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    Re: Omg are you serious!?! Really Kishi..

    Quote Originally Posted by xAj View Post
    U highly doubt that. Madara has no doubt nor indeterminate thoughts, I dont think Juubi will attack him like with Obito. But I dont see any other methods to kill him off. Unless something happens with sausage
    It will and the juubi will have control over madara and then naruto TNJ his juubi's a$$.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    I don't think naruto can get kurama chakra from the sages tools because they were already extracted by Obito when he baca me the sage. Obito didn't take any chakra from naruto or minato to revive te fed I so I for know what kurama chakra naruto will get. However, he can't die he is the main character for crying out loud and the fight between naruto and sasuke has been foreshadowed since the very first episode.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    For those of ya'll saying Naruto is dead... Don't forget that Gai and Tenten found the tools that contain the ginkaku and kinkaku brothers... (Both of whom contain Nine tail chakra)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    I think we found Obito's chance to shine. If black Zetsu is still attached to Obito maybe Obito can gain control and give Naruto the kyuubi back.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by maaxerror View Post
    Just WOW! Not expecting that at all. That mysterious figure is definetly not kabuto otherwise Karen would know his chakra. Could it be Jiraya, unlikely. And jubidara spitting the tools and calling them useless, surely he will be sealed in it.
    That's what I was thinking but then again she said she had a bad feeling about the chakra
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    The foot belongs to the REAL So6P.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    Did black zetsu just out maneuver minato?!?!?!? Glad we found out who the mystery character is . . .
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    What I don't get is the new levels of speed in naruto. How is black zetsu becoming faster than minato -_-
    Also if Jubito was faster than bam naruto and sasuke imagine how fast madara is now.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by TheKyuubiIchigo View Post
    For those of ya'll saying Naruto is dead... Don't forget that Gai and Tenten found the tools that contain the ginkaku and kinkaku brothers... (Both of whom contain Nine tail chakra)
    I think only brainless people have been posting this crap of yours. So let me give the intel back. Basically, Ginkaku and Kinku were thrown in Gedo Mazou by Obito so that he can have Kyuubi chakra in his Juubi. Therefore, if there is anything in those tools, it will be crappy dust of eco tensei, and the cloud ninja that were sealed by Gin and Kin bro.

    Moreover, if we go deeper for those who have working brain, who do not accept BS action from Kishi, we know that Ginkaku and Kinkaku were edo tensei character. We also know that edo tensei was cancelled by Itachi, and all the edo characters have vanished along with their should and chakra. Therefore, I can guarantee that there is no more Ginkaku and Kinkaku. Well, this is at least true for those who are actually reading a story made for reasonable readers.

    PS: Although Kishi has been proving that his story is consistent with reasonable fact, and after proving each chapter that the fanbase is always making crap review and analysis, people continue to infect the forum with ridiculous guesses, and BS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Sutona View Post
    What I don't get is the new levels of speed in naruto. How is black zetsu becoming faster than minato -_-
    Also if Jubito was faster than bam naruto and sasuke imagine how fast madara is now.
    Where is it say that Black Zetsu is faster than Minato? Please give us a single panel where there is a speed contest between the two. I mean this is getting out of control with all these butthurt fanboys who are hurt because their theories are falling apart. First, Minato was still and trying to put Yin Kyuubi in Naruto. Second, balck zetsu travel underground and can use multiple of his clone to operate.

    It is only after a speed contest that you can say someone is faster than another.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by TheKyuubiIchigo View Post
    For those of ya'll saying Naruto is dead... Don't forget that Gai and Tenten found the tools that contain the ginkaku and kinkaku brothers... (Both of whom contain Nine tail chakra)
    Also don't forget that Ginkaku and Kinkaku mention that once sealed in those tools, that they CANNOT get out. If Kishi uses these tools to give Naruto chakara back (which is highly unlikely), then he will have to pull something out of his ass to cancel out what he said previously in his chapters.

    TL;DR - No, Naruto will NOT receive the Nine-Tails chakara from these tools. And if he did, Kishi doesn't know how to stay true to his own storyline.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    good chapter so many mastery so is naruto going to die or father will exchange life like the way chiyo did
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SkylineGTR View Post
    Also don't forget that Ginkaku and Kinkaku mention that once sealed in those tools, that they CANNOT get out. If Kishi uses these tools to give Naruto chakara back (which is highly unlikely), then he will have to pull something out of his ass to cancel out what he said previously in his chapters.

    TL;DR - No, Naruto will NOT receive the Nine-Tails chakara from these tools. And if he did, Kishi doesn't know how to stay true to his own storyline.
    There is an important fact that many people are dodging with these soul and biju sealing crap. They are afraid to see naruto's true power that they have been crediting to Kyuubi. Now, all the true readers knows that Naruto has a hidden power and bloodline that is unexplained. This hidden power will be responsible for his recovering, and every person will be amazed about it including fanboys and Uchiha Madara and the Narutoverse. The question will be: How is Naruto still alive? Why/How does it recover from Biju extraction? And the answer will be he was born with power within him. The proof of that power is the Kyuubi traits on his face. If they have not disappeared, it means their source is still within him. Naruto is simply the true Rikudo reborn. Add this to his SM, and he become the new Rikudo Sennin.

    Question: Where is it stated that Naruto and Sasuke are dead? Do people really know the meaning of death?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    wtf Minato's supposed to be considered the shinobi with the fastest reflexes. No one really notices Madara has a costume change?

    Theory: Obito's final deed will be to steal Kurama from Zetsu, seeing as Obito now has a tailed beast inside him (since he and Obito are sharing a body and the reason Obito's dying is because he needs a tailed beast) he can use Kamui so no one can follow him but Kakashi. Kakashi transport Naruto and himself. Obito transfers Kurama into Naruto and before Obito dies he gives Kakashi his other MS.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by tife View Post
    But this is all too cheap.
    First, Madara spit out the sage tools (which of course has a bit of Kurama and eight tails chakra)
    Then black zetsu used the old bug bunny trick on Minato by quickly zapping the other half of Kurama.

    Anyway, we all know that the mysterious person is not kabuto. Karin does not recognise the chakra so its safe to say its someone Karin has never met before.
    The Silhouette is not helping in recognition also.

    Naruto was clearly still on Gaara's sand. How on earth did black zetsu slip through without Gaara knowing?

    If i were to be the writer i will make sure Naruto survives even without Kurama's chakra. I thought the whole idea was that with guts and self belief you can achieve your dreams. This is looking more like "You can only achieve your dreams with guts, self belief and a little bit of magic, i mean lots and lots of magic.
    Inspiration lost.
    Look don't fall for Kishi Throw you off jutsu again and start to over think it, because the man near Sasuke is Kabuto. When was the last time Karin felt Kabuto chakra, what back when Oroachimaru, Sasuke and him was together. We know that she quote through the manga that ninja's chakra changes (how many time this fan girl said Sasuke chakra is different and Kabuto been through two changes since the last time she seen him). Just like Tobi being Obito, it was obvious that Obito was Tobi/Madara after he told Kakashi don't bother using his MS eye technique on him, cause it wouldn't work. I knew then that he was Obito, but Kishi alway use TYO jutsu to make up for his writing being predictable.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    So black Zetsu trolled everyone, Madara pull the most arrogant, and stupid move so far. Lets just screw away the two tools that could actually defeat me, And hey lets just give it to people in the army moving against me. And Naruto is currently very screwed. I will say though I was sort of hoping something would happen to the other half of Kurama's chakra, now things will be very interesting. I am wondering if Naruto and Sasuke will have to be resurrected instead of revived.

    overall 3/5
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou Sennin balls View Post
    wtf Minato's supposed to be considered the shinobi with the fastest reflexes. No one really notices Madara has a costume change?

    Theory: Obito's final deed will be to steal Kurama from Zetsu, seeing as Obito now has a tailed beast inside him (since he and Obito are sharing a body and the reason Obito's dying is because he needs a tailed beast) he can use Kamui so no one can follow him but Kakashi. Kakashi transport Naruto and himself. Obito transfers Kurama into Naruto and before Obito dies he gives Kakashi his other MS.
    I don't believe that Obito will have yang Kurama and help by giving it to Naruto. For one Black Zetsu is his own entity and is now the host of yang Kurama and Obito had the whole ten tail power and statue rip out of him on top of using rebirth path on Madara. Obito shouldn't be able to do anything but die already and it will be total BS if he could do something at this point to prevent Madara from getting Yang Kurama and the other rinngan eye, while God mode Madara right next to him(Kakashi can't even feel the guy no more). Lastly Kakashi can't have both of Obito eye's cause he is not a Uchiha or have the body or abundance of chakra of a Senju or Uzumaki (that why Nagato could handle both of Madara eyes, because Uchiha are compatible with Senju & Uzumaki cell to make them closer to the sage and vice versa when it come to them getting Uchiha sharingan). Kakashi have to cover his eye when he not fighting, cause the sharingan form is always activated and take up to much of his baby chakra (what is he going to fight for 5 minutes then have to use his headband to cover both eye 's all day blind with a walking stick, he already have a ton of seeing eye dogs). Unless Kakashi is getting some Zetsu body part too, their is no way he can handle both MS eye's.

    Naruto not getting the Yang Kurama make total sense (just what I predicted in my Naruto chapter 664 story prediction, but I had Madara snatching it out of Minato ) and is good for Naruto character (who I think at this point is the most overrated main manga character ever).

    Naruto getting the yang Kurama is nothing compare to Madara having the almost full Juubi and Sasuke getting the rinnigan is nothing to a more experience rinnigan user in Madara. I think it's better if Naruto & Sasuke get never before seen power up (giving Naruto a chance to be or become OP without 9 tail steroids) and Madara become fully power with both rinnigan eye 's and full power Kurama absorb, leaving no doubt that he is Sage of the 6 path 2014 is great (epically after just reading Obito as D league Sage). Then having Naruto and Sasuke defeat Madara with new power ups, would be epic for else to read and epic for them in the Narutoverse (I love where Kishi seem to be going with his manga), cause if he not go to let Sasuke defeat a just with rinnigan Madara on his own, to surpass him and help give a legit chance for him at being Hokage outside of Naruto. Have him with Naruto defeat a god mode Madara, giving both of them greatness in history, before their final fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality View Post
    So black Zetsu trolled everyone, Madara pull the most arrogant, and stupid move so far. Lets just screw away the two tools that could actually defeat me, And hey lets just give it to people in the army moving against me. And Naruto is currently very screwed. I will say though I was sort of hoping something would happen to the other half of Kurama's chakra, now things will be very interesting. I am wondering if Naruto and Sasuke will have to be resurrected instead of revived.

    overall 3/5
    Do you really think that this Madara will get seal in that orb tool, that was meant for him to have, come on. They going to have to totally defeat Madara and maybe instead of killing him Kishi soft self let them seal him in that orb. Which to me seem to be the easiest seal to be release from, in the whole Narutoverse (the Minato death seal and Itachi seal seem more impossible to get out of).
     
         
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    Re: karin not being able to read the chakra means nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by NaruSasuRival View Post
    Thanks bro. This could be someone else, but it look more like Kabuto mixing sage mode with curse seal power. And while many people don't accept, I have predicted that Kabuto should break out of Izanami by his own science. It would be very bad for Kishi to create characters with unique skills over many chapter and then throw them away. Besides, Kabuto merging with Sasuke would be a better choice for Sasuke to get power-up because he has Juugo's, Suigetsui's and Uzumaki's DNA. This could cause Sasuke to unlock a new power.
    Right, while it's fair enough to say that -most- people on here fail to recognize what's coming up next and start throwing shit like "it's Izuna" or "it's sage of the six path". I believe it's the author's job to -not- make us find out who that shadow figure is. However, I also believe that Kabuto is the shadow figure and I also believe in most of your theory.

    Just a note to everyone else out there if you try reading other translation site such as mangastream (I usually read here online first because it's release faster than Mangastream) you'll notice the translations are completely off by a lot. Here are some example:

    Mangapanda:
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/664/3
    Orochimaru said: We can't tell what a mysterious person might do to Sasuke-kun.

    Mangastream:
    http://readms.com/r/naruto/664/2251/5
    Orochimaru said: Right now, some creep that slithered out from under some rock somewhere is doing who knows what to Sasuke-kun

    So if you pick up words and just think for a few second. Who do you think was left under some rock?

    And finally, that is a dark sage mode (DSM) drawing. NaruSasuRival maybe right about Kabuto mixing sage mode with curse seal power as well. But either way, there are no other character with DSM. I still think that the shadow figure will be revealed within a few chapters though because that's just how Masashi Kishimoto is; toying with us. Anything can happen but as of right now THE SOURCE aims toward Kabuto.

    PS. If I was the author, I would not make 2-3 page worth of flash back. Instead, I would write/draw 2-4 panels worth of flash back and I would rather explain more flash back in detail THROUGH the anime. Masashi Kishimoto, you mention that you do not want the Anime to catch up to the manga, maybe you should do what I said instead of adding pointless fillers as well as character staring at each other (like DBZ) for 2 mins just so you can make the Anime 45 mins long.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    Mysterious figure ---> Grab sasuke + naruto have a deep insightful talk, a real heart to heart. Fusion of Sasuke + Naruto brought to you by mysterious figure. (S06p) now bestowing future on to both of them who become The One.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    awesome chapter

    that black zetsu
    that madara
    that kakashi-party, guy & lee will join

    what's gonna happen !? seriously!!?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 664 Discussion and 665 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by NaruSasuRival View Post
    I think only brainless people have been posting this crap of yours. So let me give the intel back. Basically, Ginkaku and Kinku were thrown in Gedo Mazou by Obito so that he can have Kyuubi chakra in his Juubi. Therefore, if there is anything in those tools, it will be crappy dust of eco tensei, and the cloud ninja that were sealed by Gin and Kin bro.

    Moreover, if we go deeper for those who have working brain, who do not accept BS action from Kishi, we know that Ginkaku and Kinkaku were edo tensei character. We also know that edo tensei was cancelled by Itachi, and all the edo characters have vanished along with their should and chakra. Therefore, I can guarantee that there is no more Ginkaku and Kinkaku. Well, this is at least true for those who are actually reading a story made for reasonable readers.

    PS: Although Kishi has been proving that his story is consistent with reasonable fact, and after proving each chapter that the fanbase is always making crap review and analysis, people continue to infect the forum with ridiculous guesses, and BS.



    Where is it say that Black Zetsu is faster than Minato? Please give us a single panel where there is a speed contest between the two. I mean this is getting out of control with all these butthurt fanboys who are hurt because their theories are falling apart. First, Minato was still and trying to put Yin Kyuubi in Naruto. Second, balck zetsu travel underground and can use multiple of his clone to operate.

    It is only after a speed contest that you can say someone is faster than another.
    I like your opinions/theories, similar to my thinking, you like things and story/plots to make sense, can understand what you are reading or have read and also like me call it like you see it, with no love fest of a character/writer or main character (even when the Naruto Balls Boys or Kishi Drone Zombies are release from their cages and attack everyone with average to above average I.Q). But anyway I agree with every point you made so far.
     
         
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