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    Re: Naruto Manga 503 Discussion and 504 Predictions

    In going along with the kyuubi getting 'chained down' again, what do you guys think??

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...i-bondage.html
     
         

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    another interesting information:

    madara would have to get the body of the fourth and naruto in order to extract the complete nine tail demon fox which I am sure madara is not aware of.

    Theory:

    So if somehow madara manages to get hold of naruto's nine tail demon yang chakra, perhaps the ten tail demon won't have its full powers or at extreme case it won't even come to back to life.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by yondaimeminato View Post
    another interesting information:

    madara would have to get the body of the fourth and naruto in order to extract the complete nine tail demon fox which I am sure madara is not aware of.

    Theory:

    So if somehow madara manages to get hold of naruto's nine tail demon yang chakra, perhaps the ten tail demon won't have its full powers or at extreme case it won't even come to back to life.
    Nice thinking. Or if Naruto gets captured for some reason. Maybe he doesn`t die like the rest when extracted because he has only the "half" of the Kyubi?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by yondaimeminato View Post
    another interesting information:

    madara would have to get the body of the fourth and naruto in order to extract the complete nine tail demon fox which I am sure madara is not aware of.

    Theory:

    So if somehow madara manages to get hold of naruto's nine tail demon yang chakra, perhaps the ten tail demon won't have its full powers or at extreme case it won't even come to back to life.
    I thought when shinobi die thier bodies are destroyed so the enemy can't get any info or jutsu or whatever from them? So if that's the case then....where's the other half?
    Maybe Itachi had it and that was his gift to Naruto? The 9 tail was Itachi's responsibility.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 503 Discussion and 504 Predictions

    OK this again shows the epicness of the fourth the shinobi who had the third with them struggled with the kybuui and he came and made the difference i hope people stop saying he's all hype now cause thats not the case he's the only one that beat tobi so far and even drew blood. I'm just waiting for the "Madara wasn't in his prime" comments that doesn't matter now.
    One thing though does this mean that the the power that the 9 tails uses now is half of its true power then thats just terrifying right there. I also can see how the 10tails can be revived with out naruto losing the fox Madara can seal back the in chakra if he can and use that.
    Can some one tell me if the lump seen when minato going up is that lump was him using earth jutsu or just a rock that was like that because of the battle.
    Any way great chapter the man truly was the greatest Hokage the 1st realy did have it easy then because he can suppress the fox Minato couldn't.How great he was the only ninja that could kill him was himself
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruler Michael View Post
    Nice thinking. Or if Naruto gets captured for some reason. Maybe he doesn`t die like the rest when extracted because he has only the "half" of the Kyubi?
    and because he has the blood of the uzumaki clan, he won't die just like his mother didn't die when the nine tail demon fox came out of her. It's only half right, so I think naruto won't die if this were to ever happen
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamahiro View Post
    I thought when shinobi die thier bodies are destroyed so the enemy can't get any info or jutsu or whatever from them? So if that's the case then....where's the other half?
    Maybe Itachi had it and that was his gift to Naruto? The 9 tail was Itachi's responsibility.
    ANBU's body gets destroyed from what I read.

    I think minato has a honorable grave, just like the third had when he died. The seal should be in minato's belly. A seal somewhat similar to the one naruto has. I remember the third performing this type of jutsu and when he finished a seal formed in his belly.

    I don't know as to where the other half might possibly be I can only give you guesses. Some people say it's gone lost inside the reaper space forever. I just think it's inside minato's belly seal.
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamahiro View Post
    I thought when shinobi die thier bodies are destroyed so the enemy can't get any info or jutsu or whatever from them? So if that's the case then....where's the other half?
    Maybe Itachi had it and that was his gift to Naruto? The 9 tail was Itachi's responsibility.
    Never thought of that. Maybe Yondaime made some sort of key to accuire the second half so that if Naruto learned to control the kyubi in the future, he can get the key to get the rest of the fox? Maybe he gave it to Sarutobi which gave/lost it to Itachi? Or maybe even Kushina has it?! Many possibilities here..

    Quote Originally Posted by yondaimeminato View Post
    and because he has the blood of the uzumaki clan, he won't die just like his mother didn't die when the nine tail demon fox came out of her. It's only half right, so I think naruto won't die if this were to ever happen
    Yeah, good one
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 503 Discussion and 504 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by yondaimeminato View Post
    another interesting information:

    madara would have to get the body of the fourth and naruto in order to extract the complete nine tail demon fox which I am sure madara is not aware of.

    Theory:

    So if somehow madara manages to get hold of naruto's nine tail demon yang chakra, perhaps the ten tail demon won't have its full powers or at extreme case it won't even come to back to life.
    Maybe that's what he does. Who knows, perhaps Madara has stored Minato's body in some location, and will use it again when resurrecting the Jubi. From what I remember, Konoha never found Minato's body after he died sealing the Nine-Tailed Fox into Naruto.

    But that is an interesting thought. I have another theory as well; in order for tailed beasts to be sealed in the Demon Sealing Statue, it is best that they be extracted from their host.

    Naruto 260 page 19 | One Manga

    Yes, there is an exception with the Three-Tailed Beast, but in this statue, the Nine-Tailed Fox must be sealed last, or the statue will crumble. Having said this, did Madara purposely let himself be defeated by Minato, so he would gain the oppurtunity to seal part of the Nine-Tails' chakra within himself, and the other in Naruto? Consider this - it would take a long time for Akatsuki to capture all the other beasts before the fox, and Madara would have to keep it under control until the sealing of the Nine-Tails comes. I'm sure that would be difficult if not impossible to do, so to ease his work Madara played himself off weaker than he really is so Minato would do exactly what he wanted.

    If the Nine-Tails were not to be sealed that night (and destroyed Konoha, speaking hypothetically), then Madara would have to restrain the fox for many months, if not years, until they would finally be able to seal the Nine-Tailed Fox. Somehow that just doesn't seem likely. Minato said himself Madara would not be able to exert control of the Nine-Tailed Fox for very long, so perhaps Madara gave Minato the oppurtunity to seal the fox so he could come back for it years later. Madara himself said "someday, it will be mine again." Each time Madara discloses part of his plans, he always emerges with the intention of carrying out his words. This is a theory of mine, and it might be wrong - but if Minato did indeed defeat Madara, it would not explain why Minato had such a helpless expression in chapter 440? The word "everything" in "back then...he saw through everything I did," would not be the correct choice of words then, now would it?

    Of course, I do not doubt the fact that Minato probably defeated Madara, but I just wanted to hear everyone's opinions on my theory. Thanks.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 503 Discussion and 504 Predictions

    I just noticed that Naruto was actually born with those marks on his cheeks. Always thought they were on because of the fox. But anyway awesome chapter and does anyone know what the cover is talking about? Is it a new movie or something?
    Prediction: Will show abit more of Minato and then afterward we're back to the present.
     
         

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    Minato is the man he just kicked Madara's a$$
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by yondaimeminato View Post
    another interesting information:

    madara would have to get the body of the fourth and naruto in order to extract the complete nine tail demon fox which I am sure madara is not aware of.

    Theory:

    So if somehow madara manages to get hold of naruto's nine tail demon yang chakra, perhaps the ten tail demon won't have its full powers or at extreme case it won't even come to back to life.
    The other half was sealed in the death god's stomach. Not in Yondaime's body.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by silenceofthelambs View Post
    Maybe that's what he does. Who knows, perhaps Madara has stored Minato's body in some location, and will use it again when resurrecting the Jubi. From what I remember, Konoha never found Minato's body after he died sealing the Nine-Tailed Fox into Naruto.

    But that is an interesting thought. I have another theory as well; in order for tailed beasts to be sealed in the Demon Sealing Statue, it is best that they be extracted from their host.

    Naruto 260 page 19 | One Manga

    Yes, there is an exception with the Three-Tailed Beast, but in this statue, the Nine-Tailed Fox must be sealed last, or the statue will crumble. Having said this, did Madara purposely let himself be defeated by Minato, so he would gain the oppurtunity to seal part of the Nine-Tails' chakra within himself, and the other in Naruto? Consider this - it would take a long time for Akatsuki to capture all the other beasts before the fox, and Madara would have to keep it under control until the sealing of the Nine-Tails comes. I'm sure that would be difficult if not impossible to do, so to ease his work Madara played himself off weaker than he really is so Minato would do exactly what he wanted.

    If the Nine-Tails were not to be sealed that night (and destroyed Konoha, speaking hypothetically), then Madara would have to restrain the fox for many months, if not years, until they would finally be able to seal the Nine-Tailed Fox. Somehow that just doesn't seem likely. Minato said himself Madara would not be able to exert control of the Nine-Tailed Fox for very long, so perhaps Madara gave Minato the oppurtunity to seal the fox so he could come back for it years later. Madara himself said "someday, it will be mine again." Each time Madara discloses part of his plans, he always emerges with the intention of carrying out his words. This is a theory of mine, and it might be wrong - but if Minato did indeed defeat Madara, it would not explain why Minato had such a helpless expression in chapter 440? The word "everything" in "back then...he saw through everything I did," would not be the correct choice of words then, now would it?

    Of course, I do not doubt the fact that Minato probably defeated Madara, but I just wanted to hear everyone's opinions on my theory. Thanks.
    not to discredit your theory or anything but the third was right there. He saw minato performing his forbidden jutsu. Don't you think the third would have picked up minato's body and naruto then make an honorable ceremony to minato's death?

    But there are still other ways, madara would have got hold of minato's body.

    If your theory is right, then I don't really see how madara/ten tail demon could be stopped from then on.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by silenceofthelambs View Post
    Maybe that's what he does. Who knows, perhaps Madara has stored Minato's body in some location, and will use it again when resurrecting the Jubi. From what I remember, Konoha never found Minato's body after he died sealing the Nine-Tailed Fox into Naruto.

    But that is an interesting thought. I have another theory as well; in order for tailed beasts to be sealed in the Demon Sealing Statue, it is best that they be extracted from their host.

    Naruto 260 page 19 | One Manga

    Yes, there is an exception with the Three-Tailed Beast, but in this statue, the Nine-Tailed Fox must be sealed last, or the statue will crumble. Having said this, did Madara purposely let himself be defeated by Minato, so he would gain the oppurtunity to seal part of the Nine-Tails' chakra within himself, and the other in Naruto? Consider this - it would take a long time for Akatsuki to capture all the other beasts before the fox, and Madara would have to keep it under control until the sealing of the Nine-Tails comes. I'm sure that would be difficult if not impossible to do, so to ease his work Madara played himself off weaker than he really is so Minato would do exactly what he wanted.

    If the Nine-Tails were not to be sealed that night (and destroyed Konoha, speaking hypothetically), then Madara would have to restrain the fox for many months, if not years, until they would finally be able to seal the Nine-Tailed Fox. Somehow that just doesn't seem likely. Minato said himself Madara would not be able to exert control of the Nine-Tailed Fox for very long, so perhaps Madara gave Minato the oppurtunity to seal the fox so he could come back for it years later. Madara himself said "someday, it will be mine again." Each time Madara discloses part of his plans, he always emerges with the intention of carrying out his words. This is a theory of mine, and it might be wrong - but if Minato did indeed defeat Madara, it would not explain why Minato had such a helpless expression in chapter 440? The word "everything" in "back then...he saw through everything I did," would not be the correct choice of words then, now would it?

    Of course, I do not doubt the fact that Minato probably defeated Madara, but I just wanted to hear everyone's opinions on my theory. Thanks.
    Alright dude I know its just your theory but just think carefully and then you will understand that this theory will never work. Why on earth Madara will attack with the intention just to change the Jinchuuriki of the Kyuubi. Madara's plan was to attack and destroy Konoha, when Minato tried to stop the Kyuubi Madara interfered and had a fight with the Fourth and Minato was not only able to defeat him but also free the Kyuubi from Madara's control. Madara knew that he lost his chance and he went back he retreated. Minato then realized that such powerful ninja will obviously come back to destroy Konoha again. So the best thing to save the village and also the entire world from Madara he chose to seal the Kyuubi inside Naruto. And there is no info that Madara had created Akatsuki before this incident. Isn't it obvious after this he wanted revenge so badly that he joined Itachi in the Uchiha massacre then he created Akatsuki to again continue his plan of world and most probably after being defeated by Minato Madara changed his plan of just using the Kyuubi. But to revive the Juubi and becoming its Jinchuuriki and thus being the most powerful ninja. Dude I have to say you just tend to give Madara too much credit I know it was just your theory but if this is the case Madara doing it on purpose doesn't really make any sense at all
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Cowboy View Post
    The other half was sealed in the death god's stomach. Not in Yondaime's body.
    Yup that's how its suppose to be the user of the Demon Dead Seal will be trapped inside of it so Minato putting half the Kyuubi's chakra in Naruto and the other is trapped inside the Demon
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Cowboy View Post
    The other half was sealed in the death god's stomach. Not in Yondaime's body.
    Who is the Death God in this case? it's simply the seal. It's not a summon, or anything that you can go find. It's a sealing technique that takes the form of a Death God. But where is that Death God sealing actually, it's on the body of the caster.
     
         

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    Amazing chapter. Minato is amazing. Did anyone else notice on the cover page, kushinas hair had 9 little parts, kyuubi symbol! I loved this chapter. Kishimoto doesn't dissapoint. I really can't wait for the next chapter.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by yondaimeminato View Post
    Who is the Death God in this case? it's simply the seal. It's not a summon, or anything that you can go find. It's a sealing technique that takes the form of a Death God. But where is that Death God sealing actually, it's on the body of the caster.
    Hey, everyone. Go find Sarutobi's body. You will find the 1st, 2nd, 3rd,d and Oro's arms in 3rd's body. According to him..

    No.

    The seal is to invoke the power of the shinigami. So far it seems to be 'wish granting at the cost of your soul' kinda with summoning the death god. The seal that is left behind by invoking of the jutsu is an aftereffect. A marking.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by yondaimeminato View Post
    not to discredit your theory or anything but the third was right there. He saw minato performing his forbidden jutsu. Don't you think the third would have picked up minato's body and naruto then make an honorable ceremony to minato's death?

    But there are still other ways, madara would have got hold of minato's body.

    If your theory is right, then I don't really see how madara/ten tail demon could be stopped from then on.
    Yes, this is true, but if you really want to get broad, there are many ways Madara would have gotten ahold of Minato's body after his death. Of course most speculations will come near the level of absurdity, but it doesn't mean they are not possible. However, if Madara did not take Minato's corpse after he died to seal the Nine-Tails in Naruto, then perhaps Madara does not need (though unlikely) the other portion of the Nine-Tailed Fox's chakra to resurrect the Jubi. Hopefully will get an explanation on how exactly how Madara intends to revive the Jubi, besides using the power of the nine tailed beasts when he is missing a significant part.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by silenceofthelambs View Post
    Maybe that's what he does. Who knows, perhaps Madara has stored Minato's body in some location, and will use it again when resurrecting the Jubi. From what I remember, Konoha never found Minato's body after he died sealing the Nine-Tailed Fox into Naruto.

    But that is an interesting thought. I have another theory as well; in order for tailed beasts to be sealed in the Demon Sealing Statue, it is best that they be extracted from their host.

    Naruto 260 page 19 | One Manga

    Yes, there is an exception with the Three-Tailed Beast, but in this statue, the Nine-Tailed Fox must be sealed last, or the statue will crumble. Having said this, did Madara purposely let himself be defeated by Minato, so he would gain the oppurtunity to seal part of the Nine-Tails' chakra within himself, and the other in Naruto? Consider this - it would take a long time for Akatsuki to capture all the other beasts before the fox, and Madara would have to keep it under control until the sealing of the Nine-Tails comes. I'm sure that would be difficult if not impossible to do, so to ease his work Madara played himself off weaker than he really is so Minato would do exactly what he wanted.

    If the Nine-Tails were not to be sealed that night (and destroyed Konoha, speaking hypothetically), then Madara would have to restrain the fox for many months, if not years, until they would finally be able to seal the Nine-Tailed Fox. Somehow that just doesn't seem likely. Minato said himself Madara would not be able to exert control of the Nine-Tailed Fox for very long, so perhaps Madara gave Minato the oppurtunity to seal the fox so he could come back for it years later. Madara himself said "someday, it will be mine again." Each time Madara discloses part of his plans, he always emerges with the intention of carrying out his words. This is a theory of mine, and it might be wrong - but if Minato did indeed defeat Madara, it would not explain why Minato had such a helpless expression in chapter 440? The word "everything" in "back then...he saw through everything I did," would not be the correct choice of words then, now would it?

    Of course, I do not doubt the fact that Minato probably defeated Madara, but I just wanted to hear everyone's opinions on my theory. Thanks.

    Give it up already. Why is this obsession with Madara? Are you saying Madara is stupid? Consider these facts, will you?
    1. Akatsuki's member were looking for all the tail beasts where abouts in about the time skip (fact)
    2. Madara waited for a long time to control the 9 tails. (fact, he said so, not me)
    3. Madara said he wanted to destroy Konoha. (fact, he said so, not me)
    4. There are quiet a lot !!!??? in Madara's portions in chapter 502 & 503. (facts) Must we explain it to you what is the meaning of !!!??? in a manga?
    5. Madara has lured Minato away from the 9 tails. (fact, he tried to finish Minato quickly)
    6. Madara said Minato can injured him and release the 9 tails in one move (fact, he said so, not me)

    I think I must explain all the points above in plain English so there won't be any misundertanding.

    Madara's intention for controlling the 9 tails and had it attacked Konoha was for complete destruction of Konoha. He has not been planning to extract the tail beasts from its host, hell no Akatsuki has not been formed, maybe Pain has not mastered the rinnegan yet so it means Madara has not met Pain yet. No Pain no extraction. If anything his failure at Minato's hand inspired him to form Akatsuki and came out with the extraction idea once he met Pain. Madara is a smart and patient man and also outstanding strategist.

    Let's pretend I were Madara, so you suggested I would do something stupid like, it's not good if Kushina was the host let's force Minato to seal the 9 tails into his son, and lost half of the 9 tails power in the process, and hopefully I could get rid of Minato. After accomplished all those and successfully alerted Konoha of my existence and purposefully injured myself then let's find the other 8 tail beasts 13-14 years later and in total I'll wait for 16 years to get my hands on the 9 tails. Brilliant!!!!

    "back then...he saw through everything I did," of course Madara did, if not he is really stupid. Before his attack he had all the infos about Minato's jutsus, he planned all the possibilities of Minato's reaction and be prepared. What Minato meant was just for the 1st of their encounters (not all the time), that's why we didn't see all those !!!??? on Madara, he had anticipated all of Minato's moves back then. That's the key to your 'back then'.

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    Alright dude I know its just your theory but just think carefully and then you will understand that this theory will never work. Why on earth Madara will attack with the intention just to change the Jinchuuriki of the Kyuubi. Madara's plan was to attack and destroy Konoha, when Minato tried to stop the Kyuubi Madara interfered and had a fight with the Fourth and Minato was not only able to defeat him but also free the Kyuubi from Madara's control. Madara knew that he lost his chance and he went back he retreated. Minato then realized that such powerful ninja will obviously come back to destroy Konoha again. So the best thing to save the village and also the entire world from Madara he chose to seal the Kyuubi inside Naruto. And there is no info that Madara had created Akatsuki before this incident. Isn't it obvious after this he wanted revenge so badly that he joined Itachi in the Uchiha massacre then he created Akatsuki to again continue his plan of world and most probably after being defeated by Minato Madara changed his plan of just using the Kyuubi. But to revive the Juubi and becoming its Jinchuuriki and thus being the most powerful ninja. Dude I have to say you just tend to give Madara too much credit I know it was just your theory but if this is the case Madara doing it on purpose doesn't really make any sense at all
    You beat me to post the answer. Great job. We have almost the same mind.
     
         
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