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    Madara and shisui

    Why was madara so inclined on taking the eye of shisui from danzo when in fact madara already possessed the ability to take control of someones mind via sharingan?
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Shisui's was a powerful sharingan, why not add another to the collection, plus I feel Shisui's is a more powerful mind control, it was able to trick 4 Kage level shinobi
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Remember Madara saying that he's gonna take out Rinnegan?(don't know how since Konan took Nagato and Yahiko's body).

    Anyways, he's preparing for war and collecting strong doujutsu for some mysterious reasons.
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    just something to think about, not saying its right.

    Madara is deff using shushi body, it makes total sense.

    1. He only has 1 sharigan. He most likely lost his sight again even after having eternal mangekyou sharigan..he prob used izangi when fighting the first hokage and lost that eye..as for his other eye, its most likely still in his original body. He didn't transfer the eye from his original body because it wouldn't work in shisui's body correctly. (hes waiting for sasuke to develope his eyes then hes probably going to take over his body. Y did u think he saved itachi's eyes for?)

    2. Itachi said "madara is just a shell of his original self"

    3. If danzo took one of shisui eye's why didn't he take both of them to begin with? How did danzo even knew madara was still alive? dont forget all danzo want is power so he prob had made a deal with madara in the past.

    3. when kabuto opened the coffin, madara said " how did u know? you bastard" going by what he said, the person in the coffin was most likely madara in his original form.
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimaru Yoshi View Post
    just something to think about, not saying its right.

    Madara is deff using shushi body, it makes total sense.

    1. He only has 1 sharigan. He most likely lost his sight again even after having eternal mangekyou sharigan..he prob used izangi when fighting the first hokage and lost that eye..as for his other eye, its most likely still in his original body. He didn't transfer the eye from his original body because it wouldn't work in shisui's body correctly. (hes waiting for sasuke to develope his eyes then hes probably going to take over his body. Y did u think he saved itachi's eyes for?)

    2. Itachi said "madara is just a shell of his original self"

    3. If danzo took one of shisui eye's why didn't he take both of them to begin with? How did danzo even knew madara was still alive? dont forget all danzo want is power so he prob had made a deal with madara in the past.

    3. when kabuto opened the coffin, madara said " how did u know? you bastard" going by what he said, the person in the coffin was most likely madara in his original form.
    It being Shisui is wrong, Danzo had Shisui's eye implanted into him, yet Madara shows the same eye
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    I guess you can't have to many powerful Sharingan's around just in case he needs it for whatever reason
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by TimUsher View Post
    It being Shisui is wrong, Danzo had Shisui's eye implanted into him, yet Madara shows the same eye
    not that i think its shisui, but why does it matter if danzou and tobi show the same eye? An eyeball is an eyeball, what makes you think a eye can only be transplated to the same side of the head?
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    gosh shows wat u kno
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    what we know, is that Danzo had shusui's right eye, and Tobi only shows his right sharingan.

    Shusui is supposedly dead, yet this too we can not be sure of. Perhaps shusui's using a sharingan from one of the slain uchihas??

    Danzo said he saw tobi(madara) at the uchiha massacre.

    Itachi said "Madara" helped him massacre the Uchiha clan, but can we be sure that itachi actually killed the uchiha's?

    I suggest forgetting what tobi has said. He said the 9-tails attack was a natural disaster and had nothing to do with the uchiha's, yet he is the one who instigated it. IF tobi is Madara Uchiha then the Uchiha clan was involved. it isn't THAT large of a leap to assume somebody was able to at least leave a message that the one who attacked had a sharingan. Or somebody else see the sharingan, like a hyuga maybe?

    He also said Itachi slaughtered the Uchiha because they were planning to overthrow the hokage. IF that were true, why would Madara Uchiha help him and not his clan? IF the Uchiha planned to become what Madara had wanted them to be all along, why would he stop them, or help stop them?

    Somehow, tobi has access to a rinnengan, and he did say that the tome in the uchiha shrine required a sharingan to read the 1st third, a MS to read the 2nd third, and a Rinnenegan to read the last third. So perhaps a sharingan can evolve past MS into a rinnenegan?

    If that is the case, and rinnenegan users are truely outside the realm of life and death, that would explain how he survived so long.


    I still don't think tobi is madara uchiha however. Shusui maybe, but even that seems a bit weak.
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    ffs danzou had eyes in his arms...why would a person not be able to put a left eye in their right eye socket?
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by BarBoBot View Post
    ffs danzou had eyes in his arms...why would a person not be able to put a left eye in their right eye socket?
    If Naruto can heal a hole in his chest, resist the sword of kusanagi why can't he heal a sprained ankle? What Kishi says is law thats why.
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by TimUsher View Post
    It being Shisui is wrong, Danzo had Shisui's eye implanted into him, yet Madara shows the same eye
    danzo has one of shisui's eye..he could have tooken his left eye and implanted it into his right eye socket..
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimaru Yoshi View Post
    danzo has one of shisui's eye..he could have tooken his left eye and implanted it into his right eye socket..
    Thank you! I have been trying to say that but some people are so dense...

    seriously usher...are you even reading any posts besides your own? I explained what I was talking about very clearly and you respond with kishi makes the rules?

    WTF does that have to do with putting someones left eye into a right eye socket?
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by BarBoBot View Post
    Thank you! I have been trying to say that but some people are so dense...

    seriously usher...are you even reading any posts besides your own? I explained what I was talking about very clearly and you respond with kishi makes the rules?

    WTF does that have to do with putting someones left eye into a right eye socket?
    i dont think ppl are reading what were talking about...also lately ive been re reading the manga and came across something that most ppl overlooked...

    1. when madara fought against aburame torune his left arm was injured due to him touching torune body when he warped him into another demension.



    2. when zetsu reappears to tell him sasuke needs help we noticed that same arm has grown back..i dont kno how ppl are over seeing this important fact.



    3. judging from this we know he can either A) switch bodys or B regrow body parts. Im going to say its B. I highly believe madara has modified his body in major ways...even orochimaru had amazing regenerating abilities..its a strong possibility madara posses this abilities also.. what do u guys think?
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimaru Yoshi View Post
    i dont think ppl are reading what were talking about...also lately ive been re reading the manga and came across something that most ppl overlooked...

    1. when madara fought against aburame torune his left arm was injured due to him touching torune body when he warped him into another demension.



    2. when zetsu reappears to tell him sasuke needs help we noticed that same arm has grown back..i dont kno how ppl are over seeing this important fact.



    3. judging from this we know he can either A) switch bodys or B regrow body parts. Im going to say its B. I highly believe madara has modified his body in major ways...even orochimaru had amazing regenerating abilities..its a strong possibility madara posses this abilities also.. what do u guys think?
    you have a very good point there. Let us suppose Tobi can regenerate entire limbs. This would also explain how if tobi really is madara, he survived his fight with the 1st. He was slain, but healed himself just enough to survive, once it was safe he finished regenerating.

    What bugs me, is that if tobi is madara, why does he maintain the mask?

    Going off what Kabuto said, I'm thinking that tobi isn't madara after all. I'm just not sure who he is. He would have to be somebody we've seen in the manga before, otherwise there would be no need to hide his face from the viewers, unless it's just kishi's twisted sense of humor.
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock Tigerwolf View Post
    you have a very good point there. Let us suppose Tobi can regenerate entire limbs. This would also explain how if tobi really is madara, he survived his fight with the 1st. He was slain, but healed himself just enough to survive, once it was safe he finished regenerating.

    What bugs me, is that if tobi is madara, why does he maintain the mask?

    Going off what Kabuto said, I'm thinking that tobi isn't madara after all. I'm just not sure who he is. He would have to be somebody we've seen in the manga before, otherwise there would be no need to hide his face from the viewers, unless it's just kishi's twisted sense of humor.
    yes hiding his face is a big part in this..which makes me believe he has the rinnegan implanted in his other eye socket..n needs to where the mask to prevent it from draining his chakara kinda like kakashi. Madara has numerous sharigan in his possession, it would be easy for him just to slap one in..but he doesn't do so which makes me believe hes hiding a rinnegan.

    just a thought lol
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimaru Yoshi View Post
    i dont think ppl are reading what were talking about...also lately ive been re reading the manga and came across something that most ppl overlooked...

    1. when madara fought against aburame torune his left arm was injured due to him touching torune body when he warped him into another demension.



    2. when zetsu reappears to tell him sasuke needs help we noticed that same arm has grown back..i dont kno how ppl are over seeing this important fact.



    3. judging from this we know he can either A) switch bodys or B regrow body parts. Im going to say its B. I highly believe madara has modified his body in major ways...even orochimaru had amazing regenerating abilities..its a strong possibility madara posses this abilities also.. what do u guys think?
    You should re read that chapter, it shows Tobi regenerating his right arm, not his left arm. It showns him next to a bunch of spikes that look just like zetsus, and his arm is still wet from the regeneration, and he is holding his shoulder. chapter 486 page 5
     
         

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    Re: Madara and shisui

    Quote Originally Posted by BarBoBot View Post
    You should re read that chapter, it shows Tobi regenerating his right arm, not his left arm. It showns him next to a bunch of spikes that look just like zetsus, and his arm is still wet from the regeneration, and he is holding his shoulder. chapter 486 page 5
    i ment right, but either way we now know he can regenerate meaning his body is modified in sum ways.
     
         

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