[Discussion] Hyuga &Uchiha related

[Dean-Winchester]

Just like senju and uzumaki are related



He appears to be wearing a type of robe and his eyebrows seemed to be clipped short, a sign of nobility in ancient Japan. He had long black hair and his eyes were turned up at the corners, with what seems to be marking under the edges. While similar to the Rinnegan, the ancestor's eyes did not have the same ripple-like pattern of multiple ascending circles. Instead, his dōjutsu had a more spiral-like pattern.

The Hyūga clan (日向一族, Hyūga Ichizoku) is one of the oldest and most powerful clans in Konohagakure. All members born into the family possess the Byakugan, a kekkei genkai that gives them extended fields of vision and the ability to see the chakra circulatory system.


The clan is separated into two parts, the main house (宗家, Sōke) and the branch house (分家, Bunke), a system that protects the secrets of the Byakugan from outsiders. The main house runs the family while the branch house protects it. The members of the branch house are branded with a cursed seal upon the next heir/heiress of the main house's third birthday. This seal gives the main house members absolute control over the branch members, because they can destroy the branch members' minds with a simple hand gesture, or cause them great pain to punish them. This seal also makes sure the secret of the Hyūga's Byakugan is safe, because it seals the Byakugan after the wearer of the seal dies. Because they are essentially servants, simply because of their birth order or heritage, some branch house members are hostile to those of the main house.
Members of the clan are instructed in the use of the Gentle Fist style, which uses the Byakugan to view the opponent's Chakra Pathway System and deal precise blows to disable and impede the flow of chakra. Due to training in this style, Hyūga clan members tend to have excellent chakra control. This is emphasized in jutsu that utilize this chakra control, as well as the nuances of the Gentle Fist style. The clan's strongest techniques, like the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms, are only allowed to be taught to members of the main house. Neji Hyūga, however, has bypassed this restriction by learning them on his own, earning a reputation as a "genius" in the clan.

[Felixman]

yes they are related it was mentioned that the sharingan descended from the byakugan or vice versa somewhere in the manga

[psukkar]

Yea I definitely see the sharingan,byukagan and rinnegan all related some how.

But I suspect the byukgan is was actually the first eye out the lot to be honest.

[Nagato..]

Yea I definitely see the sharingan,byukagan and rinnegan all related some how.

But I suspect the byukgan is was actually the first eye out the lot to be honest.

Ima have to say it came second.. Without the Rinnegan all the other KG (Sharingan, Byukagan) would not have existed.. Alot of people as myself believe the Sharingan came after the Byukagan that i believe :P

[Akisha]

well they are both doujutsus, they must be releted somehow.

[oneeyeddemon]

The Uchiha Clan is a descendant of the Hyuga Clan.

Kakashi said so here: NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 078 - Page 13



This also might imply that the Sage of the Six Paths was a member of the Hyuga family since the Uchiha and the Senju are descended from the two sons of Sage:

NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 462 - Page 12
NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 462 - Page 13



The Sharingan and the Rinnegan could be an evolution of the Byakugan.

My theory is that the Rinnegan was passed down through the Senju family but would rarely manifest. The Sharingan was passed down through the Uchiha family which every member possessed.

[Uchiha Riyo]

huh

[Dean-Winchester]

what if the sage of six paths mom had like a peferct byakugan or something
and he was born

i dont know:confused: just saying

[Yūsuke]

dude sharingan does originate from the byakugan

[Honord Sage]

Blood thinned, Senju, Uchiha, Hyuga, levying one blood line at full strength, Uzumaki, and that explains Naruto reaction to the new seal, the new look.

[apple pie of doom]

I have a feeling that Hyuuga might be the next after So6p ( and thats only because he created ninja techs. ).

[psukkar]

The byukagan being the first eye is far from out of the question.

This from one of my threads(http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...reat-eyes.html)


looks that this.



This is the So6P's mastery of Yin-Yang(light/dark) manipulation with the Rinnegan.


This is Neji before he executes gentile fist which only can be done with a Byakugan.

[apple pie of doom]

You have a point there, it might refer to the byakugan, although it has no real traits from the eyes itself.
Perhaps the gentle fist users are proficient at using yin/yang chakra's or something...

[BigTDogg220]

The thought is that they all originate together.

[uhIpooped]

Well, my question is..
If the sharingan came from the byukagan, then why is the sharingan the only eye that can upgrade itself.. ie: MS, EMS.. ???

Shouldnt the byukagan be able to do so also? and also be able to read the tablet left under the Uchiha house??

[oneeyeddemon]

Well, my question is..
If the sharingan came from the byukagan, then why is the sharingan the only eye that can upgrade itself.. ie: MS, EMS.. ???

Shouldnt the byukagan be able to do so also? and also be able to read the tablet left under the Uchiha house??

Who knows, but the way that Byakugan is used and how the Hyuga are, it seems the Hyuga would never condone any change in the shape or form of the Byakugan. They are very conservative and strict. If there was a mutation in the Byakugan, which is their symbol, they would probably reject it.

The Tablet was left by the Sage of the Six Paths who had the Rinnegan/Sharingan, and he only wanted his descendants to read it. He wouldn't code the Tablet so a Hyuga would be able to read it.

[uhIpooped]

Who knows, but the way that Byakugan is used and how the Hyuga are, it seems the Hyuga would never condone any change in the shape or form of the Byakugan. They are very conservative and strict. If there was a mutation in the Byakugan, which is their symbol, they would probably reject it.

The Tablet was left by the Sage of the Six Paths who had the Rinnegan/Sharingan, and he only wanted his descendants to read it. He wouldn't code the Tablet so a Hyuga would be able to read it.

to the last part you wrote...
the sharingan came FROM the byakugan... so if the byakugan is also from the sage, then they should also be able to decifer the tablet...
imo the 2 dojutsu's are like a yin/yang and the rinnegan is the culmination of both..
sharingan can see chakara and movement, and has offensive attacks (MS, EMS)
byakugan can see chakara and seems to be more a defensive dojutsu with only the smallest of blind spots..
the rinnegan can use all the techs from both and more..

[JMAN]

Byakugan has been neglected in the latest chapters for a while now ...
I would like to know a little bit more about it personally ...

[oneeyeddemon]

to the last part you wrote...
the sharingan came FROM the byakugan... so if the byakugan is also from the sage, then they should also be able to decifer the tablet...
imo the 2 dojutsu's are like a yin/yang and the rinnegan is the culmination of both..
sharingan can see chakara and movement, and has offensive attacks (MS, EMS)
byakugan can see chakara and seems to be more a defensive dojutsu with only the smallest of blind spots..
the rinnegan can use all the techs from both and more..

There is a fallacy in your argument that the Byakugan could decipher the tablet.

Think of it like this: the Sage created a lock that only a certain key can fit in.

The Sharingan/Rinnegan are keys that were derived from another key, the Baykugan. This does not mean that the Byakugan can fit in the lock. It only means that they are related.

[JR4040]

i understand now, the sharingan can see attacks before it happens, but the byakugan can see in the future

[Nagato..]

i understand now, the sharingan can see attacks before it happens, but the byakugan can see in the future

Dude im not even gonna ask why u stole my Sig but i will greatly appreciate it if you changed it. :confused:

I think as far as risks are concerned, the sharingan has the most known risks to it like going blind, "Eye Thieves" lol I dont know abt the byakugan tho