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    Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    What can the Shinobi Alliance do to battle Madara?

    Madara has reached Godly levels of power right now and even if Naruto and Sasuke were in good condition,
    working together with the Shinobi Alliance, they probably could still not take Madara down like how they
    managed to defeat Obito.

    So what can be done to take on Madara?

    The people OUTSIDE right now, around Madara, are not capable enough to take on Madara.
    So Madara needs to be taken on from the INSIDE.

    I believe the jutsu that Hashirama gave to Sasuke will be a Senjutsu binding ability.
    This binding will respond to Hashirama's powers in Madara's and prevent
    Madara from being able to the powers of Hashirama, that Madara has collected
    and made part of himself.

    Madara started to feel heavy in his CHEST(where the Hashi face is btw) and began to puke out the Sage's tools.
    This could be the first sign of the binding starting to affect him.
    His body wont be able to handle what he sealed inside him anymore.

    Hashirama doesnt want to kill Madara. He knows Madara from when they were kids and he
    see's him as a good person. Taking away all of Madara's enhancements like Hashirama's sage
    mode and Mokuton for example, would bring him back more to his former self.
    Hashirama wants to save Madara.

    Unlike Naruto and Bee (who befriended their bijou to control the power), Obito didnt do such a thing.
    Obito managed to keep control over Juubi, because of caring for who he is (Obito Uchiha) and
    for his ties to this world (his friends, Kakashi and Rin and his sensei Minato). Basically a strong will and love.
    We see how Obito didnt want to lose himself and still had ties to the world, even though for long,
    he couldnt admit it.

    Madara doesn have something similar. He isnt befriended with the Juubi and he doenst hold any ties to this world
    and the people on it anymore. He lost hope for the world and all he cares about is the infinite Tsukuyomi.
    The method he uses right now to control Juubi is basically supressing the Juubi with certain powers
    (jutsus like eyes, sage mode and the likes). Once Hashirama's jutsu starts to take full effect,
    Madara would have to resort to other ways to hold control over Juubi, but he wont have any.
    He will have to release the Juubi or the Juubi will break free.

    Once the Juubi is free, what can the Shinobi Alliance do to prevent it from going berserk?

    The one person who has a chance to prevent the Juubi from going berserk on the people is Naruto.
    He already gained the trust of bijous like:
    Matatabi (2tails), Isobu (3tails), Son Goku(4tails), Kokuo(5tails), Saiken (6tails) Choumei (7tails).
    However Naruto had not gained trust from all parts in the previous Juubi that was in Obito.
    Shukaku didnt trust Gaara nor other humans, except the previous jinchuriki before Gaara,
    the 8 tails tentacle was from a time where the 8 tails hadnt met Naruto yet
    and the 9 tails parts (from Kinkaku and Ginkaku) were pieces of Kurama before he met Naruto.

    Shukaku trusts humans now as well (seeing how Gaara protected him vs Madara and how
    Gaara considered Shukaku and him equals (giving Shukaku flashbacks of his previous jinchuriki's words)
    and he knows Gaara is thankful to Shukaku for meeting Naruto thanks to him (being a jinchuriki) and
    befriending Naruto. Naruto and Gaara saved Shukaku from Obito.
    Gyuki the 8 tails who is in the Gedo in Madara right now, has become a friend of Naruto as well and
    the Yang Kurama that is in Madara, is obviously a friend of Naruto too.
    So Naruto has befriended all the bijou, that make the new Juubi in Madara.

    Naruto needs to communicate with the new Juubi in order to make it remember Naruto
    when Juubi was still 9 parts, so it can gain its trust
    and to find peace with each other through understanding.

    What are your thoughts on the theory?


    Summary:
    *Hashirama's jutsu that he gave to Sasuke, will bind Hashirama's powers in
    Madara, like the Hashirama sage mode.
    *Madara wont be able to hold Juubi without those powers.
    *This time, all the bijou in Juubi are befriended by Naruto and
    he needs to make Juubi remember Naruto from the time it was 9 parts,
    so that they can communicate with each other and to find a
    mutual understanding.
     
         
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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Not reading that, summarize.
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Some SO6P as-pull.
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Lmao, i didn't read, i just read the summary <:
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    its a good theory. I think that the Hashirama thing is going to happen because even Kishi can't defeat madara right now.
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by copy ninja hatake kakashi View Post
    its a good theory. I think that the Hashirama thing is going to happen because even Kishi can't defeat madara right now.
    Thanks.
    Hehe, yeah, Madara might jump from the paper and attack Kishi IRL.
    That is how powerful he has become
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Someone pls give me a breakdown on this?
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Makes sense. The only reason Madara is the Juubi host is because he has sage and senju chakra. If he loses control, he can't maintain his juubi form.

    However, I'm hoping that Madara needs to be weakened in battle before he loses control of everything.
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCloudsBlackLightning View Post
    Makes sense. The only reason Madara is the Juubi host is because he has sage and senju chakra. If he loses control, he can't maintain his juubi form.

    However, I'm hoping that Madara needs to be weakened in battle before he loses control of everything.
    Thanks.
    Yeah I dont mean that he should lose control in like a few seconds. That would make the manga less interesting to read , but losing the control is what would happen eventually I think. After being weakened in battle as you say.

    There are still some people who could battle Madara (not defeat him).
    Sasuke having some mysterious person near him could enter the fight.
    The mysterious person could (it is Kabuto )
    Oro with team taka is still around.
    Hiruzen still needs to show why he was called the god of shinobi.
    Naruto will come back to life.
    Kakashi, Gaara, Sakura and Minato are around.

    If Madara starts to have trouble controlling his powers, than these people have an easier time to at least sorta put up a fight.
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Good theory. I am trying to wrap my head around why Hashirama felt that Sasuke's resemblance to Izuna would somehow make a difference in fighting Madara. I'm also wondering if this had anything to do with the Jutsu Hashirama gave to Sasuke however your theory makes more sense as it relates directly to Hashirama's abilities
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Madara still has to make the Shinjū bloom though
     
         

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    Re: Hey Madara! There goes your Juubi

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyakusetsu View Post
    Good theory. I am trying to wrap my head around why Hashirama felt that Sasuke's resemblance to Izuna would somehow make a difference in fighting Madara. I'm also wondering if this had anything to do with the Jutsu Hashirama gave to Sasuke however your theory makes more sense as it relates directly to Hashirama's abilities
    Thanks.
    One of the things I need to work on though I feel is my layout.
    People seem to get quite discouraged to read a theory, if it consists of a bit of text without editing or pictures .

    I have thought about Hashirama's words as well, how Sasuke could remind him of Izuna.
    However, Madara repeated these words of Hashirama (from back in the VotE), in front of Sasuke and Tobirama. It could mean that Madara is willing to do anything, to protect the Tsukuyomi dream, just as Hashirama was willing to do anything, to protect the village or he repeated those words more in payback kind of way towards Tobirama, who pleaded to not kill Sasuke. Reminding him he doesnt do much different than Hashirama, in protecting his dream. I feel this could be what Madara was trying to point out.

    Madara did give Sasuke a chance, time, to decide to join him though or decide what to do, maybe due to recognizing Izuna in him or just because they are the last Uchiha as he said, or both. Madara's words might indicate that he considers Sasuke to be among those important people that he is willing to kill to protect his dream.

    I dont think it matters that much for the theory right now if Madara is reminded of Izuna by Sasuke's appearance or not.
    We could see more of that at a later stage in the story.
     
         

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