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    Re: Naruto Manga 503 Spoilers / Summaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Steinbiz View Post
    well it seems the zetsu theory is false after all. thought so. not only landing rasengan but placing FTG tag and a seal to stop control over kyuubi? minato has complete control over madara powers at this moment. but the only thing I don't get is, minato could kill madara, why doesn't he??? it would end so much future conflict!

    I know minato is a good guy and doesn't like to "kill" people, but madara isn't someone you just throw in jail and be done with it. he's madara, he'll escape for sure.
    or maybe before minato gave him the final blow, madara scaped.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 503 Spoilers / Summaries

    Odd how that is 'different' from the first 'ohana' spoiler. See what I mean?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steinbiz View Post
    well it seems the zetsu theory is false after all. thought so. not only landing rasengan but placing FTG tag and a seal to stop control over kyuubi? minato has complete control over madara powers at this moment. but the only thing I don't get is, minato could kill madara, why doesn't he??? it would end so much future conflict!

    I know minato is a good guy and doesn't like to "kill" people, but madara isn't someone you just throw in jail and be done with it. he's madara, he'll escape for sure.
    In Kakashi-gaiden Minato didn't had much trouble killing off people >.>
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steinbiz View Post
    well it seems the zetsu theory is false after all. thought so. not only landing rasengan but placing FTG tag and a seal to stop control over kyuubi? minato has complete control over madara powers at this moment. but the only thing I don't get is, minato could kill madara, why doesn't he??? it would end so much future conflict!

    I know minato is a good guy and doesn't like to "kill" people, but madara isn't someone you just throw in jail and be done with it. he's madara, he'll escape for sure.
    why? couse if Minato kills him now, theres no future plot in it. Anyway...if Minato impressed everyone in last chapter, than in this one...he impressed me even more than i could expect ever from anyone
     
         

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    Nidaime is talking to Hiruzen & Danzou? I thought he was killed when they were both young.
     
         

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    ohh lolz, theres 3 hokages in one town, and only 1 actualy doing smth!
     
         

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    SOURCE:Naruto spoiler metin ve resimleri -2- (Girerken 2 kez d?nn) - Sayfa 151 - WWW.aiLeVadiSi.NeT
    the opening page (of the chap) has
    'habanero' kushina cooking breakfast, minato with a wry smile and naruto trying to sneak out of the window.
    (hinting that kushinas not a good cook )

    The explanation(/the reason)of halving 9b is given. Its touching.

    Remember jiraiyas words (on the seal).
    Its parental love.

    naruto on the jump cover

     
         

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    The 4ht was stronger then Madara when the 4th said he saw through everything i did he must of meant the preparation's they had for Naruto's birth
     
         

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    I usually don't comment until after I read the complete manga, but there are very interesting take aways from Kushina's story. To me Naruto's always been about family ties, and true friends. In this "Naruto Born-Gaiden" We see the third's wife, The first's wife, Itachi holding Sasuke, and Iruka's family. We see Sasuske's mom and Kushina had a relationship, Guy and Kakishi early relationship; and Danzou, and the 3rd are talking, probably about the uchilla clan.

    So what/who is missing..

    Akatsuki - was the group started after Madra's failed attempt at capturing the 9 tails?

    The Sanin - Minato gave Jiriaya the key so he must be close, but it seems odd none of them are around during this time.

    Minato's or Kushina's family - Kushina's clan was disbanded, but what about Minato's parents?

    The Time line - How old was Minato when he died, we know he was younger than 30. Naruto is 16 now, Kakashi is 30 now. If Minato was around 20 when the fox attacked that would make him around 36 now. So if we had to guess at the age Minato's mom she would be between at 52 to 66 now.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 503 Spoilers / Summaries

    this issues looks to be another good one, I cant wait to see all this. Anyone find any pictures/ RAW scans yet?

    I also have to assume that when Minato said "he saw through everything I did" that he meant all the prep work before Narutos birth because he seemed to have Madara's number.

    We also know that this indeed was Madara and not a Zetsu clone because that other spoiler said something about tree juice. Anyway where are the Sannin anyway because Minato did give jiraya that frog jutsu scroll so maybe that happened before this because Minato did prep alot of things before hand and maybe he gave it to Jiraya a few days prior just in case something did happen during the resealing of the Kyuubi...thats my only take.

    and if Danzou is around im sure he's hiding...seriously him and Zetsu should be lovers LOL!!!! too bad he is dead now...thank you Sasuke :flaw:
     
         

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    It looks like Kishi rushed this part. i hope it doesn't end here, too many things are left unanswered.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 503 Spoilers / Summaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Nidaime is talking to Hiruzen & Danzou? I thought he was killed when they were both young.
    Yeah....I thought that too. Must be a mis-translation. Unless Nidaime didn't really die? lol
     
         

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    Dammit now I can't wait for the chapter to come out... wanna c Minato own Madara.. ))))
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut View Post
    Yeah....I thought that too. Must be a mis-translation. Unless Nidaime didn't really die? lol
    Kurenai's father, Kakashi, Kurenai, are talking to Gai. Like when Nidaime was talking to Hiruzen and Danzou.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturo9 View Post
    or maybe before minato gave him the final blow, madara scaped.
    That's not what the spoiler says. For all of Minato's great intelligence and abilities, that was probably one of the most enormous errors of judgment in the entire series. Minato defeated Madara with the Rasengan, put a Flying Thunder God tag on him, performed a contract sealing that cut off Madara's control of the Nine-Tails, yet failed to finish it all. I don't understand why would he leave his son to do all the work he was so close to finishing. Madara only escaped with his space-time ninjutsu after being wounded by Minato's kunai; he could have easily plunged the kunai into Madara's throat or neck, and it would have been done. Maybe the reasons for this will be explained, but that still remains a big question if they will.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by silenceofthelambs View Post
    That's not what the spoiler says. For all of Minato's great intelligence and abilities, that was probably one of the most enormous errors of judgment in the entire series. Minato defeated Madara with the Rasengan, put a Flying Thunder God tag on him, performed a contract sealing that cut off Madara's control of the Nine-Tails, yet failed to finish it all. I don't understand why would he leave his son to do all the work he was so close to finishing. Madara only escaped with his space-time ninjutsu after being wounded by Minato's kunai; he could have easily plunged the kunai into Madara's throat or neck, and it would have been done. Maybe the reasons for this will be explained, but that still remains a big question if they will.
    and noo Zetsus clones with space/time jutsus
     
         

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    The spoilers make me want to cry. So the mystery on were the other half on the kyuubi's chakra is solved it's in Sasuke the shinigami. All my questions were solved. Just as long as Tobi got his ass kicked by Minato I loved this guiden. He better not be the real Madara, it would prove that Minato was one of the strongest shinobi to live.
     
         

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    you all talk about madara being owned by minato but in actual fact he doesnt , even minato himself with the talk with naruto stated he was no match the only way he beat madara was actually sealing the kyuubi and foiling madara's plans
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenryoku View Post
    you all talk about madara being owned by minato but in actual fact he doesnt , even minato himself with the talk with naruto stated he was no match the only way he beat madara was actually sealing the kyuubi and foiling madara's plans
    its what u think
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
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    503 ミナトの屍鬼封尽!!

    ミナト螺旋丸、マダラに当てる
    そのすきに、マダラの体に飛雷術のマーキング
    マダラ左手負傷

    マダラ、離れるもマーキングで、すぐミナトにクナイで刺される
    ミナト、マダラに契約封印。契約封印することで九尾はマダラの言うことをきかなくなる

    九尾の眼から写輪眼の模様が消える

    イルカママ、イルカ庇って負傷
    イルカパパ、逃げろ
    イルカ とーちゃんとかーちゃんと一緒じゃなきゃ~~~~

    木の葉が壊れていく
    九尾木の葉の外へ出ていく
    三代目筆頭に、皆で攻撃

    マダラ、いずれ九尾は俺のものになると言いながらダイゾン

    イルカ、誰かわからないけど上忍に連れて行かれる

    紅パパ 紅 カカシ ガイを説得。二代目がダンゾウ、ヒルゼンに言ったようなこと。

    九尾セロ吐こうとするが、ミナト、ガマ文太を口寄せ

    ミナト、クシナに 少しの間九尾を抑えていてくれと言いながら
    時空間忍術で、遠くへ

    飛んだ場所はナルトとクシナがいる場所
    ミナト、もうチャクラがなくなりつつある
    クシナ、息絶え絶え鎖を出し九尾捕獲
    泣くナルト
    クシナは覚悟を決め、九尾を引きずりこんで死ぬわと言う

    ミナトの愛の告白。
    クシナの愛の告白。

    ミナト泣く

    ミナト、クシナの覚悟は違うものへと。
    クシナのチャクラはナルトの再会のためにと。八卦封印。
    九尾のほうは屍鬼封尽すると。

    止めるクシナ
    ミナトは九尾の半分だけ自分に封印
    半分を八卦封印でナルトへ

    この子は未来を切り開いてくれる。
    なんたって俺たちの息子なんだから。

    印を結んで
    屍鬼封尽!!


    503 : Minatos Shiki Fuujin !

    Minato managed to hit Madara with Rasengan.
    And he manages to mark Madara with a Hiraishin Tag.
    Madaras left hand is wounded.

    Madara tries to remove the tag but the kunai wound is deep.

    Minato use Keiyaku Fuuin on Madara. As a result, Madara cant control Kyuubi anymore.

    The Sharingan type motion disappear from Kyuubis eyes.

    Irukas mother is seen. She protects Iruka from attack.
    Irukas father is running away.

    Iruka : Father and mother are still fighting

    Konoha is on the verge of being destroyed.

    Kyuubi is going outside Konoha.

    Sandaime goes on the offensive.

    Madara says The Kyuubi will be mine sooner or later.

    Iruka is removed from the battlefield by a jounin.

    Kurenais father, Kakashi, Kurenai, are talking to Gai. Nidaime is talking to Hiruzen and Danzou.

    Kyuubi fires a Cero ( LOL ), Minato summons Gamabunta

    Minato talks to Kushina about sealing the Kyuubi again. Using a Space/Time Ninjutsu, to moves him far, far away.

    Minato appears where Naruto and Kushina are.

    Minato is out of chakra.

    Kushina uses Chakra chains of doom to capture Kyuubi.

    Naruto is crying from all the commotion.

    Kushina is dead serious about dealing with the Kyuubi to gain some time.

    Minato and Kushina goes on a love confession.

    Minato cries ( Like fater, like son )

    Kushina uses her chakra to she can meet Naruto someday and use a 8 Divination Seal Type on Naruto.

    While Minato will Shiki Fuujin.

    Kushina stops.

    Minato will seal only half of the Kyuubi in himself.
    And then seal all of it on Narutos 8 Divination Seal.

    This kid will open up the future for us. Hes our kid after all.

    Minato makes the hand signs !
    Shiki Fuujin !
    Nice
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by niblack89 View Post
    The spoilers make me want to cry. So the mystery on were the other half on the kyuubi's chakra is solved it's in Sasuke the shinigami. All my questions were solved. Just as long as Tobi got his ass kicked by Minato I loved this guiden. He better not be the real Madara, it would prove that Minato was one of the strongest shinobi to live.
    --'

    It was known all along were the other half of the chakra was: in the death reaper seal.For several chapters now, we know that minato separated the foxs chakra in two halfs (the yin and yang) using the death reaper seal. Then, Kushina SEALED the yin half in Naruto, using a four elements seal and the yang part was sealed in the death reaper seal, along with minato's soul.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    In Kakashi-gaiden Minato didn't had much trouble killing off people >.>
    that's what i thought. he killed that guy after kakashi got sliced and those 50 ninja too.
     
         

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    Just wondering because I cba to make a thread on it, how is Tobi meant to resurrect the Jubi if half of the Nine-Tail's Chakra is sealed away permanently....
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisamexRocks View Post
    Here is the thing, Kisame has been with Samehada for almost all his life so the bond they share is probably pretty strong. I think the Samehada has an ability to detect faults and false chakra even if it is copied. Kisame and Samehada must have an unknown link between the two that Samehada is able to determine whether it is a clone or the real Kisame. Also it just says he can copy the chakra, it is never stated that Zetsu can copy the Strength and Chakra levels of the person he touches.

    If you look at the image Samehada is already in it's form, the spikes are just going back into Kisame. From that point Zetsu must have switched right then and there,while Kisame was unmerging and that's when Zetsu appeared. Zetsu's Kisame clone was holding Samehada when the real Kisame was already within Samehada. So the clone was still going back to normal when the real Kisame is hiding inside Samehada. Samehada was most likely working on the plan alongside Kisame. he must have told Samehada what to do to start acting like it is liking the Hachibi more, just so it would seem that Samehada actually likes Hachibi, to gain his trust and allow an easier infiltration.

    That doesn't mean i am saying it's Zetsu. The fighting style is the same as when Madara faced Fu and Torune. it was for wasting time so that the fox would destroy Konoha. Since Minato was most likely able to stop the fox, Madara wanted to stop Minato as much as possible so the fox will continue it's rampage. That doesn't mean that Madara was actually a Zetsu clone, otherwise Zetsu would be able to just use Madara's ability to travel through the countries at lightning speed. But he doesn't because he had never used a copy of Madara that we know of.

    You have to realize that the reason Madara was hit by the Rasengan was because of the time and the speed at which Minato used his Flying thunder god 2 technique. Madara needs to become solid to attack and that's what he was trying to do. He wasn't fast enough and that's why he lost against Minato. Like I said, Zetsu can copy the chakra of the person he touches, it is never said that the chakra means the actual chakra LEVEL and not the chakra TYPE. perhaps he can use the techniques but cannot use the techniques at the FULL power that the REAL individual would be able to.

    The reason they put up an impressive fight is because they were controlled by the actual person. Those were not Zetsu's clones, they were actual individuals that were being controlled by Kisame himself and Itachi himself.

    Yes there you go, Zetsu was used as a distraction to infiltrate Kumogakure, and that was when the Zetsu clone was holding Samehada and Kisame right after the Dome disappeared.
    For the most part, this is all correct, but I think Zetsu can copy the chakra type. If he were not able to, then he would not exactly be able to create a duplicate of another person's chakra, now would he? We don't know the exact mechanics of his technique, but they are impressive to say the least - at least for infiltration purposes.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMax2012 View Post
    Just wondering because I cba to make a thread on it, how is Tobi meant to resurrect the Jubi if half of the Nine-Tail's Chakra is sealed away permanently....
    Good question. Maybe to ressurect the Jubi he only needs SOME chakra and his MIND/WILL.
     
         

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