forget about the hidden KKG of the Sarutobi's which is that they are able to learn high ranked Jutsu fairly easy. Hiruzen was able to learn every Jutsu in the village and 5 elements and Konohamaru was able to learn Master Shadow Clone and Rasengan at an extremely young age. And lets not forget Asuma who achieved many feats in his own right.
     
         

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