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    CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Now PLEASE I know what happened in the fight but before you reply READ THREAD!!!!! You might learn something...

    Now remember what Danzo said when Sasuke fought Danzo and he caught Danzo in a Genjutsu(pitiful for Danzo)

    This is the version on NB


    If you buy VOLUME 51 it is translated more ACCURATELY it says

    "However, It's a farcry from Itachi's Tsukuyomi in which he freely munipulated time within the dreamscape."

    instead of

    "But, That's nothing compared to Itachi's tsukuyomi, which can control the length of the illusion"

    But they are both good. Danzo said he can control the LENGTH of the illusion and TIME within the DREAMscape right? Now remember when kakashi was hit with Tsukuyomi?

    Itachi controlled time to where the genjutsu would take place in a SPLIT SECOND REAL TIME but 3days in the DREAMscape right?



    Asuma said that kakashi was talking then dropped all of a sudden so in real life it was INSTANTANEOUS right? Which gave kakashi no time to break it... although Kakashi was being TORTURED for 3days and suffered the physical effects

    THAT is the FULL POWERED Tsukuyomi with DREAMscape CONTROL but if you PAY ATTENTION Itachi didn't use that on Sasuke in their fight! HERE IS PROOF

    Zetsu were watching Itachi and Sasuke the entire TIME!!! Which means it wasn't an INSTANT in REALTIME like he used on Kakashi but like a regular Genjutsu it took place at the SAME TIME as REALTIME! ALSO Sasuke wasn't in Genjutsu being Tortured for 3days so Itachi wasn't CONTROLLING TIME within THE DREAMSCAPE... so Itachi was using the same Tsukuyomi Sasuke used on Bee a breakable version that doesn't take place in an instant because the user doesn't control the time... Sasuke simply CAN't control TIME within the dreamscape but Itachi was just trying to let Sasuke win.



    That was Sasuke's tsukuyomi(WITHOUTH DREAMSCAPE) which neutralized bee for around a few seconds. If it was an Instant bee would be over even as a jinchuriki. What I am trying to say is that if Itachi used a FULL ON Tsukuyomi like against Kakashi it would have been over for Sasuke. But he didn't because he didn't want to defeat Sasuke.


     
         
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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    I'm pretty sure everyone knows that. If itachi wanted sasuke dead, he would have 1-shotted him with tsukyiomi in the beginning of their fight.
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Itachi literally could of ended the fight in a single second if he so sought to. I don't know about this, though. It could of been Tsukuyomi but Itachi just purposely let him escape it, which is possible. Though in my personal opinion it didn't really seem like Itachi used the Nightmare Realm.
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Ability to cast genjutsu =/= ability to break genjutsu.
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by HolyEyes View Post
    Itachi literally could of ended the fight in a single second if he so sought to. I don't know about this, though. It could of been Tsukuyomi but Itachi just purposely let him escape it, which is possible. Though in my personal opinion it didn't really seem like Itachi used the Nightmare Realm.
    No He simply casted it without controlling time so Sasuke could break it...
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by lanakui8 View Post
    Ability to cast genjutsu =/= ability to break genjutsu.
    My thread>Your comment you sound dumb and you will find out why when you read my thread
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiDaSoloKing View Post
    No He simply casted it without controlling time so Sasuke could break it...
    Oh, I see. Then that's not really Itachi's true Tsukuyomi then.
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiDaSoloKing View Post
    My thread>Your comment you sound dumb and you will find out why when you read my thread
    I read your thread, and it's still falsified as ability to cast genjutsu =/= ability to break genjutsu. Sasuke with his senjutsu chakra was powerful enough to break itachi's tsukuyomi while they were in that timeless reality. Just because sasuke can't control time with his genjutsu or can't use a genjutsu as powerful as itachi's does not mean he can't break itachi's.

    Also, why does zetsu watching them mean anything?
     
         
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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Itachi's whole idea was to drain Sasuke quickly so Orochimaru would come out and he can seal him.. he kind of underestimated him there...though Sasuke's also a brother, that factor can be played is well... if Itachi wanted Sasuke to break it, he wouldn't have to hold his eye and be surprised. Well, Itachi was ill, but nowhere in the manga did it state that there are specific levels of Tsukuyomi(weak, mid, high).
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Wow, a thread you actually thought it through. Well done
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Yeah, that's probably true. I never really bought the whole "People of the
    same eyes can break it" crap. At the time, Itachi was >>Sasuke.
    Even if Sasuke could break out, Itachi could've killed him in 1 second
    if Sasuke was in genjutsu for just that long.
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Itachi us above MS sasky neg diff and even EMS sasky gets reked by EMS Madara, sasky is the weakest ms user so far if we exclude Izuna ( Cause we dont know bout his powers )
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by lanakui8 View Post
    I read your thread, and it's still falsified as ability to cast genjutsu =/= ability to break genjutsu. Sasuke with his senjutsu chakra was powerful enough to break itachi's tsukuyomi while they were in that timeless reality. Just because sasuke can't control time with his genjutsu or can't use a genjutsu as powerful as itachi's does not mean he can't break itachi's.

    Also, why does zetsu watching them mean anything?
    Even a Jinchuriki can't break a Genjutsu in a SPLIT SECOND or a Genjutsu Sharingan master like Kakashi was.... Itachi's genjutsu is unbreakable only because it happens so fast
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarinth View Post
    Yeah, that's probably true. I never really bought the whole "People of the
    same eyes can break it" crap. At the time, Itachi was >>Sasuke.
    Even if Sasuke could break out, Itachi could've killed him in 1 second
    if Sasuke was in genjutsu for just that long.
    Not really because he used the FULL VERSION on sasuke before in jiraiya and Kizame's presence and Sasuke with his bloodd couldn't break it so that doesn't matter it's skill but only the regular version can be broken with skill the DREAMSCAPE CONTROL can't becasue no one can break Genjutsu in a split second
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiDaSoloKing View Post
    Even a Jinchuriki can't break a Genjutsu in a SPLIT SECOND or a Genjutsu Sharingan master like Kakashi was.... Itachi's genjutsu is unbreakable only because it happens so fast
    Jinchuriki surely can break it in a split second if their reality consists of a world where 72 hours = 1 second in real life. It's the same with sasuke, he perceived time as it flows in the tsukuyomi world, and therefore his mind operates at that rate as well, and with that he broke tsukuyomi.
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiDaSoloKing View Post
    No He simply casted it without controlling time so Sasuke could break it...
    i think you are right here.

    sasuke did break tsukuyomi so we will leave it at that if itachi wanted he could of used it on sasuke how he used it on kakashi like you pointed out. rep for the thread enjoyed it
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    A full-on Tsukiyomi wouldn't have made any difference. The explanation given for how Sasuke got out of Tsukiyomi was that, using his eyes, he managed to avoid getting hit altogether. If it was a full-scale Tsukiyomi, it would have just been that he avoided a full-scale Tsukiyomi. Sasuke never hit with Tsukiyomi in the first place, so Itachi's manipulation of time would have made no difference.

    Also, to the people saying that Itachi could have killed him during that one second, no he couldn't. The moment where Sasuke and then Itachi fell down, and BZ said Sasuke got hit, that short window of time was the entire ordeal where Sasuke saw Itachi taking out his eye and where Itachi was trying to nail a Tsuki. Itachi couldn't have killed Sasuke in that one second because he too stumbled during that second.
     
         
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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by kotori View Post
    Wow, a thread you actually thought it through. Well done
    You sound like someone who actually read the whole thing while THINKING.

    And for the rest of you I am saying Sasuke could never break tsukuyomi not that MS Itachi is stronger we all know that LOL
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by Riker Slade View Post
    A full-on Tsukiyomi wouldn't have made any difference. The explanation given for how Sasuke got out of Tsukiyomi was that, using his eyes, he managed to avoid getting hit altogether. If it was a full-scale Tsukiyomi, it would have just been that he avoided a full-scale Tsukiyomi. Sasuke never hit with Tsukiyomi in the first place, so Itachi's manipulation of time would have made no difference.
    NO dummy I am saying that Itachi didn't control time within the dreamscape because Sasuke would suffer the same result as Kaashi because a Genjutsu of tsukuyomi's power can't be broken in a split second not even by a jin so Sasuke would have lost and itachi didn't want that. The Tsukuyomi was MUCH weaker than the one placed on Kakashi
     
         

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    Re: CM Sasuke couldn't break Tsukuyomi(PROOF)

    Quote Originally Posted by Brainstorm View Post
    i think you are right here.

    sasuke did break tsukuyomi so we will leave it at that if itachi wanted he could of used it on sasuke how he used it on kakashi like you pointed out. rep for the thread enjoyed it
    Thanks... I am trying to explain that TIME CONTROL makes a HUGE difference
     
         

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