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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    just wondering is tobi tryna make more senju Hashiramas too???
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    Black Zetsu is defiantly Tobi's DNA if white Zetsu is created from Hashirama. That's how Tobi is able to regenerate missing limbs and recover from injuries. He claimed that injuries sustained from his battle with Hashirama left him weaken, so he created a back up plain so he wont sustain even more injuries in the future.

    Also Proves my theory as Tobi isn't the real Madara if Zetsu, what seems to be his creation still calls him Tobi. I'm starting to think Tobi is a clone Madara so hints he is a shell of his former self. Tobi seems to be a great scientist to create something as great as Zetsu so creating a clone of his self seems plausible, he's a great biologist.

    Lastly Kabuto brought something to my attention, he wants some of the Senju powers too. Looking at Naruto and tsunade the I can see why only the Senju were a match for Uchiha.

    What I seriously don't get is Hashirama was the purest Senju and Mito was the purest Uzumaki their child or children would have the purest Senju blood since the younger Rikudou son. They would have both the body and life energy of the Rikudou. Hashirama only has the body. Why wouldn't Tobi want their cells, hell Tsunade would have more Senju purity in her than her father. The Uzumaki has the Rikudou's life energy (hints their longevity) so the regular Senju would have the body or physical strength.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    It's over nine thousaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand!!! O.O

    I was freaking out when i say the 100000 Zetsus..that's just amazing but also ridiculous! And that Kabuto would use Edo Tensei to use the poor Deidara is a little bit tricky - so now we are sure that Kabuto will face the others because he has the ability to find the Island (he can fly and you can only find the island by flying). I guess that Tsuchikage and Gaara will heading together to the Island and we'll se a nice and badass fight.

    I'm pleased to see Kabuto raped, and also the one thing that he revived with Edo Tensei which was the cause of madara freaking out.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Floydical View Post
    Hmmm, I'm not sure about this exactly but clearly there is something different about Madara this chapter. If we look at the last panel of 511 and a 512 panel:

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/511/17

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/512/6

    we see that Madara's voice changes when he gets serious, like you mentioned. However, we clearly see that that much is not true in this panel of his conversation with Kisame:

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/404

    Here he is seems he becomes serious after Kisame expresses disgust at seeing Tobi, but his voice (i.e. the text used) does not change. In the anime, his voice clearly changes in this transition but again, no change in the manga text.

    I do believe, however, that there is definitely something more to Madara. I really don't think he's a full on half black half white version of zetsu, but maybe half his head is one of the zetsu halves, or his body has become melded with zetsu kind of like how Kabuto basically is melded with oro at this point. The voice is still a bit troubling though, but maybe he has so much control that he can turn off/on his Zetsu 'side' if you will.
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    The tsuchikage will get there but he'll prolly die while trying to defend the jinchuuriki's and then we'll learn bout he's past and so on.......
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinchuuriki of Juubi View Post
    You my friend have helped me solve the mystery.I will make a thread of my findings now.and I thank you for helping my make the connection
    Cool, I'm glad I could help you out.

    Please post the link when you have it ready, I'd like to read it.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    What a great manga! They have given us a surplus of ammo for future speculation and discussion! Can't wait for the next one. Craps about to hit the fan again!

    Kabuto and Deidara vs. Gaara
    Kabuto and Deidara vs. Killer Bee + Naruto + The other dudes on the island

    Oh and most likely Killer Bee will die. But I don't think Naruto will get the nine tails taken from him. He'll most definitely survive and fight Sasuke. He wouldn't stand a chance against Sasuke without the Nine tails chakra.

    Oh and if the nine tails was taken from Naruto than the whole "body of the 6 paths" and "eyes of the six paths" symbology theory thingy would be thrown all outta whack!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/512/7

    Tobi is Tobi. Kabuto showed Madara's body to Tobi with Edo Tensei.

    Quote Originally Posted by CasualMisfit View Post
    I think the turtle island is actually a Japanese legend.. * researches*
    It's actually based off the Native American's Creation Legend; before the world existed, there was only sea. A woman fell from the sky and a swan caught her. The swan had no place to put the woman down so couple of animals came to a conclusion that they needed land. A turtle told the animals to bring mud from the ocean and put it on his back. The mud or Earth as we call it, only existed deep beneath the sea. Several animals attempted to bring this land and only the muskrat was successful. Once the mud was placed on the back of the turtle, it expanded until it became an island, a continent and soon the whole word. Yay for Gr. 12 Canadian History.

    I really hope Zetsu isn't some lab rat of Tobi that he created. That would just destroy his character in my opinion.

    Kabuto seems confident but is he really on Tobi's side? And what of him wanting to experiment on Yamato? Does he want Izanagi?

    Killerbee is probably going to die in the coming chapters. His role is over and has accomplished what his character was made to do. I don't see him going down so easily though, he has Samahada and that's one hell of a sword (:. I wonder who the next owner of Samahada will be if Bee is to get captured. Will Suigestu make a return?

    Here is a link to a thread I created a while back. I think Zetsu are two different beings. The black half of Zetsu seems to have a much closer bond with Tobi whereas the white half doesn't know what's going on half the time.
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53296
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by gizmoekun View Post
    The chapter is boring
    Yea there wasn't a lot of action and it was mostly talking but really boring....personally I think flashbacks are more boring than a ton of new info.....if you think this is boring you might as well take a break from the manga and come back after the next big fight....Don't wanna b too harsh just saying that you gotta expect some of these kind of chapters..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    just a bit confused about this part

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/512/6

    what does Kabuto mean by "If not, this Zetsu's body will do just fine for now, if you're willing to 'share the wealth' as they say. It wouldn't even delay the Ten-Tail's revival at all."

    And how exactly is Kabuto going to make Zetsu stronger? I thought Tobi said his clones were weaker than the people he copies and are not created for combat. Is this a manga mistake? I also want to know if the copies that fought Negi, Lee, Tenten and Gai were created by Zetsu and not Pain.

    and lol at the part Tobi says, "i'll give you one zetsu". I am really hoping that Kishi doesn't "destroy" Zetsu's character. By "destroy", I mean "f**k up".

    One question answered, 3 new opened up.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    The best part of this awesome chapter was when naruto was poking gai ... lmfao
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    What is that black line (or cut) in demon statue's stomach ? The upper left panel seems focus on that. Looks like a surgery cut, is something taken or put inside of it ?

     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by JiraiyaSensei View Post
    Deidara is one of Kaubuto's summonings.

    Like Orochimaru summoned the First and Second Hokage when he fought the Sandaime
    Well that explains it thanks a lot dude
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by maldoror View Post
    What is that black line (or cut) in demon statue's stomach ? The upper left panel seems focus on that. Looks like a surgery cut, is something taken or put inside of it ?

    That black line is actually a metal rod... The exact one all the Pains had in the body and Nagato on the back..
    If you watch the flashback where Yahiko dies and Nagato fights Hanzou, you can see he summons it, and black rod come out of the summonings stomach and branches come out of that rod and stab nagato in the back.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    The chapter is a very good one.
    madara replenishing his troops.
    zetsus were scary enough.
    the heretical demon statue shown is somehow telling us that madara indeed had a hand over nagato.

    then, kabuto saying he could make zetsu stronger...wicked

    but deidara summon will face an improved gaara...gaara will get his revenge.

    kabuto will measure up Naruto's new powers...will engage in a dialogue...will have an evil proposal only him would benefit...will play a bit with naruto..then retreats.

    bee will be safe..for now

    4/5 chapter...nice one
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    *looks at all the people who said the spoilers were fake*

    Now this solves two things which have been bugging me for a while:

    1) How was Madara planning to fight an entire army of Shinobi?

    Answer: Breeding 100k Zetsu's

    2) How could he actually use the 7 tailed beasts he caught? I mean he made it appear like it would give him godlike powers if he would revive the Juubi, but if he doesn't have the 8 and 9-tails he can't do that so those beasts seemed pretty useless.

    Answer: He can drain it from chakra.


    Though it's a pity as I really wanted to see Madara trying to get Bee and Naruto.

    I really liked the scene of the Shinobi Alliance HQ
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    i would say total disgrace of the great first hokage ,"the man , from whom all ninja feared most" .kishi make the first hokage weeker than choji akimichi
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    lovely chapter overall but please kishi don't kill killer bee my buddy otherwise i'll cry
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

    Good chapter but i was expecting more ... next chapter will be great i mean kabuto will summon 6 or 8 great ninjas to fight naruto be yamato the 2 weaker ninjas and 2 hokages.

    but it cant be that deidara can beat all of them ... be and naruto both build on speed they are pretty strong , and sumonings are not that strong as real ninjas if we remember the fight orochimaru vs 3th hokage.

    well using deidara just to flly LOL why not
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

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    Deidara/Kabuto VS. Onoki/Gaara

    sounds exiciting :D
     
         

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