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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    In any way sasuke will Be good
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Sach- View Post
    If both of them are same, then Kishi need to find a way to explain how he survived.
    If we connect the dots I can also see a possibility of Madara being saved by 'this guy', without Madara knowing, because Madara never mentioned this guy or talked about him, not even in front of Obito, or tried to take him into consideration despite of having sage mode at this moment.
    He always thought that he managed to escape without dying, and rather never actually tried to decipher how he did(Madara is actually too much happy go lucky guy, and has that habit of acting like a boss.)
    Again you will ask me, why I assume that Madara doesn't know about him, I am assuming it because Madara could have used that guy differently but he never did, even when Obito became Juubi jin.
    Maybe he couldn't find him or maybe... he thought that he have killed him. To tell you the truth I'm not certain either. 1 thing is for sure, that time Hashirama did see a person and that one certainly wasn't Madara.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

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    Also, if we consider that it's the same person Hashirama saw back then against Madara, then it would be more like a re- introduction.


    It is because if you go by saying that this is the right one, what makes you think that all the other accounts aren't his own as well? There are many people who just do that to get followers. How can you say the difference?
    The copyright in the description (you can be sued for that kinda thing ya know)
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron123 View Post
    Maybe he couldn't find him or maybe... he thought that he have killed him. To tell you the truth I'm not certain either. 1 thing is for sure, that time Hashirama did see a person and that one certainly wasn't Madara.
    Actually, I am not sure either, let's see what happens.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    I actually thought the same I think this is an very interesting theory dude, but I must say that Uzomaki part is a lil tricky, but let's see what'll happen next.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by dkkurdo View Post
    I actually thought the same I think this is an very interesting theory dude, but I must say that Uzomaki part is a lil tricky, but let's see what'll happen next.
    I agree about the uzumaki part being a little shaky but I just said the particular clan because its clansmen have great vitality and because it would be a nice plot twist to see an uzumaki coming in the game.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    I agree that it might be the same person who was in valley of the end at that time.

    I would like it to be the elder son. Wanting peace through power but due to old age and the methods to prolong his life he couldn't do it himself so he influenced Madara behind the scenes and saved him without Madara knowing. (this is very farfetched and probably not gonna happen though )
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Byron123 View Post
    Ok I'll get straight to the point:



    In this page we see that Hashirama clearly saw somebody. If you go by saying that this man is Madara himself, I'll say no because he can't have just used Izanagi. The reason for that is that we have already seen how it works (Danzo's case) and at that time whenever Danzo was supposedly about to die his "false" him had been disappearing. Therefore, if we were to say that Madara used Izanagi, it's obvious that he didn't because it didn't apply the same way it did on Danzo. Furthermore, Hashirama's certainty based on his vast knowledge of his rival's capacities leads me to believe that he says the truth.



    Being said all that, that person must have been a real individual. Ofc, he can't have been a zetsu clone since Madara hadn't yet obtained Hashirama's dna and so he couldn't have started making experiments by creating Zetsu clones. If we agree that that "something" was an actual individual, then we can also agree that no one could have survived after such a long time to be the one standing behind Sasuke right now, well that's it unless he has some extraordinary vitality. Before, I go any futher I would like you to examine very carefully that guy's shadow:



    I don't know about you guys but for me his shadow seems to bear some very distinctive characteristics. On his shoulders it's as if you can see very small flames while his head looks as if he has 2 horns one small and one bigger. Now you might say that this is completely subjective but we can all agree on one thing, this shadow is not completely normal, it has that something, call it whatever you want. Furthermore, as for those who'll say that this person is Kabuto, I'll answer no for 2 reasons. First Karin doesn't recognise his chakra even though she has come in contact with him, secondly, even if you say that his chakra has been altered because of his experiments, you can't just pass by Karin's description: has a really terrible feeling to it! Even if he was Kabuto, his escape from Izanami would mean that change of his mindset and therefore his "evil" chakra. If you go by saying that he's jsut another Spiral Zetsu I would answer no for reasons of aesthetics. Right now, Spiral Zetsu is a huge mystery and you just can't throw a bunch of them, it would ruin the whole atmosphere. Besides, the whole point in him is that he's unique, if more than one had managed to be created, why wouldn't Madara or Obito use them before?


    Based on all that, I think that the person Hashirama back then and the one Karin saw now is one and the same. More importantly, I'll say that he's from the uzumaki clan and that's the reason he has survived this long. Even the the amount of time is too big, I do believe that Uzumaki can find ways to prolong their lives this much. Ofc, this is just a hypothesis. In any case, the reason I'm saying this is because of Hashirama's certainty back then. Having confirmed that that thing he saw back then was an actual individual, and being certain that he can't have lived for so long without being a special case, I believe that it's impossible for him to be a normal person from Madara's and Hashirama's era.

    I know that my theory is quite shaky but this time I'll believe my instinct. Being someone we already know and whom we all have predicted is just too cliche and something that Kishi doesn't want to. A prime example of such certainty was our belief as to how Minato would have given Naruto the other half to become complete or the other half to just surive. In both cases we were utterly mistaken. Unless, you go by questioning Hashirama's certainty after all the battles he had against Madara, you just have to accept that at that time Hashirama did see something, it wasn't just some wind that blew.


    Conclusion: The person Hashirama saw back then and the one Karin felt now is the one and the same.
    I think it will be shisui didn't spell it right oh well
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    When i started reading i wanted to refer you to my thread about izanagi and EMS about how madara escaped dead with izanagi.. but with making that thread i didn't think about that madara was shown after hashirama looked up that cliff..

    but anyway as far as the dude at sasuke's is concerned.. at this point i'll just wait till wednesday in stead of speculating about it.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Flying Thunder God View Post
    I think it will be shisui didn't spell it right oh well
    I highly doubt abou that, Itachi himself said that Shisui incinerated his body so nobody would find him and therefore Itachi did see him. Besides, what would be the morality of the story? That every uchiha is never the way he looks like?
    Quote Originally Posted by SixPathsOfTobi View Post
    When i started reading i wanted to refer you to my thread about izanagi and EMS about how madara escaped dead with izanagi.. but with making that thread i didn't think about that madara was shown after hashirama looked up that cliff..

    but anyway as far as the dude at sasuke's is concerned.. at this point i'll just wait till wednesday in stead of speculating about it.
    Me too but you know, I just wanted to have my chance to tell my opinion as well on this strange puzzle.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaE20 View Post
    Nope Kishimoto said on his Facebook page that we'd never guess who it is. The notion that it's possible to guess means that we have seen him.
    lmao kishi mo to on facebook lol scam
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    It's danzo , he is an anbu member ,he had more experience in battle and when he saw obito(madara) he was still calm so he must have hide something to survive
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by anilz View Post
    It's danzo , he is an anbu member ,he had more experience in battle and when he saw obito(madara) he was still calm so he must have hide something to survive
    Do you even take into account that this guy blew himself into pieces and he's right now dead?
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    It's kabuto no doubt about it. It could only be him, itachi already gave us the clue 1. The fact that kabuto had free himself by believing in himself andnhis powers will make him want to help out in this war since he's responsible for half the stuff that has happened. 2. straight up sasuke needs some with medical ninjutsu -kabuto with sage knowledge and 3. I dont think at this stage kishi will throw a new character at us now.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by lion fang master View Post
    It's kabuto no doubt about it. It could only be him, itachi already gave us the clue 1. The fact that kabuto had free himself by believing in himself andnhis powers will make him want to help out in this war since he's responsible for half the stuff that has happened. 2. straight up sasuke needs some with medical ninjutsu -kabuto with sage knowledge and 3. I dont think at this stage kishi will throw a new character at us now.
    And what about Karin's strange reaction? Also, If the person I thinkk he is, is the one that helped Madara back then against Hashirama it would be more like a formal intronduction, not someone completely new.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    I like the theory. Could be madara's comrade and would explain the "I'm nurturing a new eye" comment he made to tobirama. But on the other hand he could be kabuto, not that it would make sense since karin doesn't seem familiar with his chakra.
     
         
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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    It could be Kabuto but it also could be anyone else. I'm hoping it's a new a character or one we don't really know about.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    It actually makes sense for Kishi to make the mysterious person an uzumaki. Kishi hasn't really touched on the Uzumaki much, it would be cool for him to include more information of the Uzuamki using this person.
     
         

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    Re: The mysterious person is someone that we haven't seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omar19992010 View Post
    It could be Kabuto but it also could be anyone else. I'm hoping it's a new a character or one we don't really know about.
    Exactly, I think that it would be a huge troll for Kishi to make him Kabuto just to heal Sasuke and then leave him as side character with no further use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanji.. View Post
    It actually makes sense for Kishi to make the mysterious person an uzumaki. Kishi hasn't really touched on the Uzumaki much, it would be cool for him to include more information of the Uzuamki using this person.
    Indeed, I can't wait to see who the hell he actually is.
     
         

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