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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Quote Originally Posted by Senju Bean View Post
    Nothing faster than Gravity. It might as well be infinite speed since it is the fastest speed, by far.
    DO you know that it is gravity? No you dont. Now, just give me one scientific example of gravitys speed.
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    About the Krytonite, Juubito was able to lift mountain sized Tori like a feather, let alone breaking his back. Obviously there is a debilatatiing weakness associated against SM since a mountain level behemoth normally would be unfased by a Rasengan, unless there was a very specific weakness.

    He doesn't have a weakness to senjutsu, he is basically invulnerable to everything else. He is just vulnerable to it.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

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    Nothing faster than Gravity my friend. NOTHING
    light is faster than gravity.and i stick to what i said before
     
         

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    man **** obito son
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowthulhu45 View Post
    DO you know that it is gravity? No you dont. Now, just give me one scientific example of gravitys speed.



    He doesn't have a weakness to senjutsu, he is basically invulnerable to everything else. He is just vulnerable to it.
    It's obvious that it is. Kishi has no reason to trick us.

    Gravity moves at c, which is 299 792 458 m / s. This is the fastest speed in the entire universe. There is no way to exceed this speed as it would require literally infinite energy.


    Wrong. Then his body would be even more dense than the Third Raikage. Someone that is strong enough to have trillions of tons of Tori on his back, would have inhumanly dense muscles and bone stucture. Logically, someone that strong cannot be hurt by the force of a Rasengan. Unless..... the Rasengan was "poisonous"
     
         
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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

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    light is faster than gravity.and i stick to what i said before
    They both move at the same speed!! For crying out loud, did no one pay attention in high school physics?
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Quote Originally Posted by Senju Bean View Post
    He is not the original owner of the Rinnegan. As such, he can't even gain a small piece of it's true power.
    Well this makes much sense if what you say is true then Nagato should not even be able to use a technique since he is not the orginal owner of the rinnegan and he isn't even an Uchiha you Solo'd yourself
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Quote Originally Posted by Senju Bean View Post
    It's obvious that it is. Kishi has no reason to trick us.

    Gravity moves at c, which is 299 792 458 m / s. This is the fastest speed in the entire universe. There is no way to exceed this speed as it would require literally infinite energy.


    Wrong. Then is body would be even more dense than the third raikage. Someone that is strong enough to have trillions of tons of Tori on his back, would not in anyway have inhumanly dense muscles and bone stucture. Logically, someone that strong cannot be hurt by the force of a Rasengan. Unless..... the Rasengan was "poisonous"
    An attack that's nature is unknown does not mean kishi is trying to trick us. It doesn't have to be gravity just because it is a rinnegan tech.

    Anyway, he didnt lift the tori, he destroyed them.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

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    They both move at the same speed!! For crying out loud, did no one pay attention in high school physics?
    isnt that a theory that hasnt been proven? dont know much about it but i do know that there isnt anything as fast as light.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Quote Originally Posted by GodOfThunderAndLightning View Post
    Well this makes much sense if what you say is true then Nagato should not even be able to use a technique since he is not the orginal owner of the rinnegan and he isn't even an Uchiha you Solo'd yourself
    The moon is billions of times bigger than the CT Nagato made.

    If you consider 1/1,000,000,000 to be a fraction in practice, then be by guest. But to me, that fraction is basically zero.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

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    isnt that a theory that hasnt been proven? dont know much about it but i do know that there isnt anything as fast as light.
    It is well documented that gravity itself is massless and hence moves at the speed of light. You see, light is also massless and hence can move at this maximum speed. Any massless particle or wave moves at this speed.

    All of this is proven emprically and also has firm mathematical foundations that has been established for nearly a century.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Quote Originally Posted by Senju Bean View Post
    It is well documented that gravity itself is massless and hence moves at the speed of light. You see, light is also massless and hence can move at this maximum speed. Any massless particle or wave moves at this speed.

    All of this is proven emprically and also has firm mathematical foundations that has been established for nearly a century.
    i suck at physics to be honest.

    however where you do have proof that this is true in our world,you do not have proof that it is true in the naruto world.

    we dont know for sure that RH is instantaneous.

    some time we even thought amaterasu was instantaneous,but it isnt.

    furthermore we dont even know if it was a senjutsu based attack like naruto`s rasengan was.naruto infused senjutsu energy around the rasengan...that`s why it stroke obito. can madara do the same? infuse natural energy around the attack,inexperienced with the sage mode as he is? in my honest opinion he cannot....but maybe he can.we dont know for sure. because of these reasons i say it`s more likely that obito would win
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    *one question... does light bend due to gravity? if the answer is no... then light is faster... its the fastest known matter in the universe...
    e=mc2
    is there correlation between light and gravity? does light move faster on the moon than the earth?? wat about in space where gravity is zero?

    *2 gravity is not speed... its the pull on an object, averaging about 10ms. drop a piano and a pin and they reach ground same time... equal pull only difference is air resistance...
    *3 gravity on moon is less than on earth, jupiter stronger dan earth... so which gravity. is faster dan light... is the pull at 10ms faster than light??
     
         

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    *one question... does light bend due to gravity? if the answer is no... then light is faster... its the fastest known matter in the universe...
    e=mc2
    is there correlation between light and gravity? does light move faster on the moon than the earth?? wat about in space where gravity is zero?

    *2 gravity is not speed... its the pull on an object, averaging about 10ms. drop a piano and a pin and they reach ground same time... equal pull only difference is air resistance...
    *3 gravity on moon is less than on earth, jupiter stronger dan earth... so which gravity. is faster dan light... is the pull at 10ms faster than light??
    Light is affected by gravity. That's what makes black holes black. The light can't escape it's force.

    Also, you seem misinformed about gravity. The acceleration of an object at earth gravity with no wind resistance is 9.8 M/s Per seconds. It isn't speed.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    you dont seem to know wat yu toking about. s=d/t( speed equals distance traveled in time)
    so if object moves at 10m/s wats the speed.. easy.. 9.8=10 round off...
    as i said gravity is pull and nothing to do with speed. so u cant say gravity is faster than light...
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Deva path isnt gravity let alone super black hole gravity power at that.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

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    Nothing faster than Gravity. It might as well be infinite speed since it is the fastest speed, by far.
    Dark energy is faster.
     
         

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    you dont seem to know wat yu toking about. s=d/t( speed equals distance traveled in time)
    so if object moves at 10m/s wats the speed.. easy.. 9.8=10 round off...
    as i said gravity is pull and nothing to do with speed. so u cant say gravity is faster than light...
    Not sure what you mean. I meant that the gravity on earth will pull things towards it at an acceleration (Not Speed) Of 9.8 Meters per second Per second.

    I am not saying gravity is faster than light. I'm pretty sure gravity can't even have speed.

    As for whatever deva path is, It isn't gravity. Otherwise Shinra Tensei could not exist. You cannot have Negative gravity.
     
         
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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    rinbo hengoku that didnt even scratch gaara

    go back to your cave troll
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

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    rinbo hengoku that didnt even scratch gaara

    go back to your cave troll

    Just look at this image and figure it out.


     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Quote Originally Posted by 3MESSIAH View Post
    i suck at physics to be honest.

    however where you do have proof that this is true in our world,you do not have proof that it is true in the naruto world.

    we dont know for sure that RH is instantaneous.

    some time we even thought amaterasu was instantaneous,but it isnt.

    furthermore we dont even know if it was a senjutsu based attack like naruto`s rasengan was.naruto infused senjutsu energy around the rasengan...that`s why it stroke obito. can madara do the same? infuse natural energy around the attack,inexperienced with the sage mode as he is? in my honest opinion he cannot....but maybe he can.we dont know for sure. because of these reasons i say it`s more likely that obito would win
    In a way, Naruto is somewhat based off of the real world. That is how we can relate to the manga. The sky is blue, water reflects, things fall down instead of fall up etc.

    So in a sense, Naruto uses real life physics unless there is a very specific reason it needs to be violated to make the manga more interesting. For example, the existence of Chakra.

    But Kishi showed no indication that gravity doesn't work in NV. It seems to work. Things fall down instead of up.


    With Naruto, Kabuto, and Hashirama, everything is stronger in SM. So why not Madara since he is in Sage Mode? It's not about experience. Mastery is determined by appearance. SM Naruto looks more human than SM Jiyaria because Naruto mastered it. Madara didn't turn out all weird so that indicates that Madara mastered SM.
     
         

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    Its sad for those who disagree with the thread. Really sad.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

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    Nothing faster than Gravity my friend. NOTHING
    it don't have to be gravity because 8 tails broke out of chibonku tensi like nothing and the gravity is so strong it can hold up a moon rinbo hengoku could be an attack unseeable and unavoidable it could be an attack from a different dimension
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Juubito doesn't have kryptonite like weakness to senjutsu. It's just that senjutsu is the only thing that can hit Juubito. Sort of like only Haki can be used to his Logia's in one piece.
     
         

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    Re: Non Jin Rinnegan Madara>>>Jubbito

    Quote Originally Posted by Rokudaime Hokage Naruto View Post
    Juubito doesn't have kryptonite like weakness to senjutsu. It's just that senjutsu is the only thing that can hit Juubito. Sort of like only Haki can be used to his Logia's in one piece.
    Then why did a Rasengan hurt Jubbito when a FRS did nothing to the Jubbi, despite Jubbito being far more stronger and durable?
     
         

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    I just realised. Since RH is just raw pushing force (Putting aside the gravity Crap right now, It's physicaly impossible anyway), It wont actually be able to hurt obito, It would just Smash him into something. You know, a good old fashioned Senjutsu Rock. If only those existed.
     
         

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