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    Hiruzen is a planet buster


    The rotational energy or angular kinetic energy is the kinetic energy due to the rotation of an object and is part of its total kinetic energy. Looking at rotational energy separately around an object's axis of rotation, one gets the following dependence on the object's moment of inertia:

    E = ½mv²

    Where E is the kinetic energy, m is the mass, and v is the velocity.

    The mechanical work required for inertia applied during rotation is the torque times the rotation angle. The instantaneous power of an angularity accelerating body is the torque times the angular velocity. For free-floating (unattached) objects, such as a staff, the axis of rotation is commonly around its center of mass.

    We have not seen any limit for how long Hiruzen's staff can extend, so in theory we can write:

    0 < x < ∞∀ ℝ

    Where x = the size of Hiruzen's staff.

    As Hiruzen's staff increases in size, the mass, m, of the object tends to infinity and hence the kinetic energy, E, also tends to infinity.

    The amount of energy required to destroy the Earth is 210,000,000,000,000,000,000 joule. Assuming that Hiruzen drops his staff (velocity = 9.8m/s due to gravity), then the mass of his staff would need to be 4,373,177,842,565,600,000 kilograms.

    And because 4,373,177,842,565,600,000 < ∞ , it follows that x, the size of Hiruzen's staff, can also equal 4,373,177,842,565,600,000.


    Conclusion:
    Hiruzen is a planet buster.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    This thread is going to get closed soon, mods seem to be getting tired of all this Hiruzen/Spiral Zetsu stuff.

    Sidenote: Hiruzen looks weird in your sig.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    I think that makes Enma a planet buster.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Not even close. Good try tho.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    I'd also at that since x^5 are all elements, the probalibity that would destroy planet is easily logic.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    You can poke a two-foot wide staff into the Earth's core, but it's still not going to collapse from being poked by a two-foot long staff

    I'd also at that since x^5 are all elements, the probalibity that would destroy planet is easily logic.
    Hiruzen's staff is a hextagonal integral?

    Seriously though, OP fail logic.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    why would someone waste his time to write all that wall of text on a troll thread
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    After a certain distance( > 1000miles) hiruzen's staff will be too long for it to not be touching the earth at both ends. it will never bust the planet.
     
         

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    an educated troll, how original
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Slender Man View Post

    The rotational energy or angular kinetic energy is the kinetic energy due to the rotation of an object and is part of its total kinetic energy. Looking at rotational energy separately around an object's axis of rotation, one gets the following dependence on the object's moment of inertia:

    E = ½mv²

    Where E is the kinetic energy, m is the mass, and v is the velocity.

    The mechanical work required for inertia applied during rotation is the torque times the rotation angle. The instantaneous power of an angularity accelerating body is the torque times the angular velocity. For free-floating (unattached) objects, such as a staff, the axis of rotation is commonly around its center of mass.

    We have not seen any limit for how long Hiruzen's staff can extend, so in theory we can write:

    0 < x < ∞∀ ℝ

    Where x = the size of Hiruzen's staff.

    As Hiruzen's staff increases in size, the mass, m, of the object tends to infinity and hence the kinetic energy, E, also tends to infinity.

    The amount of energy required to destroy the Earth is 210,000,000,000,000,000,000 joule. Assuming that Hiruzen drops his staff (velocity = 9.8m/s due to gravity), then the mass of his staff would need to be 4,373,177,842,565,600,000 kilograms.

    And because 4,373,177,842,565,600,000 < ∞ , it follows that x, the size of Hiruzen's staff, can also equal 4,373,177,842,565,600,000.


    Conclusion:
    Hiruzen is a planet buster.
    No limits fallacy?
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Bullshit thread, the GBE of Earth is 57.3 Zettaton or 239743199999666270000000000000000 Joules.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Dat calculations
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
    This thread is going to get closed soon, mods seem to be getting tired of all this Hiruzen/Spiral Zetsu stuff.

    Sidenote: Hiruzen looks weird in your sig.
    They close all threads now and yeah hiruzen looks really weird in your SIG
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    The staff doesn't gain any mass, otherwise Hiruzen would not be able to hold it. Simple as that.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Kakashi Hatakeo View Post
    They close all threads now and yeah hiruzen looks really weird in your SIG
    He looks constipated.

    Well, he was 69, problems like these are bound to occur.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Hiruzen is beyond planet buster.

    Hiruzen has mastered every jutsu from konoha. Therefore, he knows shinsuusenju, PS, bijuu dama(naruto) and many other techniques.(manga fact) So:

    Hiruzen= Hashirama + madara+ naruto + obito(jin and not jin, he is still from konoha) + sasuke + itachi + ...
    Hiruzen= All shinobis from konoha together (I)

    Ok, so we got equation I that proves that hiruzen is actually the strongest hokage. Now, let's see this: Hiruzen is also a shinobi from konoha, with his own techniques. So, we have to include him in the equation:

    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + all other shinobis from konoha (II)

    However, let's see this. If Hiruzen= hiruzen + shinobis, then we can replace hiruzen by his value. So, we get:

    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + all other shinobis from konoha + all shinobis from konoha
    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + 2(all other shinobis from konoha)(III)

    As one can see, we can keep replacing hiruzen. Therefore, we'll get

    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + n(all other shinobis from konoha)/ n Є Z+, n →+∞ (IV)

    With equation (IV), we conclude that hiruzen's power is infinite
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganisOP View Post
    The staff doesn't gain any mass, otherwise Hiruzen would not be able to hold it. Simple as that.
    You're underestimating hiruzen's strength, man. The guy is like the hulk, didn't you see the 6 packs?
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    yeah bra.. its threads like these that i need to like be thankful for..

    make me realize i should be logged out and collecting your grandmother's benefits
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    This Hiruzen stuff is getting kind of out of hand. **** we don't even get a chapter this week so it's only gonna continue -_-
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfus View Post
    You're underestimating hiruzen's strength, man. The guy is like the hulk, didn't you see the 6 packs?
    Not underestimating his strength at all. You are kidding yourself if you think he can carry an object that gains mass as it extends, especially since the further away the weight of something is the harder it will be to hold. Definitely not like the hulk, even Hiruzen's knowledge can't transcend Universes.

    Also I would like to say this. Itachi is also above Hiruzen in planet busting status by your logic. Totsuka can seal anything. Enma is something, if enma's mass tends towards infinity then so does his energy. Totsuka therefore can seal infinite amounts of energy that can planet bust and stop hiruzen from planet busting. Since he can seal something capable of planet busting with totsuka, totsuka therefore has the ability to seal the planet. All while stopping hiruzen from planet busting. Itachi> All forms of Hirzuen. GG.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganisOP View Post
    Not underestimating his strength at all. You are kidding yourself if you think he can carry an object that gains mass as it extends, especially since the further away the weight of something is the harder it will be to hold. Definitely not like the hulk, even Hiruzen's knowledge can't transcend Universes.

    Also I would like to say this. Itachi is also above Hiruzen in planet busting status by your logic. Totsuka can seal anything. Enma is something, if enma's mass tends towards infinity then so does his energy. Totsuka therefore can seal infinite amounts of energy that can planet bust and stop hiruzen from planet busting. Since he can seal something capable of planet busting with totsuka, totsuka therefore has the ability to seal the planet. All while stopping hiruzen from planet busting. Itachi> All forms of Hirzuen. GG.
    Nah, he's like the hulk. It's manga fact.

    But who said totsuka can pierce enma, huh? Ha, got you know.

    It's impossible for itachi to be> hiruzen

    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + n(all other shinobis from konoha)/ n Є Z+, n →+∞ (IV) And itachi is a shinobi from konoha. The only thing hiruzen doesn't have is totsuka+ yata, but he has PS. Totsuka ain't be piercing PS.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfus View Post
    Hiruzen is beyond planet buster.

    Hiruzen has mastered every jutsu from konoha. Therefore, he knows shinsuusenju, PS, bijuu dama(naruto) and many other techniques.(manga fact) So:

    Hiruzen= Hashirama + madara+ naruto + obito(jin and not jin, he is still from konoha) + sasuke + itachi + ...
    Hiruzen= All shinobis from konoha together (I)

    Ok, so we got equation I that proves that hiruzen is actually the strongest hokage. Now, let's see this: Hiruzen is also a shinobi from konoha, with his own techniques. So, we have to include him in the equation:

    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + all other shinobis from konoha (II)

    However, let's see this. If Hiruzen= hiruzen + shinobis, then we can replace hiruzen by his value. So, we get:

    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + all other shinobis from konoha + all shinobis from konoha
    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + 2(all other shinobis from konoha)(III)

    As one can see, we can keep replacing hiruzen. Therefore, we'll get

    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + n(all other shinobis from konoha)/ n Є Z+, n →+∞ (IV)

    With equation (IV), we conclude that hiruzen's power is infinite
    This^^^^^^^^^^^^
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfus View Post
    Nah, he's like the hulk. It's manga fact.

    But who said totsuka can pierce enma, huh? Ha, got you know.

    It's impossible for itachi to be> hiruzen

    Hiruzen= Hiruzen + n(all other shinobis from konoha)/ n Є Z+, n →+∞ (IV) And itachi is a shinobi from konoha. The only thing hiruzen doesn't have is totsuka+ yata, but he has PS. Totsuka ain't be piercing PS.
    Who says totsuka can't pierce enma or PS? It has cut everything it has tried to cut/pierce so far, therefore in theory it could pierce anything. Also It can definitely pierce hiruzen, since he is just a lowly human and therefore by your calculations carries infinity because Hiruzen= infinity/tends to infinity. Anyways Totsuka can seal anything it pierces, pierces the ground of the planet then the planet is sealed.

    Also Itachi is clearly > Hiruzen. No matter how you try and put it, Invincible is > infinity. And Itachi is invincible.
     
         

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    Re: Hiruzen is a planet buster

    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganisOP View Post
    Who says totsuka can't pierce enma or PS? It has cut everything it has tried to cut/pierce so far, therefore in theory it could pierce anything. Also It can definitely pierce hiruzen, since he is just a lowly human and therefore by your calculations carries infinity because Hiruzen= infinity/tends to infinity. Anyways Totsuka can seal anything it pierces, pierces the ground of the planet then the planet is sealed.

    Also Itachi is clearly > Hiruzen. No matter how you try and put it, Invincible is > infinity. And Itachi is invincible.
    Hiruzen is far from a planet buster and Itachi is far from invincible
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