[Predictions] Naruto Manga 502 Discussion and 503 Predictions

[yondaimeminato]

Seeing Minato fight was freaking epic. And to those who are doubting this fight, remember: the better a ninja, the faster he could finish a fight. People like Itachi, Minato, Orochimaru, Sasori, Pain etc finish battles within seconds. And those to me are the best ninja.

well, it's not really finished yet.

In this chapter minato won in speed but not the battle.

I think there is more of madara or the mask man

[CasualMisfit]

There was an eight year gap between both situations he could off easily cut his hair and grown it back between the years.

Yeah i was thinking that... but it seems sorta odd... I am also considering the possibility that Madara's body may be used... His whole attitude... It just seems more and more that Kishi has a fat arse twist to do with madara close on the horizon!

[yondaimeminato]

What I have found interesting from today's chapter:

The third will finally justify his strength hopefully.

The second hokage looks like he was able to do space/time teleportation jutsu as well

[Degrees]

Yeah i was thinking that... but it seems sorta odd... I am also considering the possibility that Madara's body may be used... His whole attitude... It just seems more and more that Kishi has a fat arse twist to do with madara close on the horizon!

I totally agree on your other point. This Madara seems a lot more Tobish (new word in the dictionary) then the one we know now.

[irkool_budd]

wahehehe... madara got owned! your so weak madara! jst coz u have time space jutsu doesnt mean you have thunder speed! one for you! minato is suuuuuuuper cool! who said about him as weak is so wrong! the way he warped that massive ball of black chakra, whew! im having goosebumps!

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Not yet. We still don't know how much damage the Rasengan will do, if any at all. Madara might make his body permeable at the last moment, and their fight will continue. Besides, Minato's intention was to kill Madara - last I checked, a Rasengan the size of what Minato has in his hand does not kill.

Like I said, if this is the end of their fight, it is too short, and Kishimoto has always been one for long, drawn-out clashes. I don't think he would put an end to their fight in only one chapter, especially considering how everyone wants this issue of "Minato vs. Madara" resolved once and for all. Of course that's my speculation, and the opposite of what I predicted might happen. Still, a good chapter.

Actually, Rasengan typically kills, other than Konohamaru's tiny one. Minato had a slightly larger one than a normal size. Kabuto survived Naruto's first Rasengan by healing before it hit.

[Steinbiz]

this proves minato stronger than madara

yep, people keep saying how great madara is with his space/time. MINATO JUST BEAT HIM!!!

IN YOUR FACE MADARA FANBOYS!!!!!

I was right, if they fought one on one, Minato would own him quickly.

[Steinbiz]

Well, even the most humble Uchiha has that sense of pride in them, so I suppose there's nothing you can really do about it. But if Sasuke takes up Madara's mantle, and spends his entire life trying to get revenge on Konoha, he will be much worse of a case. There will be so much more antipathy bottled up in him because of the fact his brother was ordered to slaughter his own clan.

The only thing that confuses me now is, if Madara really was outplayed in their high-speed battle, why would Minato say "[Madara] saw through everything I did?" That statement would no longer be true, resulting in a fairly large contradiction of the story as we know it now.

Naruto 440 page 10 | One Manga

Naruto 455 page 13 | One Manga

Naturally, I am led to believe that their fight will have a continuation, simply because it's what the fans have wanted for quite a while now, and the unusually short length of this fight that is completely unlike the battles that Kishimoto has given in the manga so far.

What do you think?

DUDE OMFG, you're just mad that Minato just beat Madara fair and sqaure and proved he is stronger.

YOU ARE SO IN DENILE

MINATO > MADARA

[minato4th]

Well, even the most humble Uchiha has that sense of pride in them, so I suppose there's nothing you can really do about it. But if Sasuke takes up Madara's mantle, and spends his entire life trying to get revenge on Konoha, he will be much worse of a case. There will be so much more antipathy bottled up in him because of the fact his brother was ordered to slaughter his own clan.

The only thing that confuses me now is, if Madara really was outplayed in their high-speed battle, why would Minato say "[Madara] saw through everything I did?" That statement would no longer be true, resulting in a fairly large contradiction of the story as we know it now.

Naruto 440 page 10 | One Manga

Naruto 455 page 13 | One Manga

Naturally, I am led to believe that their fight will have a continuation, simply because it's what the fans have wanted for quite a while now, and the unusually short length of this fight that is completely unlike the battles that Kishimoto has given in the manga so far.

What do you think?

The fight might last another two chapters with some brief cameos of the third fighting the fox and kushina cuddling naruto etc. However, i think what the fourth meant when he said"[Madara] saw through everything I did" was that during the early stage of the battle he was countering everything the fiurth was throwing at him until the fourth found a way around it until madara once again laid out another trump card. The fourth probalay once again found away around it but was running low on chakra and had to deal with the nine tailed fox. so he probalay knocked out madara or forced him to flee(which all uchihas seem to have a talent for doing) began the process of sealing the nine tails within via naruto but not before speaking with kushina,kakashi,the thrid,jiraiya and tsunade. And i think at some point after the madara battle he had a vision of what naruto could become which probalay influenced him a tad bit more with going through with the sealing.

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

About the Minato being stronger than Madara thing.



"Without some sort of special power, there would be no way to fight him".

Minato doesn't have a special power. He is the Hokage, but he has no Kekkai Genkai (as far as we know), no Bijuu, or anything of that Nature. He is just a genius with some EXTREMELY original techniques and incredible speed. The techniques he invented pretty much sets him up there with people who have Kekkai Genkai and Bijuu's, but it's still not a "special" power because anyone can learn it if they have the ability.



Take a look at what page that is...It's the last, and Madara is still alive...

Matter of fact, he's still alive to THIS DAY.

He's the reason Minato, Kushina, and all of those people from Konoha that died fighting the Kyuubi (like Iruka's parent's) are dead.

He was able to summon the Kyuubi via summoning technique. Just that alone suggests a huge chakra level. He summoned the thing that gave Pain all that shit, and is able to control it. Regardless of Minato having to leave the battle to go after the Kyuubi, it was Madara's abilities of summoning and control that caused Minato to die sealing it. Thus, Madara won the fight. It would be different if the Kyuubi just came out of nowhere and started poppin shit like Rambo.

Supposing the Fourth didn't have the FTG technique, Minato would have been absorbed. If it was Orochimaru, or Sasori, or Deidara, or Kakashi, or Jiraiya, or any other ninja without space/time ninjutsu that can send them somewhere else, it would have been an instant battle.

[uzamaki2223]

@Nick444: Anytime pal.

Glad this weeks manga was worth the wait. :D

The last page pic on Minato taking down Madara, reminds me of Naruto with his Sage cape.

i thought the exact same thing lol

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

wahehehe... madara got owned! your so weak madara! jst coz u have time space jutsu doesnt mean you have thunder speed! one for you! minato is suuuuuuuper cool! who said about him as weak is so wrong! the way he warped that massive ball of black chakra, whew! im having goosebumps!

I'm sure Madara is going to be pretty offended when he reads this...

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

yeah something did seem fishy when itachi mentioned his parent's had went somewhere. Especially when the nines is attacking the village !? Something tells me that thier was AN UCHIHA CONSPIRACY BREWING EVEN BEFORE THE ATTACK OF THE NINE TAILED FOX !!

don't think so.it was simply a child noticing his parents weren't home and that he would protect sasuke

[minato4th]

without madarA's spacetime ninjutsu HE WOULD BE DEAD. Madara didn't win, to madara winning was the complete ANNIILATION OF THE HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE. WHICH HE DID NOT SUCEED IN DOING. DESPITE THE FACT MINATO DIED, HE WON THE BATTLE. HOW YOU ASK ?? HE SEALED THE NINE TAILS THUSLY STOPPING IT'S RAMPAGE, MOST DEF DID SOMETHING TO MADARA THAT PREVENTED HIM FROM INTERFEREING WHILE THE SEALING WAS IN PROCESS. SAVED THE VILLAGE AND PASSED DOWN A GIFT TO HIS SON THAT WILL THE SHINOBI WORLD OF MADARA ONCE AND FOR ALL

[Astral]

Great chapter

[sabbyxx]

ot leavs a bit of a clifhanger

[Astral]

Yeah, this weak could of been a 20 pager :-/

When was the last time naruto even had a 20+ page of manga other than the first chapter?

[Revan]

nice chapter.
of course minato didnt won, otherwise the fox would have disappeared and would never have been sealed in naruto. the only possibility for the sealing is that minato believes he cant win, what's exactly what he expressed in the dialogue with naruto.

apart from that minato's action was sooo obvious, madara should have seen it coming. especially because he knows that minato can teleport to seals.

[yondaimeminato]

About the Minato being stronger than Madara thing.



"Without some sort of special power, there would be no way to fight him".

Minato doesn't have a special power. He is the Hokage, but he has no Kekkai Genkai (as far as we know), no Bijuu, or anything of that Nature. He is just a genius with some EXTREMELY original techniques and incredible speed. The techniques he invented pretty much sets him up there with people who have Kekkai Genkai and Bijuu's, but it's still not a "special" power because anyone can learn it if they have the ability.



Take a look at what page that is...It's the last, and Madara is still alive...

Matter of fact, he's still alive to THIS DAY.

He's the reason Minato, Kushina, and all of those people from Konoha that died fighting the Kyuubi (like Iruka's parent's) are dead.

He was able to summon the Kyuubi via summoning technique. Just that alone suggests a huge chakra level. He summoned the thing that gave Pain all that shit, and is able to control it. Regardless of Minato having to leave the battle to go after the Kyuubi, it was Madara's abilities of summoning and control that caused Minato to die sealing it. Thus, Madara won the fight. It would be different if the Kyuubi just came out of nowhere and started poppin shit like Rambo.

Supposing the Fourth didn't have the FTG technique, Minato would have been absorbed. If it was Orochimaru, or Sasori, or Deidara, or Kakashi, or Jiraiya, or any other ninja without space/time ninjutsu that can send them somewhere else, it would have been an instant battle.

you don't really need to be born with special power like those kekkai genkai. Minato has special power and that's flying god thunder jutsu. kekkai genkai person would easily be taken to another dimension with madara/tobi/masked man's power even if he had special powers. Right now, naruto has a special power of the nine tail demon but he can easily be taken to another dimension by madara/tobi/masked man.

Madara/tobi/masked man's goal wasn't killing Minato. His plan was to destroy konoha. Right now, madara/tobi/masked man doesn't even know that minato can seal the nine tail demon fox. Why do you think, he keeps saying "it's too late now". He thinks that the nine tail demon can not be stopped.

Madara/tobi/masked man is trying hard to keep minato out of the nine tail demon fox. If madara/tobi/masked man would have won the fight then he wouldn't have let minato seal the nine tail demon fox into naruto. After all, madara/tobi/masked man waited a longgggggggg time just so that the seal could be weakened. Now putting the nine tail demon fox into naruto, it would make impossible for madara/tobi/masked man to take out the nine tail demon out of the seal since this time, the nine tail demon was seal into a male. I don't know why you keep thinking that madara/tobi/masked man have won.

If someone retreats from a fight, that's an automatic lost. Madara/tobi/masked man had to retreat from minato so that minato can seal of nine tail demon into his son.

and madara/tobi/masked man can do this by teleporting back to his base with his jutsu so it's nearly impossible to kill him even if minato would have been able to follow madara/tobi/masked man, the nine tail demon would have left no trace of konoha.

the choices were:

going after madara/tobi/masked man or taking care of the nine tail demon fox

he chose to take care of the nine tail demon fox

[Astral]

Well minato does something amazing soon, u cant just use the death god seal in a matter of seconds, he didnt have and bruises or exhausted marks on his face, unless madara makes him fight in a dimension where time is stopped and minato buys some time

[10tailed]

All i can say is wow......plus i learned something about the second...he used space time jutsus aswell...i thought he was only a master of water techs...im gonna have to do some research

[Siberia]

Man, I've always thought that the second hokage was one of the weakest hokage, but after this chapter i'm not so sure about it. We knew that his talent were water techiniques, like a sort of water sage, but now after these few chapters, i'm gonna believe he's even stronger than the third. Being the creater of Edo Tensei AND use space/time jutsu's, It looks like Kishi is trying to make the characters we didn't knew much of, much stronger!

[yondaimeminato]

All i can say is wow......plus i learned something about the second...he used space time jutsus aswell...i thought he was only a master of water techs...im gonna have to do some research

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[Astral]

Man, I've always thought that the second hokage was one of the weakest hokage, but after this chapter i'm not so sure about it. We knew that his talent were water techiniques, like a sort of water sage, but now after these few chapters, i'm gonna believe he's even stronger than the third. Being the creater of Edo Tensei AND use space/time jutsu's, It looks like Kishi is trying to make the characters we didn't knew much of, much stronger!

Yeah, he's really been a figure head up until now, minato said the second could use space/time jutsu as well, the question is, whose better? O_o

[silenceofthelambs]

yep, people keep saying how great madara is with his space/time. MINATO JUST BEAT HIM!!!

IN YOUR FACE MADARA FANBOYS!!!!!

I was right, if they fought one on one, Minato would own him quickly.

It's amusing when you make yourself look so stupid, honestly. You know, I recognize the fact that you all you want is someone who agrees with your patronizing points of view. You don't care to have a good discussion with somebody, all you want to do is attempt to make others look bad when they don't agree with you, when you are displaying yourself as one of the most childish and obnoxious users on this forum.

If Minato wins this battle, will it satisfy that inflated ego of yours? Because it seems like that's all you've wanted from this manga. Your favorite character, who you have a clear obsession for, winning a battle against another. I suppose if you act like an immature, arrogant person, that's how you have to be treated.

Your words: "IN YOUR FACE MADARA FANBOYS!" Ask yourself, who's the real "fanboy" here? Everyone has the right to have a preference for a certain character, but they don't have to go flaunting it around like you do. You've proven nothing. You are trying to invade other peoples' points of view, while forcing everyone to accept yours - check the thread you made, "Minato vs. Madara;" you'll find out what I mean. It takes courage to stand up and defend your point of view, but it takes an equal amount of, if not more, courage to sit down and listen.