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    Was Obito downgraded ?

    Kishi made it so that Juubi jinchurikiis can't phase through dimensions. So that's one OP ability down. Madara demonstrated that JJ can travel but not phase parts of their body.
    This means he could use Kamui onto others.

    Kakashi took some chakra without the Kyuubi cloak that Naruto gave him with just taping his hand and said his Kamui became 3 times more effective to the point he could put Hachibi into Kamuiland.

    Imagine Obito using the full power of 7 beasts with Kamui to wipe the alliance.








    Discuss what do you think , don't forget I'm talking about JJ Obito
     
         
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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Obito can teleport. He just couldn't phase.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Electric Boogaloo View Post
    Obito can teleport. He just couldn't phase.
    That's what I said
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Agreed. Obito was deliberately downgraded. So he could be beaten by sasuke and naruto. If he had kamui no one would have stood a chance. The same can be said for madara, why was he only using limbo? What happened to the other OP rinnegan powers demonstrated by nagato?

    Anyway juubito with kamui would have killed naruto and sasuke no problem.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    yes, he would have wrecked everyone if he could use kamui nevermind the bijuu chakra enhancing it, him not being able to phase was straight up bullshit.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Obito would have won the war easily with that ability
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Kishi always seems to nerf antagonists whenever they to up against the main characters
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    He sure was.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Electric Boogaloo View Post
    Obito can teleport. He just couldn't phase.
    Even his teleportation was taken away from him. If obito could use it he would have just sent either sasuke or naruto or even both of them to the kamui world. So that no one would rise up to stop him from casting IT.

    If he wants he can bring them back to the normal dimension and put them in the illusion as well at the time of activation
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerkak View Post
    Agreed. Obito was deliberately downgraded. So he could be beaten by sasuke and naruto. If he had kamui no one would have stood a chance. The same can be said for madara, why was he only using limbo? What happened to the other OP rinnegan powers demonstrated by nagato?

    Anyway juubito with kamui would have killed naruto and sasuke no problem.
    Madara was weakened by Guy and Naruto's Yoton RS. Minato stole his TSB. He was even stripped out of his JJ powers. The moment he gets his other Rinnegan Naruto and Sasuke blow his CTs out and BZ one shots him. Thinking back it seems like he was a plot device. Still wondering why BZ couldn't do that with Obito but I guess it was needed so Naruto and Sasuke could have a counter for Kaguya's dimensions.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    There have been many instances where obito could have teleported himself (when minato and naruto almost broke his shield) or the attack (enton+ frs) in order to defend himself

    Madara suddenly being able to use kamui was poor writing done specially for madara
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Quote Originally Posted by KuroKami View Post
    Kishi always seems to nerf antagonists whenever they to up against the main characters
    That doesn't seem the case right now.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Obito was hit with Plot Nerf,if he could use all of his abilities then the good guys would lose.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    yeah Kishi couldn't let that one slide. He would end everything instantly. Minato and tobirama would've been the only ones to hiraishin out before it's too late.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    np, not at all
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiraishin Stage 3 View Post
    There have been many instances where obito could have teleported himself (when minato and naruto almost broke his shield) or the attack (enton+ frs) in order to defend himself

    Madara suddenly being able to use kamui was poor writing done specially for madara
    He could distort all their attacks including Naruto's avatar tails and Sasuke's Susanoo if he still used his ability with TB chakra.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiraishin Flash View Post
    yeah Kishi couldn't let that one slide. He would end everything instantly. Minato and tobirama would've been the only ones to hiraishin out before it's too late.
    True and probably Naruto without his full avatar since his shunshin on that form is on par with FTG.
    The point is he could just distort big incoming attacks
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerkak View Post
    Agreed. Obito was deliberately downgraded. So he could be beaten by sasuke and naruto. If he had kamui no one would have stood a chance. The same can be said for madara, why was he only using limbo? What happened to the other OP rinnegan powers demonstrated by nagato?

    Anyway juubito with kamui would have killed naruto and sasuke no problem.
    I agree for the most part, but Naruto and Sasuke had support from the alliance and all hokage's 1-4.

    If not, BSM naruto would of stopped at the absorption of the god tree and EMS Sasuke may of seen his brother again in Infinte tsukyomi.

    If he had kamui....

    Well, he would just stay into dimensions until the god tree gathered enough chakra to start the project.

    The way he lost was unreal, considering that he gave up the fight leading to their victory.


    And Madara using only limbo, when he could of chibakui tensei early or shrina tensei them across the earth like you were probably implying.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    Plot happened that's what.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    The people pretending he could teleport are insane. They have no evidence to back it up. Why would one part of a jutsu to blocked but the other part not be? And why would Any of it be blocked in the first place.

    Kamui was definately restricted just so that The story wouldn't end with Obito beating the crap out of Naruto and Sasuke even after the sage showed up and gave them the powerups he should have given them since chapter 629 (Page 6), Casting infinite Tsukiyomi, then riding off into the sunset on a horse made of Gudou Dama's.
     
         

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    Re: Was Obito downgraded ?

    i wanted to see mads turn into a robot
    when i saw madara going for kakshis eye i screamed nooo plot nooo!

    obito was nerfed bc naruto and minato needed father son bonding time. it was as if obito wasnt even a threat or was there at all. like helloooo ima tryin to destroy da woruldo!

    also why didnt they get their god powerups while fighting against obito? he wasnt a big enough threat for hago to care?
     
         

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