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    Weird coincidence

    Why is it that naruto's whirlpool symbol, the elder son's eyes, and tobi's mask all have an identical spiral pattern? Any theories or ideas? Seems to much of a coincidence that kishi keeps using this symbol. Maybe uzamaki are both uchiha and senju? Who knows lol.
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Naruto's whirlpool symbol is the Uzumaki clan symbol. Uzumaki also means whirpool, right? And there was the Land of whirlpools, right?
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Here come the Rikudou Uzumaki theorists.
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Shut up .
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Sir Derp Obito has a theory on that.

    I am not sure if he 'published' it, or not, yet - so I won't reveal too much of it... but it ties into Origins according to the Shinto gods/goddesses.

    Ah, yes, here it is: http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=452056
     
         
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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Let's not revisit this.
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    excuze me, i think uzumakiz are fr0m the hidden eddie village of the land of eddies...
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Because Kishi ran out of symbols to use.
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    i don't think there's connection between these spirals
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    The only thing weird here to me is that:
    1. I am fanboying the gal in my avatar over Hēi
    2. You just realized this by now.
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Just coincidences.

    But dude, this is a serious coincidence, it's real freaky:

     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Blades of Chaos View Post
    Because Kishi ran out of symbols to use.
    This would be quite unlikely.

    Many authors - particularly the graphical variety - love symbolism both literal and figurative. There is no question as to what influences/inspiration Kishimoto is drawing from.

    The question is in which direction(s) he will allow it to be expressed within Naruto.

    Izanami, for example, was not what I would have expected. Izanagi rejected death at every turn and fled from it. This was reflected very well in the eye technique bearing his name. Izanami, on the other hand, embraced death and mortality - attempting to ensnare Izanagi within a loose concept of Hades (alternatively, one could simply see it as mortality). While the eye technique created by Kishimoto to represent Izanami does link in to the lore... it seems completely underwhelming by comparison. I would have figured Izanami would have been a temporary nullification of all Genjutsu or a genjutsu that binds the life of one to another (similar to the Shinigami/Reaper) symbolizing more the spirit of embracing mortality/death as opposed to rejecting it.

    Kishimoto's implementation of Izanami was entirely different and seemed to be over-complicated for an effect that was really only useful on people suffering an identity crisis or Sharingan-Spiders spamming Izanagi (because apparently there were a lot of Uchiha with the Mangekyo Sharingan, Senju DNA, and enough eyes to make Izanagi a serious problem).

    So it doesn't always work to infer that relative importance/function of the things Kishimoto draws inspiration from are a strong indicator of how things in Naruto will work.

    Though it does often work to predict what other concepts will end up being introduced as the story progresses. It's just when and exactly what those will be that is difficult to answer.
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    its just something kishi likes to use it doesnt mean theyre that much connected to each other
    rasengan also means spiral there's a part1 and part2 chapter in the war called whirling and enduring
    theres a lot of things with spirals
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    There are spirals all over naruto. Look behind the god tree, in or around the elder toad. Its like the manga uzumaki he might be obsessed with the swirl.
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Please no
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Illuminati reference within naruto
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Quote Originally Posted by Aim64C View Post
    This would be quite unlikely.

    Many authors - particularly the graphical variety - love symbolism both literal and figurative. There is no question as to what influences/inspiration Kishimoto is drawing from.

    The question is in which direction(s) he will allow it to be expressed within Naruto.

    Izanami, for example, was not what I would have expected. Izanagi rejected death at every turn and fled from it. This was reflected very well in the eye technique bearing his name. Izanami, on the other hand, embraced death and mortality - attempting to ensnare Izanagi within a loose concept of Hades (alternatively, one could simply see it as mortality). While the eye technique created by Kishimoto to represent Izanami does link in to the lore... it seems completely underwhelming by comparison. I would have figured Izanami would have been a temporary nullification of all Genjutsu or a genjutsu that binds the life of one to another (similar to the Shinigami/Reaper) symbolizing more the spirit of embracing mortality/death as opposed to rejecting it.

    Kishimoto's implementation of Izanami was entirely different and seemed to be over-complicated for an effect that was really only useful on people suffering an identity crisis or Sharingan-Spiders spamming Izanagi (because apparently there were a lot of Uchiha with the Mangekyo Sharingan, Senju DNA, and enough eyes to make Izanagi a serious problem).

    So it doesn't always work to infer that relative importance/function of the things Kishimoto draws inspiration from are a strong indicator of how things in Naruto will work.

    Though it does often work to predict what other concepts will end up being introduced as the story progresses. It's just when and exactly what those will be that is difficult to answer.
    What I like about this was that we never really payed attention to the fact that izanagi was such a problem would suggest that quite a few uchihas had mangekyo. So how many could have read the tablet.?
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    Quote Originally Posted by Aim64C View Post
    This would be quite unlikely.

    Many authors - particularly the graphical variety - love symbolism both literal and figurative. There is no question as to what influences/inspiration Kishimoto is drawing from.

    The question is in which direction(s) he will allow it to be expressed within Naruto.

    Izanami, for example, was not what I would have expected. Izanagi rejected death at every turn and fled from it. This was reflected very well in the eye technique bearing his name. Izanami, on the other hand, embraced death and mortality - attempting to ensnare Izanagi within a loose concept of Hades (alternatively, one could simply see it as mortality). While the eye technique created by Kishimoto to represent Izanami does link in to the lore... it seems completely underwhelming by comparison. I would have figured Izanami would have been a temporary nullification of all Genjutsu or a genjutsu that binds the life of one to another (similar to the Shinigami/Reaper) symbolizing more the spirit of embracing mortality/death as opposed to rejecting it.

    Kishimoto's implementation of Izanami was entirely different and seemed to be over-complicated for an effect that was really only useful on people suffering an identity crisis or Sharingan-Spiders spamming Izanagi (because apparently there were a lot of Uchiha with the Mangekyo Sharingan, Senju DNA, and enough eyes to make Izanagi a serious problem).

    So it doesn't always work to infer that relative importance/function of the things Kishimoto draws inspiration from are a strong indicator of how things in Naruto will work.

    Though it does often work to predict what other concepts will end up being introduced as the story progresses. It's just when and exactly what those will be that is difficult to answer.
    OH MY GOSH I WAS KIDDING, dont waste so much space on this thread. Bro some of us just like to have fun. Dont take everything so seriously. DAT BLOCK O TEXT.
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

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    Illuminati reference within naruto
    Show me .
     
         

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    Re: Weird coincidence

    The Elder Son's Eyes are merely the Sealed Doūjutsu of the Sharingan which later broke when the Elder Son felt hatred towards the Younger Son. It's not an evolution of the EMS nor is it a watered down version of the Rinnegan. It's simply the ocular manifestation of the seal.
     
         
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