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    Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    So Madara has planned most of this years in advance, it's a convoluted plot of awesome that boggles the mind.

    He's smart enough to do that.

    Yet dense enough to throw away legendary ninja tools, that he knows the name of, and thus knows the capabilities of.

    It just seems inconsistent of his character...

    Maybe you could say it's because he's getting cocky with hew newfound power but just...

    It just seems like inconsistent asspull plot stupidity to me. It would take minimal effort on his part to use them or store them or even destroy them.

    It almost seems like the newest chapter just doesn't fit the rest of the series, feels so out of place.
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    #dat #paradox

    OT: I agree it's almost like Madara Shippuuden
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    Madara's arrogance is his only weakness , that will be the reason , he will get defeated .
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    Defeated by ten ten
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

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    Defeated by ten ten
    TenTen with 3 Sage Tools >>>> Hiruzen in 5 Elements, Minato in sealing techniques. Be aware!
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    Reading this chapter, I was highly disappointed. Madara just drops powerful ninja tools? Agree, major ass pull. Lame, Kishimoto. Seriously lame.
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    Its a plot asspull. Kishi has admitted he made Madara too powerful. The only thing capable of Sealing him would be the Sages Tools, however i agree with you: Totally inconsistent with his character to disgard these things knowing their potential.

    The fact that they landed beside Tenten and Lee (TenTen already previously shown to be capable of weilding the Sages Tools in battle) was yet another plot asspull in my opinion. However... from Kishis perspective, how else will they be able to defeat Madara.

    Also ironic that the chapter in which the Kyuubis Yin was stolen by Black Zetsu is the same chapter in which the Tools containing the Chakra of the Nine Tails (Jinkaku, Kinkaku?? Brothers) was dispelled by Madara...

    Anyway.. other than that the chapter was ok. Not as bad as everyones making out to be. I was glad to hear SOMEONE mention NEJI again (which is realistic).
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    yea i agree with you bearzo,
    for madara who is obssessed with power why would he throw powerfull weapons like that away?
    Very lame indeed or maybe over confidence!
    No doubt Kishi is doing his things.
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    I wholeheartedly agree.....I feel Kishi is doing it only as a means to show his weakness in the guise of arrogance. In all forms maybe....I'd have thought Kishi would make it less obvious...use more tact. My opinion....but he could have had him say. "There is no need for them now" In a calm manner, not "How useless" Doesn't fit his character at all imo. As you say it seems out of place. Maybe....his new power is clouding his judgement? I wasn't too fond of that, but Kishi is....Kishi!
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    I agree he's so dumb.....lol
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverfoxUchiha View Post
    Its a plot asspull. Kishi has admitted he made Madara too powerful. The only thing capable of Sealing him would be the Sages Tools, however i agree with you: Totally inconsistent with his character to disgard these things knowing their potential.

    The fact that they landed beside Tenten and Lee (TenTen already previously shown to be capable of weilding the Sages Tools in battle) was yet another plot asspull in my opinion. However... from Kishis perspective, how else will they be able to defeat Madara.

    Also ironic that the chapter in which the Kyuubis Yin was stolen by Black Zetsu is the same chapter in which the Tools containing the Chakra of the Nine Tails (Jinkaku, Kinkaku?? Brothers) was dispelled by Madara...

    Anyway.. other than that the chapter was ok. Not as bad as everyones making out to be. I was glad to hear SOMEONE mention NEJI again (which is realistic).
    I didn't know he admitted it! Nice to know he did though.

    I was glad he's not forgotten, but actually disappointed at the context of the mention of Neji, it seemed too playful, especially considering it didn't happen that long ago in terms of the mangas time (though it seems long for us it's not even a day for them right?)
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    I think it completely makes sense.

    After getting amaterasu, sasuke rarely used katon.
    After getting MS, he rarely uses ninjutsu.

    Similarly, after getting a new and better power up, madara simply does not want to use those "useless" weapons.

    Why to use a pistol if you have access to a rifle?
    He have access so6p sword and what not, i doubt he would want to use those weapons.

    It was actually character development for madara because it shows how arrogant he is and overlooking such a crucial weapon.
     
         

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    Madara has already set his downfall in motion.

    What the title says, I can't believe Kishi made Madara ignorant enough to just spit out his tools and leave them. He knows of Rikudo's power, the smart tactical Madara never would have done this but I see now that he's becoming the 2nd Aizen.
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frikid View Post
    I think it completely makes sense.

    After getting amaterasu, sasuke rarely used katon.
    After getting MS, he rarely uses ninjutsu.

    Similarly, after getting a new and better power up, madara simply does not want to use those "useless" weapons.

    Why to use a pistol if you have access to a rifle?
    He have access so6p sword and what not, i doubt he would want to use those weapons.

    It was actually character development for madara because it shows how arrogant he is and overlooking such a crucial weapon.
    this, i think it's obvious...
     
         

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    Re: Madara has already set his downfall in motion.

    Again these tools require enormous chakra pool, which at this point nobody got, every1 is tired from the fight
     
         

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    Re: Madara has already set his downfall in motion.

    Well He might be the second Aizen, but as Aizen failed and underestimated Urahara, Madara will underestimate Tenten and that will be his doom
     
         

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    Re: Madara has already set his downfall in motion.

    obito also became so, and kabuto too




     
         

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    Re: Madara has already set his downfall in motion.

    True. If he gonna try taking over world, he need all the tools.
     
         

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    Re: Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.

    what makes u think the tools work on him anyway?

    Everything in the manga has weakness and has lmits.

    Look at the legendary weapons used by itachi and ocorihmaru.

    The sword orocihmaru uses, it was said in part 1 that it could pierce anything but in part 2 he used on 4 tail Naruto and it did nothing but push him back abit.

    Itachi's sword was revealed by zetsu to be able to seal something for ever but orcihmaru found a way to get out.

    Theses tools will be useless against madara and im basing this on the simple fact that as fans we don't want see a crappy plot device such has legendary tools have any part in stopping the final villain in the story and we want to see madara get stopped by sheer power which would be fun to see rather than watching him get sucked into a bottle.

    Madara is the so6p recaination now and the tools are made by this power and should not be stronger than the powers that created them.


    The items will just give give Naruto more of the fox's chakra from the cloud sliver and gold brothers.
     
         
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    Obvious really :|

    its pretty obvious how madara will be defeated


    rikoudo Tools > favo word = Hashirama

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    Re: Obvious really :|

    What if the Rikudo somehow gets revived and he uses his tools to defeat Madara? Tobirama can't do anything right now, and I'm not sure about Hashirama.
     
         

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    Re: Obvious really :|

    seems like kishi is desperate to take a long vacation very soon
     
         

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    Re: Obvious really :|

    I think it's pretty obvious that TenTen will solo Madara. I mean he's the Ten Tails Jin, TenTen has "ten" in her name, and she knows what the tools are. Time to start facing the facts people.
     
         

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    Re: Obvious really :|

    Quote Originally Posted by Kami sama View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious that TenTen will solo Madara. I mean he's the Ten Tails Jin, TenTen has "ten" in her name, and she knows what the tools are. Time to start facing the facts people.
    this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     
         

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    Re: Obvious really :|

    No the tools are just plot for naruto to survive
     
         

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