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    can anyone explain me the end of fate/zero?

    Ep 24 + 25 where saber fought against bersekrer and emiya against kirei. and irisviel turning against kiritsgugu and him destroying the grail wtf
     
         

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    Re: can anyone explain me the end of fate/zero?

    What is there to explain?

    Saber realized that Berserker was a m8 and won the fight.
    Kotomine Kirei was about to get his brains blown out and then the holy grail overflowed.
    The grail chose Emiya Kiritsugu and it was screwing with him for a while but it chose him anyways then it offers him the wish to live with his wife and daughter again but if he gave in to the grail the world would be destroyed.

    He kills his daughter and wife inside of the grail because he says if its either them or the world he kills them.
    Once he gets out of the grail he uses all 3 command spells to command saber to destroy the grail while Gilgamesh was molesting Saber.
    The Grail started to fulfill Kotomine Kirei's wish of ending Humanity but because Saber mostly destroyed the grail it couldn't fulfill his wish completely so instead on the town/city was destroyed.

    Emiya found a little ginger and raised it as his son.
    Kotomine Kirei somehow survived and was completely healed. Gilgamesh became a human or something.
     
         

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    Re: can anyone explain me the end of fate/zero?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tera Path View Post
    What is there to explain?

    Saber realized that Berserker was a m8 and won the fight.
    Kotomine Kirei was about to get his brains blown out and then the holy grail overflowed.
    The grail chose Emiya Kiritsugu and it was screwing with him for a while but it chose him anyways then it offers him the wish to live with his wife and daughter again but if he gave in to the grail the world would be destroyed.

    He kills his daughter and wife inside of the grail because he says if its either them or the world he kills them.
    Once he gets out of the grail he uses all 3 command spells to command saber to destroy the grail while Gilgamesh was molesting Saber.
    The Grail started to fulfill Kotomine Kirei's wish of ending Humanity but because Saber mostly destroyed the grail it couldn't fulfill his wish completely so instead on the town/city was destroyed.

    Emiya found a little ginger and raised it as his son.
    Kotomine Kirei somehow survived and was completely healed. Gilgamesh became a human or something.
    Perfect . Thanks. I just finidhed te Anime but didnt understand it
     
         

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    Re: can anyone explain me the end of fate/zero?

    Okay, let's see. I've seen a lot of people not really understanding the end of it. :P

    First about Saber(King Arthur) and Berserker(Lancelot, a knight of the round table with under Arthur).
    Lancelot was the one because of who the downfall of Arthur's empire(you can look up onto the typemoon wikia as what he did). What he wanted was 'punishment from the King for his misdeeds'. But Saber back in the day never actually gave him any sort punishment because he wasn't the one entirely at fault. She actually respected him and that is why she was hesitating him while fighting here in the holy grail war at first.
    Now, just additional info, Fate/Zero is actually based on a Light Novel and they did some changes in this scene. Saber in the anime defeated Berserker rather easily, while in the actual novel, Berserker only lost because his master Kariya couldn't give him any more prana/mana, and even then he had managed injure Saber quite heavily. In short Berserker=Beast , but the anime tweaked it a little.



    Now for the Kiritsugu and the Grail part. I will give some info out of Fate/Zero just so it'll be easy to understand. Some of it is from the sequel visual novel Fate/Stay night. But still most of it is shown in the anime, do watch the episode after.

    -First you know that Irisviel was made to be the vessel of the grail and thus she became the grail. Remember Irisviel herself from here on was no more. Now a special thing about the Holy Grail. The holy Grail was actually 'Corrupted" and it became "All the World’s Evil" in the Third Holy Grail war by "Angra Mainyu". (I'm sure they said this name in he anime). Angra mainyu was a servant in the 3rd holy grail war, initially he was the 'evil of all world' and he was defeated and absorbed by the grail in the 3rd H.G war. His defeat was what corrupted the grail and it became the world's evil.
    Because of this, the grail always twists the wishes of the wisher into something bad and would try to erase the humanity, like he did with Kiritsugu. Know this, 'Grail-kun' will always suggest killing.

    Before Irisviel died, the grail took her last wish which was the win of kiritsugu and that was the reason why grail chose Kiritsugu as the winner first and offered to grant his wish.

    Now Grail IS evil of all humanity, but its not a "person". It does not have mind, neither it has a personality of his own, But it can act and communicate to other people via the personality of another person. He took the personality of Irisviel. The person talking to Kiritsugu was not Irisviel, it was the Will of the Grail but it had adopted the personality of Irisviel. That was when Kiritsugu suspected that there is something wrong with this Grail as it shouldn't have a will of it's own.
    Also, as mentioned in the anime, Grail mentioned that it wanted to be reborn in this world once again. Meaning, Angra Mainyu wanted to come out. Again another threat for the world aside from it's corruption.

    Grail grants someone's wishes only using the methods the wisher himself know.

    Kiritsugu had always killed the few to save many, his wish for attaining world peace would be accomplished in same way, by killing the minority to save the majority. Grail would destroy few to save many again and again and again and again till only three people would remain in the world, Iris and Illya and Kiritsugu.

    The only world peace that Kerry's methodology can accomplish is the whole world being dead as the grail told him. In short, Kiritsugu's wish=end of humanity.

    Kerry clearly states afterwards that its the choice between his own family and the whole world. Grail promised him a happy life with his family but the cost was too great for that, which was the end of humanity. Not falling for the grail's trickery he chose the world. He didn't actually killed his daughter and wife, it were just illusions created by the grail. But their personality was real, meaning had Kiritsugu shot Illya in front of the real Irisviel, she still would've hated him for that. And kiritsugu experienced something like that.. Poor guy..
    So he rejected the grail and the grail cursed kiritsugu for the life.

    So he orders Saber to destroy the grail so it would not ever happen. He didn't want the grail to get in wrong hands.
    Saber on other hand has absolutely no idea about the real Nature of the grail, so it was like an ultimate betrayal for her.

    However Kiritsugu makes one mistake here - he destroys the "physical" part of the grail, while he should have tried to destroy the grail in the sky(that would've stopped the grail in this war but still wouldn't have destroyed it permanently and it would've appeared in the next H.G war). Thus the grail contents spill all over onto the town, causing fire and death everywhere(that mud was comparable to lava).

    [Actually the Grail then went to the second best contender which was Kirei and granted his wish which was to destroy everything. Though it couldn't destroy everything as it was weakened by Saber's Excalibur. Grail also gave kirei an artificial heart. About Gilgamesh, unfortunately the anime cut out this scene. In the novel, the grail(or say all the world's hatred) didn't affect gilgamesh. That guy just had too much "I" in him for him to get affected by humanity hatred. It recognised gilg as an outsider and gave him a real body too.]

    So all that destruction pretty much breaks Kerry. He did saved one kid though which he later adopted (That kid is in the sequel Fate/Stay Night). Kiritsugu lost his daughter as he couldn't bring back the grail to the Einzbern family and thus they didn't let him any where near the castle so that he could meet with her. Moreover, Angra Mainyu's curse eventually him cost his life, his limbs, sight and his magic circuits started to become useless.

    The very last scene, where Kiritsugu is sitting with Shirou and remembered that he wanted to be a hero is the scene of his death.


    Well hope it was easy enough to understand. You can ask if there's any other question. :D
     
         
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