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    3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    I thought it was time to also criticize my favs at times so I made one of these for 4 of my fav manga that have their own sections on the base, check them out

    the 3 biggest gripes I have with Naruto

    1. The power scaling: the power scaling in Naruto at this point is extremely poor, in part one the epitome of strength was the Hiruzen v Orochimaru fight but by now we have had regular jounins with much more impressive attacks and skills. There are many examples like Madara wiping the floor with the entire alliance and the Hokage and after that powered up twice (including the Bijuu) and than he nearly got his ass kicked by Gai. By now some of the once uber tiers like Jiraiya, Minato, Orochimaru, Nagato, Itachi have by now been reduced to fodder compared to what are now top tiers.

    2. The war arc: yes for me all that happened these 3 (or whatever) years is basically one big arc. I like quite a few parts of the arc but there are many gripes I have with it: Edo Tensei ppl we saw before and that were even killed before, the ever changing final villain, Obito and Rin, Kaguya who randomly came into the story like a rabbit out of a hat, Kabuto's flashback, KinGin, …

    3. The inconsistencies and forgotten elements: while small plot-holes like Madara using Susanoo without eyes do not bother me (though I do think it affects the quality) there are some I really do mind, one of the bigger inconsistencies is the hard-work theme or the before mentioned power scale inconsistency, also the overuse of the (when introduced) very rare and ''powerful'' Sharingan and at this point even Rinnegan, the forgotten ninja element ... Also the way too many side-characters that are too often simply forgotten.


    what are the 3 biggest gripes you have with Naruto?
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    1- Villans being trolled
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Lack of Taijutsu and strategic fights.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Finding out the Black poop was... erm, I mean Black Zetsu was the main cause for everything going on ATM.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    i agree with number 3 a lot.. i really miss the lower scaled ninja theme.. shuriken jutsu and weapon usage was cool imo.. if i wanted larger scale thing ide go watch DBZ and Toriko but i like naruto for a different reason
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Well I have three general gripes.

    1. Why does Naruto really need a sidekick like Sasuke? I know hes the main hero and a god but he really devotes way too much time babysitting his subordinate (Sasuke).

    2. I really don't like the plot shields that some characters have. Who gets stabbed by Madara and survives? The plot shield is way too much for some of the minor side characters.

    3. I hope that after the war Naruto doesn't build a memorial for his sidekick like its been rumored.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    a mastermind being manipulated is getting outplayed reallllll fast

    the fanbase/fapboys of certain ninjas that they bandwagon on....like prime 3rd and trollbito and dsm kabuto

    yea the loop holes im starting to think kishi forgot bout them
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Crappy writing
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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    1- Akatsuki members being defeated so soon

    2- Lack of Taijutsu

    3- Talk no jutsu


    About the power scalling, I knew from the beggining that Naruto would be OP, in the 1st chapter they say Kurama can destroy mountains with a swing of his tail and we all knew Naruto would have to controll Kurama at a certain point
     
         
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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aqeel96 View Post
    1- Villans being trolled
    ^^^This. Im so sick and tired
    Of all that talk no jutsu and friendship stuff.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Poor writing/usage of female characters like Kurenai and Sakura
    Akatsuki taken out way too quickly
    The overuse of the puppet master, ie first it was Pain then Nagato...
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    1. Kaguya
    2. Reverse Harem no Jutsu
    3. Kaguya
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Lack of Taijutsu.
    Killing of (for Kishi) "irrelevant" people, without explaining their whole story.
    Making Naruto the main.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    1-Good villians becoming trash

    2-The number of illogical fanboys

    3-The constant use of uselless flashbacks
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Riker Slade View Post
    1. Kaguya
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    This ^^
    And for me two 17yrs are God like. Like who can beat them now???
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by ugh View Post
    Finding out the Black poop was... erm, I mean Black Zetsu was the main cause for everything going on ATM.
    Yep, absolutely unnecessary character.

    And by the way, Naruto and Sasuke > everyone else.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Dude chill on the hype you are losing me with all your threads.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    1. uchihas


    2. lack of uzumaki's


    3. no real villains
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    While I agree with the ones that were posted in the OP, I'll do my own.

    1. The way characters who were once so important in the story being tossed aside and butchered for the sake of furthering the current plot.

    2. Kaguya. Shit villain.

    3. The power-scaling and the long-forgotten ninja element of the story. While it was once about less flashy attacks and more stealth and complex-plan-oriented, its just DBZ with different characters.

    The reasons above are why Naruto is the my least favourite manga by far out of the ones I read.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePooka View Post
    Well I have three general gripes.

    1. Why does Naruto really need a sidekick like Sasuke? I know hes the main hero and a god but he really devotes way too much time babysitting his subordinate (Sasuke).

    2. I really don't like the plot shields that some characters have. Who gets stabbed by Madara and survives? The plot shield is way too much for some of the minor side characters.

    3. I hope that after the war Naruto doesn't build a memorial for his sidekick like its been rumored.
    Damn, you just hate love Sasuke.

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    1. Lack of dept for some characters.

    2. Still no/little Uzumaki clan backstory when the MC is from that clan.

    3. Kishimoto should have written more about the other villages especially the Hidden Mist and the Hidden Stone Villages.

    That's all I guess.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    1. Kishi's treatment of Villains. Akatsuki, Orochimaru, Obito and Madara.

    2. Kaguya, most horrible thing Kishi ever done. Introduced final villain, just after he said that mange will go for another year. Kaguya is also so boring, she didn't even talk since she appeared. No development and no relationship with main characters and her personality is bleh.

    3. Reincarnation thing. It literaly throwed away whole development Naruto and Sasuke built for 15 years. In the end they didn't do anything, because they go with their intuition, all that was done because they are reincarnation of two brothers from milenium ago.
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverAssassin View Post
    While I agree with the ones that were posted in the OP, I'll do my own.

    1. The way characters who were once so important in the story being tossed aside and butchered for the sake of furthering the current plot.

    2. Kaguya. Shit villain.

    3. The power-scaling and the long-forgotten ninja element of the story. While it was once about less flashy attacks and more stealth and complex-plan-oriented, its just DBZ with different characters.

    The reasons above are why Naruto is the my least favourite manga by far out of the ones I read.
    Why do people talk about power scalling?

    We knew that Naruto would sooner or later controll Kurama, and since the 1st chapter Kurama was a beast

    So if you thought the power scalling wouldn't get higher from part 1, it's because you didn't pay attention
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    1. Repittion of flashbacks, and Naruto's ideals(hokage stuff).
    2. The whole master-puppet manipulation thing. First Nagato then Obito then Madara then Black Zetsu/Kaguya. Should have stopped at Madara.
    3. Poor use of some female characters
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud Guardian View Post
    Lack of Taijutsu.
    Killing of (for Kishi) "irrelevant" people, without explaining their whole story.
    Making Naruto the main.
    This, lol
     
         

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    Re: 3 Gripes You Have With Naruto?

    1. Deaths doesn't mean shit in Naruto, characters often gets plotshielded

    2. This whole war arc ruined this entire series. Edos and every Konoha 11 got trolled or neglected the battles, and Naruto gets his ass handed to him.

    3. The powerscaling is off the chart. This is no longer about the Ninja battle system from part 1, instead we get this DBZ spamming Nukes and OP shit without any thrilling strategic and taijutsu fights.
     
         
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