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    Re: last time Fukasaku said.....

    Quote Originally Posted by End of Days View Post
    you still dont get it, once jiraiya had learned sage mode he was quite capable of teaching it to whomever he wantedonly fukasaku knew sage mode when jiraiya was learning but when minato was learning there were two who knew sage mode, fukasaku and jiraiya
    Manga proof?that he could teach it?
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Quote Originally Posted by ekichi onizuka View Post
    how is that minato never masterd sage mode he didn't have enough chakra but his edo form make up for it
    He does have enough chakra. Edo Tensei doesn't increase the quanity of ones chakra, it just gets replenished faster.
     
         

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    Re: last time Fukasaku said.....

    Quote Originally Posted by bashkim View Post
    Bro Naruto is my favourite character. It true he creates variations, but all in all it is the same justsu. Naruto can not be stronger than Minato. Kish make the main character looks very poor. His father have lots more jutsu and he has a justu that we haven not see yet.
    well look at other shonen characters like goku and luffy they pretty much fight the same but with variations of moves all gokus moves come from his masters kamehameha, spirit bomb and even his instant transmission. luffy may have the most original moveset but it all resolves around stretching also haki isn't originally luffys yet these a characters who are highly praised
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Never say things are inconsistence,if you are not able to understand it and definitely not when you're not refering to official source.
     
         

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    Re: last time Fukasaku said.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurama2012 View Post
    because jman was more relevant than minato was
    LOL READ THISSSSS................s

    Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
    He was amazed that Naruto could use senjutsu and referred to it as ''the same as Jiraiya sensei''.
    Minato needed Naruto's help in infusing his Rasengan with senjutsu vs Obito.
    Yin Kurama said Minato could be backup for Naruto, due to Naruto being the one with
    senjutsu right?

    Now Minato can suddenly use senjutsu himself and a lot better than Jiraiya apparently, seeing
    he doesnt have all kinds of frog body parts transformations like Jiraiya had.

    So Minato could have infused his own rasengan with senjutsu (or he could have gone sage mode instead) and he wouldnt have needed Naruto's help in infusing his rasengan.
    He wouldnt have needed to be backup perse either.
    Yin Kurama was on good terms with Minato, so he would have let Minato combine
    sage mode and Kurama's chakra.

    He should have referred to Naruto's sage mode as ''the same as mine''
    seeing both Naruto and Minato have surpassed Jiraiya in sage mode.

    Have I missed anything?
    Is Minato using sage mode inconsistent with the rest of the story?
    Or does it make sense for him to use it in this chapter all of a sudden?

    What are your thoughts and why?

    p.s. does this confirm that Minato has huge chakra reserves?
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Yep,its a retcon.
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Are you people blind?


    I don't mean to have a go but seriously, Minato was NOT talking about himself using Sage Mode he was comparing the power of the Juubi inside Madara to when it was in Obito. Only he was calling it the "Hermits Power" Hermit meaning Sage yes but in this case, he was referring to The Sage of Six Paths being as the Hermit of Six Paths was the original Jinchuuriki to the Juubi and so Minato, like many others, are associating the power of the Juubi as the same thing as the power of the Sage, when they are two completely different things (Much like Naruto and Kurama, as it is usually Kurama's power that Naruto uses.).


    Here is the page in the case you'd like to re-read.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/665/2


    So the power Minato could feel was coming from Madara exhibiting the traits of the Sage of 6 Paths, which is basically the same thing Obito did.
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    I like how he's like:

    Obito? Lol Kyuubi is destroying the village. Better not use my Senjutsu.
    Kyuubi? Lol it's just my wife and son. No worries.
    Juubito? Lol not gonna use Senjutsu, even though it's the only thing that can harm him.
    Black Zetsu? Nah lol, let's just waste our time here Kakashi!
    Juudara? Lol, lemme just casually activate Sennin Mode out of nowhere.
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Nothing against him using Sage Mode, but come on, at least kishi should put a frog face and hands on him. (like Jiraiya)
    Would be as badass as the perfect sage mode for fans....

    The perfect sage mode wasa Naruto thing -_-
    Will just forget that panel, hopefully it will not happen again, or kishi will give a better explanation on it next chapter.
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    He did not use sm before because his bm chakra was attached to sa for their safety had he used sm he would have to undo bm and that would make his chakra attached to everyone the field get disappear.
    And his sm is weaker than naruto as he never got the chance to hone his abilities because of his death.
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Quote Originally Posted by xIGOLD FlAsHIx View Post
    Are you people blind?


    I don't mean to have a go but seriously, Minato was NOT talking about himself using Sage Mode he was comparing the power of the Juubi inside Madara to when it was in Obito. Only he was calling it the "Hermits Power" Hermit meaning Sage yes but in this case, he was referring to The Sage of Six Paths being as the Hermit of Six Paths was the original Jinchuuriki to the Juubi and so Minato, like many others, are associating the power of the Juubi as the same thing as the power of the Sage, when they are two completely different things (Much like Naruto and Kurama, as it is usually Kurama's power that Naruto uses.).


    Here is the page in the case you'd like to re-read.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/665/2


    So the power Minato could feel was coming from Madara exhibiting the traits of the Sage of 6 Paths, which is basically the same thing Obito did.
    Please ask yourself if you are blind and reread this page. Look at the frog eyes of Minato.
     
         

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    Re: last time Fukasaku said.....

    Quote Originally Posted by itachi izanami View Post
    Manga proof?that he could teach it?


    what have i been telling you these last few posts???????
     
         

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    Minato fanboys are annoying as hell today.

    Of course it is not an as$ pull if Minato instantly used SM [Minato Fanboy Logic]

    but did you guys forgot about facts like:

    1.You need time to enter SM?
    2.Why Minato never used it while fighting the Kyuubi?

    3.Why not using it against Vote and Juubi Obtio?

    And it's totally annoying that you MinaTards are overhyping him right now while he got 1 paneled by Madara.
    There is nothing to be proud of.
    This is your excuse:

    1.It needs some one Rikdudo's lvl to defeat Minato
    Kyuubi says hi.

    And it seems like Minato hasn't mastered SM:

    1.) He could have sense Madara's attack and dodge as one of the fastest Ninjas ever.
    2.) Also SM gives you faster speed and reaction time.

    You can cry all you want but even Minato vs Itachi will not change a bit.
    They are still equal.

    Kishi destroyed Minato at this point and screwed all over his reputation. Deal with it.
    Yes I am that butt hurt.
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Quote Originally Posted by ekichi onizuka View Post
    how is that minato never masterd sage mode he didn't have enough chakra but his edo form make up for it
    Minato did have enough chakra when he was alive. First, it was strongly implied Minato could use SM when Naruto fought Pain. Secondly, what Mattek said. Third, it was never said Minato didn't have high chakra reserves anywhere. I still wonder where people get the idea Minato had no stamina.

    And obviously, if his chakra was low when he was alive, how would he have learned to draw on natural chakra? The toads never would've taught it to him if he didn't have a large chakra pool in the first place.
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Quote Originally Posted by SanjiNL View Post
    I like how he's like:

    Obito? Kyuubi is destroying the village. Better not use my Senjutsu.
    Kyuubi? it's just my wife and son. No worries.
    Juubito? not gonna use Senjutsu, even though it's the only thing that can harm him.
    Black Zetsu? Nah lol, let's just waste our time here Kakashi!
    Juudara? , lemme just casually activate Sennin Mode out of nowhere.
    This. Definitely this.

    Minato has been one of my favorites even as he's been bashed relentlessly but this chapter makes me question the logic behind his character altogether.
     
         

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    Re: last time Fukasaku said.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaScythian View Post
    While that's plausible speculation it's still NO.

    Regardless fukasaku still knew minato and according to him he had not enough chakra, only nardo and j-man ware eligible to posses SM
    Since when did fukasaku said that minato does not have enough chakra? edo is not unlimited it just replenish chakra and recovers wound. I know your a minato hater but jeez don't go to retarded. I'm not even a minato fAn
     
         

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    Re: Minato fanboys are annoying as hell today.

    somebody call 911
     
         

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    Re: Minato fanboys are annoying as hell today.

    Eh I don't really care, anyone that was surprised about him having sm is retarded cause it was foreshadowed hella

    Teacher had sm, son had sm, he had toad summons

    Not an ass pull IMO
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    its quite possible minatos sage mode can't last a long time so using it in one full burst is all he can handle
     
         

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    Re: Minato fanboys are annoying as hell today.

    You yourself said he hasn't mastered SM and you are again telling that he could not sense madara's attack.
    You are contradicting yourself.
    Its as you said he never got the chance to master SM because of his death.
    So he has the disability of not sensing attack that jiraya had in his SM.
    SM naruto>>>SM minato>SM jiraya
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    I think this pretty much shows how Kishi is really just making this all up as he goes.

    Shame.....
     
         

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    Re: Minato fanboys are annoying as hell today.

    I really don't see why Minato needs SM. He has enough speed, strength won't help him much. He never lacked chakra from what we've seen. The only reason why he used it it so it would affect Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Well if you think about it Minato's summoning contract is with toads and it wouldn't make sense for him not to have sage mode...
     
         

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    Re: Minato fanboys are annoying as hell today.

    Didnt lord fukasaku(the small old frog) say naruto surpassed the previous ones(=jiraya and minato) for me it was also clear he had sm. Only thing i think is stupid is the fact that its a perfect sm(=better then jirayas sm..) other then that im fine with it as i does kinda make sense
     
         

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    Re: Minato lastest chapter inconsistent with story

    Quote Originally Posted by chintu234 View Post
    He did not use sm before because his bm chakra was attached to sa for their safety had he used sm he would have to undo bm and that would make his chakra attached to everyone the field get disappear.
    And his sm is weaker than naruto as he never got the chance to hone his abilities because of his death.
    Him attaching his chakra to the SA for their safety was after the combined attack of Naruto and Minato vs Obito, not before. Check chapter 643.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurama2012 View Post
    its quite possible minatos sage mode can't last a long time so using it in one full burst is all he can handle
    This could be possible.
     
         

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