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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by danivass View Post
    The 3 tailed beast was captured by Tobi and Deidara in the manga, too, so at least the fact that it was without a host is not only from a filler.
    It contradict the story because the 4th mizukage is the 3 tails beast host that Madara controlled him through his sharingan. So it contradict the previous episode that says "The only beast that dont have a host" (3 tails). Anyone knows what the hell happening here?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by incme2002 View Post
    It contradict the story because the 4th mizukage is the 3 tails beast host that Madara controlled him through his sharingan. So it contradict the previous episode that says "The only beast that dont have a host" (3 tails). Anyone knows what the hell happening here?
    Madara was controlling the Fourth Mizukage before he and Deidara captured it. Kisame was recalling events from his past, so at some point, the Three-Tailed Beast was extracted from Yagura's body for reasons that are as of yet unknown, and then Deidara and Madara (posing as Tobi at the time) captured it, and it was sealed by Akatsuki into Gedo Mazo, the Demon Sealing Statue.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by incme2002 View Post
    Did anyone noticed that the mizukage is the 3 tails host? how can it be that during the naruto anime tobi and deidara captured the 3 tails w/o the host? how come mizukage is the 3 tailed beast host?
    At some point in the past, the Three-Tails fell into the possession of Kirigakure and was sealed within Yagura, the Fourth Mizukage. It was later extracted from its host for some reason, and escaped into the wild. (naruto pedia) Three-Tailed Giant Turtle - Narutopedia, the Naruto Wiki
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by silenceofthelambs View Post
    Madara was controlling the Fourth Mizukage before he and Deidara captured it. Kisame was recalling events from his past, so at some point, the Three-Tailed Beast was extracted from Yagura's body for reasons that are as of yet unknown, and then Deidara and Madara (posing as Tobi at the time) captured it, and it was sealed by Akatsuki into Gedo Mazo, the Demon Sealing Statue.
    So it contradict the whole story. How come the 3 tailed beast dont have a host while the 4th Mizukage claim that he's the 3 tailed jinchuriki during the conversation between Kisame, Madara and the 4th Mizukage. If I remember the 3 tailed beast captured not long before naruto learns the Sage Mode Technique.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by incme2002 View Post
    So it contradict the whole story. How come the 3 tailed beast dont have a host while the 4th Mizukage claim that he's the 3 tailed jinchuriki during the conversation between Kisame, Madara and the 4th Mizukage. If I remember the 3 tailed beast captured not long before naruto learns the Sage Mode Technique.
    dude wtf? the convo between them was LONG time ago....Yagura was a jinchuriki but for unknown reasons, like silenceofthelambs said, he lost the 3 tailed beast....so according to narutowiki:

    At some point in the past, the Three-Tails fell into the possession of Kirigakure and was sealed within Yagura, the Fourth Mizukage. It was later extracted from its host for some reason, and escaped into the wild. Because it did not have a jinchūriki, it was not intelligent enough to effectively utilize its great strength, instead being reduced to animal instincts.
    According to Tsunade, the Three-Tails disappeared after a great war.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by abejoker View Post
    dude wtf? the convo between them was LONG time ago....Yagura was a jinchuriki but for unknown reasons, like silenceofthelambs said, he lost the 3 tailed beast....so according to narutowiki:

    Thanks dude..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by incme2002 View Post
    So it contradict the whole story. How come the 3 tailed beast dont have a host while the 4th Mizukage claim that he's the 3 tailed jinchuriki during the conversation between Kisame, Madara and the 4th Mizukage. If I remember the 3 tailed beast captured not long before naruto learns the Sage Mode Technique.
    Yagura was the host of the Three-Tails when Madara was controlling him. At some point after these events, the beast was removed from Yagura's body, and his life came to an end as a result.

    Also, the Three-Tails was captured much before Naruto began learning Sage Techniques. Below is the chapter where Deidara and Madara (using the persona of Tobi) subdued the Three-Tailed Beast and brought it back to be sealed.

    NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 318 - Page 12

    And here is where Fukasaku proposes to teach Sage Arts to Naruto, which is still several chapters before he actually physically begins learning them.

    NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 408 - Page 13

    Quite a large difference, don't you think?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by incme2002 View Post
    It contradict the story because the 4th mizukage is the 3 tails beast host that Madara controlled him through his sharingan. So it contradict the previous episode that says "The only beast that dont have a host" (3 tails). Anyone knows what the hell happening here?
    Dude Madara was controlling the 4th Mizukage the 3 tails Jinchuuriki true but that was a LONG time ago most probably the Mist top ninjas found out that someone was controlling Yagura. In any case remember hosts of Bijuus can be changed. Hashirama's wife was the first Jinchuuriki of the Kyuubi but then Konoha changed the host because they knew that Hashirama's wife was too old. For any reason hosts can be changed so when the Mist thought that they had to keep the 3 tails in their possession they changed their hosts and then after long time Deidara and Kakuzu captured the 3 tails simple is doesn't contradict with the story.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by silenceofthelambs View Post
    Yagura was the host of the Three-Tails when Madara was controlling him. At some point after these events, the beast was removed from Yagura's body, and his life came to an end as a result.

    Also, the Three-Tails was captured much before Naruto began learning Sage Techniques. Below is the chapter where Deidara and Madara (using the persona of Tobi) subdued the Three-Tailed Beast and brought it back to be sealed.

    NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 318 - Page 12

    And here is where Fukasaku proposes to teach Sage Arts to Naruto, which is still several chapters before he actually physically begins learning them.

    NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 408 - Page 13

    Quite a large difference, don't you think?

    Thank You dude for an effort to enlighten me..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    Dude Madara was controlling the 4th Mizukage the 3 tails Jinchuuriki true but that was a LONG time ago most probably the Mist top ninjas found out that someone was controlling Yagura. In any case remember hosts of Bijuus can be changed. Hashirama's wife was the first Jinchuuriki of the Kyuubi but then Konoha changed the host because they knew that Hashirama's wife was too old. For any reason hosts can be changed so when the Mist thought that they had to keep the 3 tails in their possession they changed their hosts and then after long time Deidara and Kakuzu captured the 3 tails simple is doesn't contradict with the story.
    You mean Deidara and Tobi.. Anyway thanks for the explanation now I know its not contradicting.. My mistake..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Why isn't it out already
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sennin Jinchuuriki View Post
    Why isn't it out already
    Well if you want to read it, it is out on mangastream.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

    Finally it's all ready out!!! Mangastream.om
     
         

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