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    The truth about Snape

    im tired of people making excuses for him.
    yes he was a spy. but hes also a selfish bullying mindraping thug.
    he relentlessly bullied and beat down harry and neville, and mindraped harry out of spite for who his father is.
    he showed gross favouritism, looked the other way when slytherin did something nasty, probably would have let lily's famiyl die if it meant she alone survived, and basically ensured harry would be way more defenceless due to his attitude and unwillingness to help harry in any way other than just not killing him.

    why should this thug be declared heroic for being spiteful and selfish for most of his life, even joining Voldemort's ranks?
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    Without Snape, Voldemort would have won.
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

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    Without Snape, Voldemort would have won.
    Boom. Layin down the truth.

    FutureTrunks seems to hate any character with actual depth.
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    I think it's time for you go out more Ussj.
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    Man,you really need a better hobby.
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    Remember the cycle of hatred that Naruto loves to bring up every 20 chapters. Why did Severus exert his animosity towards Generation Two? Because the parents of Generation Two emotionally scarred him as a teenager. This is a natural, thus believable characteristic of Severus, which breathes life into his profile.
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    Snape hated and loved what harry represented, a love that was never his and a love that could have been. He protected harry because of the love for his mother and grew into loving harry as a son that should have been his. His bitterness towards harry dad cause him to be harsh to him yes, but it was only channeled to keep the truth of his real mission secret from harry and voldermort. Without which harry would have died many times over. Snape was harry's ultimate protector and truest friend.
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    what manga/anime are yall talkin bout
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    Without Snape, Voldemort would have won.
    so that means hes a noble nice and heroic man? without vegeta freeza would win. without doom, and a few others, galactus would destroy earth. this isnt the first time a selfish thug helps beat a bigger evil
    He protected harry
    no he didnt. he mindraped harry, made him feel worthless and relentlessly favoured slytherins over him. what did snape do that so perfectly ensured harry wouldnt die that was out of anyone elses control? harry/dumbledore/hermione protected harry. snape just made his life shit
    Without which harry would have died many times over. Snape was harry's ultimate protector and truest friend.
    snape mindraped harry for not living up to snapes high standards, tried to get him expelled for being a "troublemaker", called him lazy and aorrgant multiple times, blamed james for every little thing rather than seeing harry as his own man with his own ideals, bullied harry's friends, insulted hermione, blatantly ignored harry in favour of his own house and death eater buddies, bullied and despised harry's father figures, saw fit to incorrectly presume that dumbles knows whats best for harry and even knowingly abandoned harry to torment and abuse at the hands of the dursleys. if him and dumbles had just told him everything from the beginning and trained him properly, isnt that ultimate protection?
    Why did Severus exert his animosity towards Generation Two? Because the parents of Generation Two emotionally scarred him as a teenager. This is a natural, thus believable characteristic of Severus, which breathes life into his profile.
    i dont care. my argument is being a deep and complcated character doesnt excuse or justify his awful actions and personality

    FutureTrunks seems to hate any character with actual depth.
    i like akainu, hashirama, kabuto, obi wan, hermione,sakura and smoker
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    we know, we agree (except the the onyl good thing he did to defend Harry is not to kill him part, the onyl greater protectors of Harry were his mother and Dumbledore himself ... for example if it wasn't for Snape they would have ALL died at the ministry and Voldemort would rule Britain atm)

    but that does not change the fact that he is an awesome character and that the good side would have lost without him + he's less mean in the movies, he is a deep and interesting character and even if it was in a very weird wayhe did in fact care for Harry and would have died for him, not to mention he was arguably the most loyal man in HP, as well one of the bravest and one fo the greatest wizards to boot
     
         
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    Re: The truth about Snape

    but that does not change the fact that he is an awesome character and that the good side would have lost without him
    ive already explained how many villains choose to aid the good side from time to time and even save the world. for snape its only because he owed it to lily to spy on voldemort. its because of his douchery that voldemort even went after harry and neville anyway. so hes doing nothing except make up for his own fukups, while continuing to be the same mindraping thug he was pre turning spy
    he is a deep and interesting character
    if being a bullying thug crying about a dead crush and whining to her son about how he sucks is "deep and interesting"
    d even if it was in a very weird wayhe did in fact care for Harry
    yet failed to understand the first thing about him and aided in making harry's life absolute miserable shit
    d would have died for him,
    yeah he did a bangup job of that with the whole insulting his mum, mindraping him, trying to get him expelled and raising him basically like a pig for slaughter with dumbles help
    he was arguably the most loyal man in HP, as well one of the bravest and one fo the greatest wizards to boot
    not arguably. considering he was in actuality a spiteful petty bullying mindraping thug who looked down upon everyone whos not him or dumbledore, turned a blind eye to slytherins being sadistic little creeps, tried to get a student expelled based on personal bias towards said students father, ignored everyone who tried to tell him to man up and be nicer, is still crying about a dead crush and would stil be a violent evil terrorist had he not accidently got her killed.
    being a spy for dumbledore, who isnt the nicest guy out there either, doesnt make up for that in the slightest. if snape had his way, harry would be probably stuck at dursley place for the rest of his teen years then left to grovel for a dead end job. some bang up job he did of protecting harry lol. couldnt even check up on his living conditions.
    is it honoring lily, i ask you, to spitefully hate harry, try to expell him and torment his mind for half a year? to continually bully and insult harry's friends because he likes slytherins more? is it honoring lily to turn a blind eye to everyone making harry's life complete shit?
    where was snape when harry was ostracised MULTIPLE TIMES by the school? where was he when harry was sent to almost certain death vs a fukin dragon?
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

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    ive already explained how many villains choose to aid the good side from time to time and even save the world.
    And Snape hasn't done that? Please, if it weren't for him Voldermort would have taken the Philosopher's Stone. Snape literally fought against Quirrell Harry's entire first year and even took a bite from a Giant Cerberus. If it weren't for Snape, Voldemort would've been resurrected when Quirrell set the troll diversion. Who headed off Quirrell and stopped him? Snape.

    for snape its only because he owed it to lily to spy on voldemort.
    So? Snape loved Lily, and through that love he was able to do the right thing and carry the burden of all the hatred in the wizarding world.

    its because of his douchery that voldemort even went after harry and neville anyway.
    Did Snape know who he was backstabbing at the time? No. Did he know who Voldemort would go after? No. As soon as Snape found out, he became Voldemort's #1 enemy.

    so hes doing nothing except make up for his own fukups, while continuing to be the same mindraping thug he was pre turning spy
    Please, Dumbledore made many mistakes in his life too. Is he doing nothing except make amends? No, idiotic logic.

    if being a bullying thug crying about a dead crush and whining to her son about how he sucks is "deep and interesting"
    No, a double agent who dedicated his entire adult life to protecting the Wizarding World.

    yet failed to understand the first thing about him and aided in making harry's life absolute miserable shit
    Oh please, the misery of Harry's life came from many other things. It's asinine that you hate someone just because they don't like another person.

    yeah he did a bangup job of that with the whole insulting his mum,
    He was a 15 year old who was being shanked in public with everyone laughing on-sight. You expect maturity from a 15 year old? Get real.

    mindraping him
    Ummm no, Snape dedicated months to teaching Harry how to NOT get mind-raped.

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    rying to get him expelled and raising him basically like a pig for slaughter with dumbles help
    Are you kidding me? Snape hated Harry, but he knew Dumbledore wouldn't expel him. Get real.

    And raising Harry like a pig for slaughter? Snape found out that part after 17 years of serving Dumbledore. Dumbledore never shared his planes with Snape unless absolutely necessary.

    not arguably. considering he was in actuality a spiteful petty bullying mindraping thug who looked down upon everyone whos not him or dumbledore,
    Your point? Did he ever hurt anyone while he worked for Dumbledore? Did he? No, he did not. (Unless he was forced to by Voldermort, in which he'd have no choice as he had to keep cover.)

    turned a blind eye to slytherins being sadistic little creeps,
    Why would he want to get involved in petty high school idiocy?

    tried to get a student expelled based on personal bias towards said students father,
    Or the fact that said student broke the statute of secrecy twice?

    ignored everyone who tried to tell him to man up and be nicer,
    Name them. Please, name them.

    is still crying about a dead crush
    Really? Go into the books and show me anytime he cried over Lily. The only time he cried was at her death, and never once did he cry again.

    and would stil be a violent evil terrorist had he not accidently got her killed.
    Snape joined Dumbledore before Lily died genius.

    being a spy for dumbledore, who isnt the nicest guy out there either,
    Oh yes, being a spy for the person doing everything in their power to save the wizarding world from a genocidal maniac who wants to make billions of people subservient to him and kill everyone he deems impure.

    doesnt make up for that in the slightest.
    Haha, yes, saving the world. so evil.

    if snape had his way, harry would be probably stuck at dursley place for the rest of his teen years then left to grovel for a dead end job.
    Proof?

    some bang up job he did of protecting harry lol.
    Yes, saving his life multiple times is so evil.

    couldnt even check up on his living conditions.
    You want Snape to pay house visits? lol.

    is it honoring lily, i ask you, to spitefully hate harry, try to expell him and torment his mind for half a year?
    No, but Lily would definitely be grateful to Snape for saving Harry's life several times and building his character throughout the ages. Snape HATED Harry, yet despite that, he still protected him.

    to continually bully and insult harry's friends because he likes slytherins more?
    Who was hurt? Seriously, who was hurt? No one.

    is it honoring lily to turn a blind eye to everyone making harry's life complete shit?
    Turning a blind eye? You mean stopping Voldemort from taking the Sorcerer's Stone? You mean risking his life to save Harry from a supposed convicted murderer who Snape thought betrayed Lily? You mean the same guy who risked his life in going to Voldemort after he was resurrected, knowing full-well Voldemort might kill him, but did it anyway to protect the world? The same guy who sent the Order of the Phoenix to save Harry and his friends from the Death Eaters? The same guy who committed murder to spare another child's innocence? The same guy who was HATED by everyone he was trying to protect? The same guy who's last act was to stop Voldemort?

    where was snape when harry was ostracised MULTIPLE TIMES by the school?
    In his office. Snape's not a babysitter.

    where was he when harry was sent to almost certain death vs a fukin dragon?
    Holding back, because those were his orders.
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    I agree. He was in it for the "greater good," but, much like Itachi in Naruto, he did do a lot of bad in his pursuit. Nobody's the perfect hero and these two fit into an area where their actions do conflict with their intent. It does create the argument "Yeah, you did something good, I guess, but you could've done it a whole different and better way." We can say that in hindsight for Itachi, but for Snape, yeah, I dunno. He was a dick to his students, especially Harry for who his father was. A bit uncool. Snape was not the better man. He became to Harry what Harry's father was to him. A bully.
     
         

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    Re: The truth about Snape

    lol theres a difference between being an anti hero who sometimes goes overboard, and an outright sociopathic rimhole whos only concern is going about things in a spiteful hurtful way
     
         

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