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    SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    NB is getting boring so lets have a debate... BTW this is a repost but whatev

    We all know that when Naruto fought Pain he was restrained and defeated which is when Hinata came to his aid and got fodderized right?

    Kurama then took over and started fighting Pain. At that point it was Pain vs Kurama not Pain VS Naruto because Naruto was not even fighting... He was to busy disrespecting Lord Minato while Kurama was fighting. Even KCM Naruto is not stronger than Pain considering that he couldn't get passed chibaku tensei without bee and Lord Itachi's help... So how is it that Naruto defeated Pain when it was Kurama who was fighting?

    I NEED explanation
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    you're right sm naruto lost to pain though base naruto beat him .
    Nah seriously Naruto lost to him,but with the ''help'' of kurama he beat him.
     
         
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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Your right, plot. The Edo Nagato was far above the paths though.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Indeed , Yes .
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Quote Originally Posted by gobb01 View Post
    Your right, plot. The Edo Nagato was far above the paths though.
    ofc....edo and all 6 in one? come on..and he was mobile!!
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    I already knew this
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Nah he won, he just had a shitton of lame ass help.

    Pain did have his mark ass beat before the kyuubi came in tho.
     
         
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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

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    Naruto landed a HIT WOW... but kurama solo'd -_-
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

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    Nah he won, he just had a shitton of lame ass help.

    Pain did have his mark ass beat before the kyuubi came in tho.
    He was restrained and defeated how he win?

    Kurama won.... duh
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

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    ofc....edo and all 6 in one? come on..and he was mobile!!
    What are you talking about? I was answering this.

    Even KCM Naruto is not stronger than Pain considering that he couldn't get passed chibaku tensei without bee and Lord Itachi's help...

    KCM > Pein but not Edo Nagato.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiDaSoloKing View Post
    He was restrained and defeated how he win?

    Kurama won.... duh
    he won by landing the final blow, he put down deva not the kyuubi, even if it was horseshit, a wins a win.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Naw in my view SM Naruto beat Pein. It took Pein to use a cheap tactic to get SM Naruto off guard in order to capture him.I believe in a one on one fight the last body would have been beaten.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiDaSoloKing View Post
    NB is getting boring so lets have a debate... BTW this is a repost but whatev

    We all know that when Naruto fought Pain he was restrained and defeated which is when Hinata came to his aid and got fodderized right?

    Kurama then took over and started fighting Pain. At that point it was Pain vs Kurama not Pain VS Naruto because Naruto was not even fighting... He was to busy disrespecting Lord Minato while Kurama was fighting. Even KCM Naruto is not stronger than Pain considering that he couldn't get passed chibaku tensei without bee and Lord Itachi's help... So how is it that Naruto defeated Pain when it was Kurama who was fighting?

    I NEED explanation
    Because the manga considers Kurama as part of naruto's power. Plus beating someone doesn't necessarily mean you are stronger than them, or that you can beat them in a fair scenario.

    Also, the only reason KCM Naruto needed Bee and Itachi-chan's help to bust the technique is because he had chakra split among 13 kage-level clones and therefore didn't have the firepower to do it himself.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

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    Naruto finished him, but Pain was already weakened by Kurama.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

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    he won by landing the final blow, he put down deva not the kyuubi, even if it was horseshit, a wins a win.
    WHAT? Pain was still DAMN powerful when he defeated naruto... Kurama did WAY MORE DAMAGE Naruto barely did SHIT but lay down and get fodderized... why Kurama no get cred for HIS win... same with Haku and orochimaru
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Quote Originally Posted by GamakichiTheUsurper View Post
    Naruto finished him, but Pain was already weakened by Kurama.
    YUP If Kurama NEVER helped... Naruto would be DONE when he was restrained

    SM Naruto< Pain

    SM Naruto and Kurama> Pain
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Naruto won that fight through intel and Nagato's tiredness but he won. What he used shouldn't matter, in that specific scenario he won.
     
         
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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

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    WHAT? Pain was still DAMN powerful when he defeated naruto... Kurama did WAY MORE DAMAGE Naruto barely did SHIT but lay down and get fodderized... why Kurama no get cred for HIS win... same with Haku and orochimaru
    He does, I said Naruto won with help in my first comment.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Quote Originally Posted by lanakui8 View Post
    Because the manga considers Kurama as part of naruto's power. Plus beating someone doesn't necessarily mean you are stronger than them, or that you can beat them in a fair scenario.

    Also, the only reason KCM Naruto needed Bee and Itachi-chan's help to bust the technique is because he had chakra split among 13 kage-level clones and therefore didn't have the firepower to do it himself.
    Kurama is only a part of Naruto's power since the moment in which he learns how to control it. But in the fight against Pain, it wasn't Naruto the one fighting, but Kurama.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

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    He does, I said Naruto won with help in my first comment.
    Oh, well apologies for the excessive harshness
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Let's just be real for 1 moment.These are the facts:
    1Naruto was the one to win against pein using his belief in hope.
    2 Although kurama was fighting he was using naruto's emotions.
    3This is the winning statement the anime is called"NARUTO" so of course he won.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Quote Originally Posted by GamakichiTheUsurper View Post
    Kurama is only a part of Naruto's power since the moment in which he learns how to control it. But in the fight against Pain, it wasn't Naruto the one fighting, but Kurama.
    Kurama is forced to be with naruto nothing more... if naruto was used as a power source that power is Naruto's just as Madara has Hashirama's power and kakashi has Obito's power just because they control it dont mean shit
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

    Quote Originally Posted by GamakichiTheUsurper View Post
    Kurama is only a part of Naruto's power since the moment in which he learns how to control it. But in the fight against Pain, it wasn't Naruto the one fighting, but Kurama.
    what do you base that claim on?
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto LOST to Pain

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    Oh, well apologies for the excessive harshness
    cool
     
         

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