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  • Shodaime Hashirama

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  • Nidaime Tobirama

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  • Sandaime Hiruzen

    10 13.51%
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    Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Tobirama, is he officially now the second strongest Hokage now? or no?


    Are the feat fans still gonna go on with the same argument? And be biased? Or are we admitting that there is a kind of a big gap between Tobirama and Minato, similar to Hashirama and Hiruzen?




    -Shadow clone
    -Edo tensei
    -Skills on the level of EMS Madara
    -HUGE chakra levels
    -FTG
    -Soul jutsu of Dan (or another soul transfer tech)
    -Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

    Also, if you notice the relationship of Minato and Tobirama is similar to Hiruzen and Hashirama (Not in a student teacher wise, but the roles wise).

    Descendant Hokages:
    Hiruzen = Strongest ninja of his time, huge scales of jutsu and so on

    Minato = Fastest ninja of his time, and a genius in creating and so on


    Ancestor Hokages:
    Hashirama = Strongest ninja of his time, jutsu on huge scales and so on

    Tobirama = Fastest ninja of his time and a genius in creating and so on.
    I'm interested on what NB's opinion is on this now?


    Hiruzen = Weaker version of Hashirama (not literally , but in a way)

    Minato = Weaker version of Tobirama (not literally, but in a way)



    I wanna see NB's opinion on this matter now.
     
         
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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    4th strongest imo
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Dude i will debate you all night on how Minato is not a weaker version of Tobirama
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fair Warning View Post
    Dude i will debate you all night on how Minato is not a weaker version of Tobirama
    lets go kiddo. You'll kind of lose after 1 post, just so you know.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    I find it interesting you gave him soul jutsu that Dan had.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Either Sarutobi or Tobirama
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Blades of Chaos View Post
    I find it interesting you gave him soul jutsu that Dan had.
    m, that is actually a speculation, i should have put that there. However, that is the only soul transfer technique we know of.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Technically yea

    Hashirama
    Tobirama/minato
    Hiruzen
    Tsunade
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    In literal seriousness, I Believe the Hokage's rankings are
    Hiruzen
    Hashi
    Minato
    Tobirama
    Tsunade

    (I know I Hiruzen troll a lot but Hiruzen is a very skilled shinobi and I think he is the Strongest Hokage)
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingFlawz View Post
    Technically yea

    Hashirama
    Tobirama/minato
    Hiruzen
    Tsunade
    Can't have 2 second strongest. Pick one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaney View Post
    In literal seriousness, I Believe the Hokage's rankings are
    Hiruzen
    Hashi
    Minato
    Tobirama
    Tsunade

    (I know I Hiruzen troll a lot but Hiruzen is a very skilled shinobi and I think he is the Strongest Hokage)
    nun wrong with that. Can totally see where you are coming from in regards to Hiruzen.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaney View Post
    In literal seriousness, I Believe the Hokage's rankings are
    Hiruzen
    Hashi
    Minato
    Tobirama
    Tsunade

    (I know I Hiruzen troll a lot but Hiruzen is a very skilled shinobi and I think he is the Strongest Hokage)
    ? Log out right now buddy.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    lets go kiddo. You'll kind of lose after 1 post, just so you know.
    1. Minato perfected Tobiramas FTG, look at space time barrier, kunai seals, mixing the seal into other seals and others chakra.
    2. Rasengan and its variants is more versatile and creative than anything Tobirama has created.
    3. Toad summons
    4. Tobirama could not have defeated Kurama and Obito
    5. Massive chakra pool even compared to Tobirama
    6. Ten times the reaction time of Tobirama as seen in his fight with Ay where he reacted in base mode to Ays fastest speed

    Come at me bro
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Tobirama, is he officially now the second strongest Hokage now? or no?


    Are the feat fans still gonna go on with the same argument? And be biased? Or are we admitting that there is a kind of a big gap between Tobirama and Minato, similar to Hashirama and Hiruzen?




    -Shadow clone
    -Edo tensei
    -Skills on the level of EMS Madara
    -HUGE chakra levels
    -FTG
    -Soul jutsu of Dan (or another soul transfer tech)
    -Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

    Also, if you notice the relationship of Minato and Tobirama is similar to Hiruzen and Hashirama (Not in a student teacher wise, but the roles wise).

    Descendant Hokages:
    Hiruzen = Strongest ninja of his time, huge scales of jutsu and so on

    Minato = Fastest ninja of his time, and a genius in creating and so on


    Ancestor Hokages:
    Hashirama = Strongest ninja of his time, jutsu on huge scales and so on

    Tobirama = Fastest ninja of his time and a genius in creating and so on.
    I'm interested on what NB's opinion is on this now?


    Hiruzen = Weaker version of Hashirama (not literally , but in a way)

    Minato = Weaker version of Tobirama (not literally, but in a way)



    I wanna see NB's opinion on this matter now.
    Are you sure?
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    "Strength isn't always about jutsu" I believe Hiruzen said that.
    Anyways, no.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaney View Post
    In literal seriousness, I Believe the Hokage's rankings are
    Hiruzen
    Hashi
    Minato
    Tobirama
    Tsunade

    (I know I Hiruzen troll a lot but Hiruzen is a very skilled shinobi and I think he is the Strongest Hokage)
    How can you Hiruzen troll alot when you only have 50 posts?

    Tobirama has more destructive techniques than Minato. But Minato has an improved version of Hiraishin and his space time barrier. So I'd say Tobirama is moer powerful and Minato is faster.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    -Shadow clone
    -Edo tensei
    -Skills on the level of EMS Madara
    -HUGE chakra levels
    -FTG -Soul jutsu of Dan
    -Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

    1: lol. That Is just...
    2: I'll give you that one
    3: that's why he's a human pin cushion
    4: true
    5: true
    6: you don't know the details of the jutsu he spoke of
    7: true


    Hiruzen Is the second best.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fair Warning View Post
    1. Minato perfected Tobiramas FTG, look at space time barrier, kunai seals, mixing the seal into other seals and others chakra.
    2. Rasengan and its variants is more versatile and creative than anything Tobirama has created.
    3. Toad summons
    4. Tobirama could not have defeated Kurama and Obito
    5. Massive chakra pool even compared to Tobirama
    6. Ten times the reaction time of Tobirama as seen in his right with Ay where he reacted in base mode to Ays fastest speed

    Come at me bro
    1. Nothing to perfect. He simply added on. Kunai seals.. nice adding seals on a paper that Tobirama could've done if he wanted to. Mizing the seals into other seals has no correlation with perfecting FTG.... your claim is not supported by your points here.

    2. Only 1 Rasengan he knows. Haven't seen any variants from him. And Tobirama's Edo tensei creation literally takes a dump on that.

    3. Toad summons, and i care for them why? good he has toads to help him out when he can't handle things. Nothing to do with being stronger.

    4. You sure are highly dellusional. Lets forget Kushina, who was equally responsible for its defeat (Chakra chains), and the village who held the 9-tails off. And no Tobirama would've been done with Obito quite easily actually.

    5. Average Kage chakra pool.. get real.

    6. Reacting to Jin Obito's blitz speed > reacting to Ay.. Anything else?


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    Are you sure?
    positive.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Cross View Post
    -Shadow clone
    -Edo tensei
    -Skills on the level of EMS Madara
    -HUGE chakra levels
    -FTG -Soul jutsu of Dan
    -Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

    1: lol. That Is just...
    2: I'll give you that one
    3: that's why he's a human pin cushion
    4: true
    5: true
    6: you don't know the details of the jutsu he spoke of
    7: true


    Hiruzen Is the second best.
    That Hiruzen wank.
    Anyways, I say Minato takes it more times then not
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    It's really hard to decide who's the strongest between Tobirama, Hiruzen, and Minato.

    I'll go with Tobirama though. Every line he gets, every action he gets, he's either showing something we've never seen or feeding us information.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    He couldn't fight 20 ninja with a team of 7. Also dan's jutsu isn't kinjutsu. Edo tensei is, thats what he was talking about. Tobirama is the second weakest hokage.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    You're not even stupid atm....you took a he say she say and added it to his feat....LOL!

    Sasuke can use sage mode then I guess, he can also use rasengan too...give it a rest.

    My answer is no, that ghost thing isn't even a feat, its basically just like that fodder sound girl and Ino, which is useless if you have FTG, enton, anything fast basically.

    Hashriama (hype wise)
    Minato (no BM)
    Tobirama/The third
    Tsunade
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    I honestly think it's a mistranslation. The Viz should clear things up though.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Tobirama, is he officially now the second strongest Hokage now? or no?


    Are the feat fans still gonna go on with the same argument? And be biased? Or are we admitting that there is a kind of a big gap between Tobirama and Minato, similar to Hashirama and Hiruzen?




    -Shadow clone
    -Edo tensei
    -Skills on the level of EMS Madara
    -HUGE chakra levels
    -FTG
    -Soul jutsu of Dan
    -Fighting jounin level ninja since they was kids

    Also, if you notice the relationship of Minato and Tobirama is similar to Hiruzen and Hashirama (Not in a student teacher wise, but the roles wise).

    Descendant Hokages:
    Hiruzen = Strongest ninja of his time, huge scales of jutsu and so on

    Minato = Fastest ninja of his time, and a genius in creating and so on


    Ancestor Hokages:
    Hashirama = Strongest ninja of his time, jutsu on huge scales and so on

    Tobirama = Fastest ninja of his time and a genius in creating and so on.
    I'm interested on what NB's opinion is on this now?


    Hiruzen = Weaker version of Hashirama (not literally , but in a way)

    Minato = Weaker version of Tobirama (not literally, but in a way)



    I wanna see NB's opinion on this matter now.
    how is minato a weaker version of tobirama??? both of their main jutsu is ftg there is only 2 ways to get better at ftg 1 is being faster 2 is using it more efficiently both which minato does...tobirama already said minato was faster than him, spped kill, tobirama has ccreated a lot of jutsu that are used with the current jutsu and he is a genius but minato is better than him since only times tobirama has used ftg is coming directly behind 1 time he killed his opponent and the 2nd time he got stomped, minato is very creative and has countering speed without using ftg like when he bee attack him with the tentacle from behind and he just dodged it...

    tobirama can use some water dragon jutsu has a slow ftg and kagebushin and a exploding tag jutsu, minato has ftg the best ftg and s/t barrier and summonig frog jutsu small to gamabunta and created a s-rank jutsu rasengan and can spam it instantly, one of the fastest base shinobi, might as well have sage mode level senses since he seems to be able to see shit coming and rds and is probably one of the smartest shinobi ever proof of that is he figured out the mechanics behind obito's kamui within mere moments and countered it following that while it took several high level so called geniuses years(itachi) who still had no answer for obito but vice versa as well and it took naruto, kakashi, guy, the kage's, and damn near every shinobi obito has ever contacted to finally hit him when the manga is near its end and only 2 minato did it once and damn near killed obito and made him flee...


    whether u want to admit it or not minato is better than tobirama, i knw tobirama is badass and he's hashirama brother and a senju and looks cool and has that badass demeanor but minato is better than him tobirama would never be able to hit minato if they would ever fight
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by IamtheGodofUchihaforever View Post
    He couldn't fight 20 ninja with a team of 7. Also dan's jutsu isn't kinjutsu. Edo tensei is, thats what he was talking about. Tobirama is the second weakest hokage.
    Edo tensei can't transfer souls like that.

    Kinjutsu = forbidden jutsu,

    Dan's jutsu has not been classified. Tho LOGICALLY, it would be a kinjutsu since it posses a great danger to the body of the user.
     
         

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    Re: Second strongest Hokage now? or not?

    Due to the debate right now undermining a SENJUS chakra pools is kinda funny.
    On chakra pools
    Tobirama > Minato.

    On skill and combat abilities due to current Manga Facts.
    I'd say that Minato would be the stronger fighter of them two.
    Due to the fact of Minato's perfection of tobiramas Justus.
    Tobirama, was more of the researcher type unlike his brother Hashi.

    Minato > Tobirama (but by how much IDK)
     
         

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