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    How to Combat Izanagi?

    I've been reading allot of theory's lately and this one sounded good and i wanted to share it with you guys

    Izanagi is one of the mightiest jutsu that could be used by a sage of the six paths.
    So how can Naruto combat it?
    Here's a theory but first,
    When fighting against genjutsu you disrupt your own chakra flow or have someone force their chakra into you to disrupt the chakra flow right.
    Izanagi is a jutsu that blurs the line between gengutsu and reality.
    It works by casting a genjustu on oneself.
    If izanagi is essentially a genjutsu that is cast upon oneself then,
    all Naruto has to do is force his chakra into the person using izanagi and the jutsu is disrupted.

    What do u guys think?
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    yet again srry to be a killjoy, but izangi is not genjutsu, it is the combining of 'ying' and 'yang' chakra, essentially, combining imagination and lifeforce, it is a jutsu that alters reality to the users will, it is not an illusion or genjutsu based technique..
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by HereticSaint View Post
    yet again srry to be a killjoy, but izangi is not genjutsu, it is the combining of 'ying' and 'yang' chakra, essentially, combining imagination and lifeforce, it is a jutsu that alters reality to the users will, it is not an illusion or genjutsu based technique..
    Haha again nice thinking this a mere thought but it did sound possible who knows :D
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    i agree a bit with hereticSaint but anyways good theory though its sounds good if it was a genjutsu
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    madara explains it fully when he kills konan, manga issues 510/11 if u wanna know fully
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by HereticSaint View Post
    yet again srry to be a killjoy, but izangi is not genjutsu, it is the combining of 'ying' and 'yang' chakra, essentially, combining imagination and lifeforce, it is a jutsu that alters reality to the users will, it is not an illusion or genjutsu based technique..
    Firstly.. Izangi is a genjutsu

    Izanagi is a genjutsu that's meant to be cast on oneself instead of others, and it's the most powerful among them.[1] When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree, this allows the user to control their own state of existence. It is normally only active for the briefest of moments.


    even so..how are you going to transfer your chakra into the person ?
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Faith~ View Post
    Firstly.. Izangi is a genjutsu

    Izanagi is a genjutsu that's meant to be cast on oneself instead of others, and it's the most powerful among them.[1] When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree, this allows the user to control their own state of existence. It is normally only active for the briefest of moments.


    even so..how are you going to transfer your chakra into the person ?
    o.O, really, the way madara explains it in the manga, it isnt a genjutsu...
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by HereticSaint View Post
    o.O, really, the way madara explains it in the manga, it isnt a genjutsu...
    Well..maybe he just explained where does this tech come from/ made by who
    he didn't really explained how does it really work...well at least danzo did explained you can look at the fight between danzo and sasuke..[ is it danzo who explained it? i forgotten lol anyway nvm <_< ]
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    the izangi madara used was different to danzo's, danzo could only use it for 1 minute and lose 1 eye, madara used it for ten, and he lost just 1 eye
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    If what you said is true that would mean that Neji for example would be perfect to combat Izanagi.
    It is however uncertain wether it is genjutsu or not.
    In the fight against Danzou Madara stated it is the strongest genjutsu one can cast on himself.
    But later on, this was called yin yang manipulation.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    When Naruto face Itachi He did not have Sage Mode nor SO6P Mode and Itachi was impress on Naruto growth at the time but that Naruto did not yet have enough power to break out on His own. Now Naruto can start with His own chakra and switch to Sage Mode then SO6P Mode causing at each stage a Bio Feedback on the person producing the genjutsu that not only could and should break out but Hurt the Genjutsu user making Him not want to try again.
     
         
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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    so i guess im right about it that it is a genjutsu ??
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Faith~ View Post


    even so..how are you going to transfer your chakra into the person ?
    its just like freeing someone from a genjutsu just like sakura did once when itachi had naruto in a genjutsu

    That way you can transfer chakra into a person i think
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Naruto in SO6P mode has the ability to affect objects that that chakra comes in contact with as it did Yamato's totem remember? And Sage chakra taking in by non Sage types start turning them to frogs. This two types of chakra may be enough to discourage Madara for the for mention affects that could happen to Him, we will have to wait and see if it happens.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    izanagi isnt really a genjutsu...so i have to disagree..but good theory though
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by naruto43va View Post
    izanagi isnt really a genjutsu...so i have to disagree..but good theory though
    It starts as a genjutsu it simply blurs the line of were a genjutsu starts and were it ends by substituting one reality for a noter. And using a lot of power to do so thats why the Sharingan in the left eye of Madara then gives out, thats why Madara is now using a Rinnegan so that limitation is now remove and He can use the tech over and over as long as His chakra holds out.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Faith~ View Post
    Well..maybe he just explained where does this tech come from/ made by who
    he didn't really explained how does it really work...well at least danzo did explained you can look at the fight between danzo and sasuke..[ is it danzo who explained it? i forgotten lol anyway nvm <_< ]
    but then in the same manga madara said that danzo used a imperfect izanagi
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Honord Sage View Post
    It starts as a genjutsu it simply blurs the line of were a genjutsu starts and were it ends by substituting one reality for a noter. And using a lot of power to do so thats why the Sharingan in the left eye of Madara then gives out, thats why Madara is now using a Rinnegan so that limitation is now remove and He can use the tech over and over as long as His chakra holds out.
    This sounds really interesting ( that he can use izanagi over and over again as long as his chakra holds out )

    Then he would be the ultimate villain damn it would be very hard to beat him then
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by NineTailedSharingan View Post
    This sounds really interesting ( that he can use izanagi over and over again as long as his chakra holds out )

    Then he would be the ultimate villain damn it would be very hard to beat him then
    Yes, and it may come down to Who has more chakra Madara? Or Naruto? A war of attrition who's chakra will give out first?
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    I see alot of users saying that Izanagi is not a Genjutsu, but in reality it was called exactly that at first, based in the Manga you could say it is a Genjutsu that uses yin and yang manipulation.

    To combat Izanagi is simple in my point of view, use an attack surprise on the user of Izanagi not giving him time to use it.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Honord Sage View Post
    Yes, and it may come down to Who has more chakra Madara? Or Naruto? A war of attrition who's chakra will give out first?
    I think naruto would win then because naruto has an HUGE Amount of Chakra haha he can make millions shadow clones lol
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manticore View Post
    I see alot of users saying that Izanagi is not a Genjutsu, but in reality it was called exactly that at first, based in the Manga you could say it is a Genjutsu that uses yin and yang manipulation.

    To combat Izanagi is simple in my point of view, use an attack surprise on the user of Izanagi not giving him time to use it.
    but there is a very low chance to kill or finish someone on surprise especially on madara he wont go down with just 1 hit

    so he always will be prepared trough a fight to use Izanagi if it goes wrong...
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    izanagi how to combat it?

    Kil them.

    AGAIN
    AND AGAIN
    AND AGAIN
    AND AGAIN
    AND AGAIN
    AND AGAIN
    AND AGAIN
    AND AGAIN

    Until they run out of eyes....problem solved.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Honord Sage View Post
    Naruto in SO6P mode has the ability to affect objects that that chakra comes in contact with as it did Yamato's totem remember? And Sage chakra taking in by non Sage types start turning them to frogs. This two types of chakra may be enough to discourage Madara for the for mention affects that could happen to Him, we will have to wait and see if it happens.
    NOPE :flaw:
    Naruto's SO6P cloak only affected yamato's wood jutsu because it contain's the excatly the same life energy (Yang chakra) as naruto's cloak.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    to be honest i don't think there is a counter for Izanagi..but we shall find out
     
         

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