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    Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Hopefully.

    Madara has seen the eighth gate, meaning it predates Minato.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/667/12

    So too has Minato.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/667/13

    We know it's a forbidden technique (no, not the fodder that listens to drake.) and Minato probably put it in the seal of scrolls just like he did the Kage Bushin.

    Several of the techniques we've seen from it to date are associated with Konoha (Primary lotus.) as well as phrases ("the lotus of the leaf blooms twice") along with Konoha Shinobi being the only people that have shown it off.

    I'm gonna throw a curve ball here; look at who rivals Gai and Lee:



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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    It might be an Uzumaki too. They have good chakra control and a good amount of it too. Maybe one of them discovered how to unseal the gates? either that or Tobirama learned after training with them. His ftg is in theory based off of seals that could be from the uzumaki clans.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    All fan fiction. Go away.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    I thought the raikage was the tallest? I mean his height is never given, but the dude is massive and he made jugo look small when they fought in the kage summit arc...
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Highly possible
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Lee & Gai use leaf taijutsu that's obvious but i think t-rama would use against Madz if he could have gates.

    Legnendary powers are videly known, Sakura knew Yamato use mokuton too Mianto and Tobirama probably knew it that way.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    If Tobirama had gates why didn't he use it.....
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ Vegito View Post
    All fan fiction. Go away.
    You doubt that the kages didn't learn from the Uzumakis? 2 of them had Uzumaki wives, i wouldnt doubt that they learned the jinchurikki seals from them. Soul reaper seal originated with the Uzumaki. It is shown by Orochimaru that anything that is sealed can potentially be unsealed. Opening the gates could be the process of unsealing our inner strength.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Hm, no.

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    Clearly there will be a large amount of a Jutsu all the Kage have that they aren't using :l
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by ' ~ Dantee ~ ' View Post
    If Tobirama had gates why didn't he use it.....
    I would say it is the same reason he doesnt use edo tensei. The risk is high.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by CDT23 View Post
    I would say it is the same reason he doesnt use edo tensei. The risk is high.
    Dat Edo Tensei risk.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    If Orochimaru has Mokuton why didn't he use it?

    If Hiruzen knows every Jutsu in Konoha why doesn't he use them?

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    Stupid questions, it's the writer's choice ultimately.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ Vegito View Post
    Hopefully.

    Madara has seen the eighth gate, meaning it predates Minato.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/667/12

    So too has Minato.

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/667/13

    We know it's a forbidden technique (no, not the fodder that listens to drake.) and Minato probably put it in the seal of scrolls just like he did the Kage Bushin.

    Several of the techniques we've seen from it to date are associated with Konoha (Primary lotus.) as well as phrases ("the lotus of the leaf blooms twice") along with Konoha Shinobi being the only people that have shown it off.

    I'm gonna throw a curve ball here; look at who rivals Gai and Lee:



    :3
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kitsuchi kitsuchi is 212cm
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodSeed View Post
    Who cares? That's not the point.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ Vegito View Post
    Hm, no.

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    Clearly there will be a large amount of a Jutsu all the Kage have that they aren't using :l
    Almost all of Tobiramas two deadly jutsu uses seals, FTG and Edo tensei. The fourth uses FTG and Reaper seal. All of the kage probably has knowledge of sealing tailed beasts, Five element seal. Even Jiraya and Oro knew this. You dont think they learned them out of thin air, do you? They are either straight from the uzumaki clan or developed based on their seals.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by ' ~ Dantee ~ ' View Post
    Dat Edo Tensei risk.
    well it is unlikely but still deadly. Look at what happened to Kabuto :] his strongest edos escaped his control. The Shodai flexed his muscles and broke Orochimarus.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by CDT23 View Post
    well it is unlikely but still deadly. Look at what happened to Kabuto :] his strongest edos escaped his control. The Shodai flexed his muscles and broke Orochimarus.
    Tobirama was known for using it in battle. If Tobirama had the 8 gates, using it earlier would have been very helpful. He can't die being Edo Tensei. Maybe he has it, I just don't think he does.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Tobirama is not just inventor he is THE inventor. And a badass at that.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Its obvious Tobirama discovered it...like every jutsu ever...

    The only two we have seen use gates are 99% tiajutsu. We have no idea what it would do to someone who uses a variety of jutsu. It could explain why others have seen it or know it but not utilize it.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Quote Originally Posted by ' ~ Dantee ~ ' View Post
    Tobirama was known for using it in battle. If Tobirama had the 8 gates, using it earlier would have been very helpful. He can't die being Edo Tensei. Maybe he has it, I just don't think he does.
    He could have developed it. Minato developed Rasengan but Naruto perfected it.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    'The' Inventor knows all of the jutsu's, Wouldn't be surprised.

     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    He too strong
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Probably man probably .
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    The gates itself were likely discovered by Hyuugas who can see the chakra network, but first person to actually utilize the gates is a mystery. Tobirama seems like a likely candidate since he is a perfectionist, but it requires a person to actually focus on hard work and great amounts of body conditioning and taijutsu training to bring it out and tobirama is actually a bit of an all rounder in that respect with great skill in all areas, but not specializing specifically in taijutsu. I would say that it was very likely a senju who first used it as they are focused on the body and training, but tonbirama just doesn't sit right with me as the person who first used it.

    For all we know the first people to use it could have only used it unintentionally as a natural defensive reflex against danger like kakashi did when scaling the cliff one handed and realized that they could try training to use that power for themselves as a tool to aid them in combat against particularly powerful foes.
     
         

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    Re: Tobirama discovered the eight inner gates.

    Would not be surprised.
     
         

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