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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by ajpn920 View Post
    You should read the manga again. Using clones was Naruto's initiative to use his SM much longer like Jiraiya fusing Ma and Pa to use them to gather natures engergy when he's fighting. Naruto used clones instead of fusing Ma and Pa because Kurama won't allow.
    Am I seriously reading this? - I dont think there is one person who doesnt know this, but what does it have to do with my statement??

    I'm saying that 5 seconds is too short a time to gather enough Natural Energy, Naruto needed ~5 minutes at first to gather enough natural energy to be able to enter a complete sage mode, and he used the clones to prevent him from running out

    Minato on the other hand doesnt seem to be using clones which means he will run out sooner than naruto, thereby 5 seconds of gathering would have zero usefulness.
    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    So you think a genius like minato couldn't master senjutsu past Naruto who had all of 3 days to master it? Naruto entered SM in seconds within this war arc.

    I find it hard to believe someone can be a Perfect Sage and yet take more than 30 seconds to gather Senjutsu chakra unless it is their first time using it at all. The hardest part of mastering Senjutsu is balancing the chakra, not taking in in.



    Contemplating. It means thinking...

    And Fukasaku stated the eyes are what indicate mastery of SM. So no. It's perfect.
    You are speculating here buddy, and first you say 5 seconds, now 30, make up your mind lol

    like I said youre speculating because you refuse to believe minato can be inferior to naruto in anyway "despite the fact naruto surpassed minato in his own creations, namely rasengan" and he certainly surpassed his predecessors in terms of sage mode, his only downside was kuramas resistance, but after befriending him, that was no issue anymore.
     
         
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    Re: Smh Minato.

    omg this thread is so popular. Minato is damn popular
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    No scans, and no proof.

    In the end of the day even if you're right, you're speculating, and it's terrible writing for an author to force his readers to speculate just to answer a simple question. And that is the definition of Ass-pull.
    No scans? Use your eyes and you will see the scan. No proof? use your brain and you will see the proof you are looking. Again, you're neg repping me because of your stupidity..well i don't bother..good day boy
     
         
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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by ekichi onizuka View Post
    this guy is an one piece tard don't mind him

    on topic nice thread
    Given his better grammar and points, I smell irony.
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    It never said he had to recover chakra it said he had to gather
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Waitnig so long to use sm is an asspull by most definitions sir.

    It would have been very usefull in his other confilicts,the fact that kishi is just now showing it is him pulling it out of thin air or an asspull as is the common terminology to use around the base and is bad writing.

    I like your theory but even if your theory is correct kishi still dropped the ball.....point pen
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by ajpn920 View Post
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    I have explained already about Obito. About Juubito, KCM/BM was more important than SM in that situation. He was supporting Naruto with power and was sharing chakra to the alliance.
    hmm supporting Naruto instead of using his SM + FTG along side Tobirama's help ........................... you don't think that would have been better ??

    you see Minato demonstrated how fast he can transform (to SM AND KCM), yet you don't think he could have swapped between modes to be more effective ??

    the only thing that can explain Minato's inconsistent usage of SM is if he had a slow transformation process but, it only took him one page/very short time (almost instant).
     
         
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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by ekichi onizuka View Post
    this guy is an one piece tard don't mind him

    on topic nice thread
    Haha. What? One Piece sucks ****. Nice retort though. Full of facts and logic.
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Ψ Veritas Ψ View Post
    Am I seriously reading this? - I dont think there is one person who doesnt know this, but what does it have to do with my statement??

    I'm saying that 5 seconds is too short a time to gather enough Natural Energy, Naruto needed ~5 minutes at first to enter a complete sage mode, and he used the clones to prevent him from running out

    Minato on the other hand doesnt seem to be using clones which means he will run out sooner than naruto, thereby 5 seconds of gathering would have zero usefulness.
    Hashi was able to enter Sm in an instant. Minato did the same thing. It means that they can gather natures energy fast. Yeah, Naruto at first needed enough time to enter SM but as time progresses he can enter SM faster. Correct me if I'm wrong but did Naruto enter SM in an instant during his fight with the 3rd raikage?
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    Do u really think "he don't have it because he didn't use it" is a valid argument? Sasuke Uchiha didn't use PS against Obito at first despite of being one of the smartest characters in NV and knowing the fact that he is fighting against an opponent far stronger than himself,would u consider it as an asspull because he didn't pulled it when Obito nearly killed Naruto as well as Sasuke? obviously NO there are different conditions that sould be taken into consideration,Minato using SM against Kyuubi would ruin whole plot,Minato having SM makes perfect sense and Pa mentioned that Naruto surpassed those who came b4 him when Naruto trolled pain.Nither Pa nor Ma knew abot Naruto even though he has a contract with toads but they knew about Minato which suggests that Minato trained for SM.I admit the fact that it is not 100% proof to say that he learned SM but that is how foreshadowing and stuff works IMO.
    Sasuke used PS the moment he discovered that he could balance out his chakra further. Not a valid example, bhai jaan.
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by MinatoTheYellowFlash View Post
    Who said he could maintain it for that long?
    The instant minato used sage mode he was out of sage mode. Should consider that.
    What could possibily hit that he can't keep it for, Idk, more than 5 seconds? He used it against madara, but I didn't see his eyes again to tell he was no longer in SM.
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by romeboii View Post
    It never said he had to recover chakra it said he had to gather
    Where do you think he gather his chakra?
     
         
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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by ajpn920 View Post
    No scans? Use your eyes and you will see the scan. No proof? use your brain and you will the proof you are looking. Again, you're neg repping me because of your stupidy..well i don't bother..good day boy
    I negged you because you were flaming like a moron.

    All I told you was that everything you said is speculation and that forcing your fans to speculate is bad writing. You can't actually prove anything you said.
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    I negged you because you were flaming like a moron.

    All I told you was that everything you said is speculation and that forcing your fans to speculate is bad writing. You can't actually prove anything you said.
    don't usually agree with you but, i strongly agree with the BOLD.
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
    Sasuke used PS the moment he discovered that he could balance out his chakra further. Not a valid example, bhai jaan.
    Plz show me the scan in which it shows that he realized/discovered that he could balance it and what made him realized it?

    Why didn't he atleast use normal Susanoo (full form)again?
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    I negged you because you were flaming like a moron.

    All I told you was that everything you said is speculation and that forcing your fans to speculate is bad writing. You can't actually prove anything you said.
    Am I? Wow! You are retarded boy! Do you call it flaming? You can't even answer the question about where Minato gathered chakra enough to perform those feats yet you said i'm flaming. Can you at least share your idea? Now, where did Minato get his chakra to perform those feats? Can't answer? then GTFO

    I believe you have not been doing some analyzing stuff. To solve a puzzle, you must gather the pieces of the puzzle. If you can't understand what I'm saying then it's your loss, not mine.
     
         
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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Nature Energy is not a chakra source, it's an entirely different thing than chakra that just makes the user's chakra stronger. It does not increase chakra reserves or quantity. Simply put, gathering Nature Energy won't allow you to perform a technique you don't have enough chakra for.s
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    Plz show me the scan in which it shows that he realized/discovered that he could balance it and what made him realized it?

    Why didn't he atleast use normal Susanoo (full form)again?
    Considering the fact that he never used it before, not even once and it was his first time using it, he developed a legged form right before it, and then even said this 'feels just like Madara's'? Seems just about right to me.

    What normal Susano'o form, when his Legged V3 + Senjutsu was matching BSM?
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by JIRAIYA perv View Post
    he got them to safety and still didn't transform, talked to them the headed back to the Leaf (had time).
    that is if it needs time but, apparently his transformation is fast as shown in the latest chapter (almost instant), so he didn't need time.

    and what about the fight against Juubito ?? it didn't even cross his mind .......................

    i call that lousy writing if anything u_u

    This right here should end the thread. Cause this is so true

    One thing that always bothered me was.. Minato could go into KM and even make a rasengan in that mode.
    He learned that juubito was weak against senjutsu.. So you telling me he couldnt use Sage Mode + KM (LIKE NARUTO!) and FTG Himself to juubito to rasengan him with a sage mode rasengan? Lol. Yeah. Its an asspull no matter how people think of it. simple.
     
         

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    Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by ajpn920 View Post
    Am I? Wow! You are retarded boy! Do you call it flaming? You can't even answer the question about where Minato gathered chakra enough to perform those feats yet you said i'm flaming. Can you at least share your idea? Now, where did Minato get his chakra to perform those feats? Can't answer? then GTFO
    Dude... you're doing it right now...

    "Gathering Chakra" is a commonly used phrase in which characters state they need to mould their chakra (usually with seals) in order to perform a jutsu.

    Ex. Amaterasu forms a pressure in the atmosphere because the chakra is being gathered in the user's eye.

     
         
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