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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Listen to this may by as naruto's new cloack is the pure life energy (yang chakra) maybe is can also draw yang chakra to itself. This would work by drainig madara of his life energy.

    Maybe that is how inzanagi can be countered........ No yang release no inzanagi !
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    What happens when someone uses Izanagi to fight Izanagi? xD
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    I believe that the obvious answer is to not try to kill the person. When Sasuke fought Danzo, he strategy was to force Danzo to use Izanagi until all his sharingan closed. Now if Madara can use Izanagi an unlimited amout of times(which I believe is the only reason why he'd implant the Rinnengan since he has not been able to use any offensive dojustu) if Naruto just traps him or seals him somehow then it won't matter. The problem is of course that Madara can also use space-time jutsu so I'm curious to see what Sasuke(the person I believe will be the one to finish Madara) will do.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    surely in a logical sense izanami should be the counter for izanagi.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Izanagi is cast on the user not the opponent so technical Naruto can do nothing but wait til it wears off... to beat izanagi... I think u simply poke them in the eye... getting to the eye is a completely different challenge
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Naruto should fart in Madara's face like he did to Kiba. Not that it'll do anything, but this manga lacks that kind of humour from back in part 1.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Hell yeah... Sharingan+rinnegan+pink eye=death for izinagi user
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    I believe the flaw is going to be much the same as Kakashi's Sharingan. As Rinnegan is not Madara's Native Eye (and yes i know he said it was his in the first place, but he isn't incapable of lying, so until we see proof that it was his in the first place, then i'm going to assume he was lying), i believe that using the Rinnegan to activate Izanagi will expend large amounts of chakra, and i believe Madara won't realize this, so he'll go reckless and end up expending a large amount of chakra, evening out the fight.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    I reckon the Rinnegan holds a different case though.

    If there was a way to combat Izanagi, Sasuke found it out. Simple Genjutsu!
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Force it to be deactivated. Then kill. I thought a clever deception trick on whoever the user of Izanagi is to make you think your opponent is dead would do well.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Multiple ways to combat Izanagi.
    Top two ways:

    A) Start off by using long range attacks and get a sense of the time it takes for your opponent to phase out using Izanagi then use taijutsu to force the opponent to keep using izanagi and drain their chakra. Once they are done proceed with a killing blow.

    B) Use a genjutsu to make the opponent believe they have chakra left to use Izanagi and then proceed to kill them.
    Source: Manga: When Sasuke was fighting Danzo.

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Actually Madara said it can only be used once per eye that is why hey now has one rinnegan he lost a sharigan in the fight with konan to izanagi so basically it is a last ditch justu for him so to combat it naruto would have to force him into a corner to use it the kill him afterwards of course naruto wants to end the streak of violence so he will just talk to him and they will lock him up for 10000 years "wait wrong manga"
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Naruto is gonna Bojack him and trap him in the moon.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kawagiri View Post
    surely in a logical sense izanami should be the counter for izanagi.
    But what does Izanami doooooooooo D:
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Modaro View Post
    NOPE :flaw:
    Naruto's SO6P cloak only affected yamato's wood jutsu because it contain's the excatly the same life energy (Yang chakra) as naruto's cloak.
    Izanagi replaces reality with the user idea of reality, energy to change matter Naruto has the life giving force of the SO6P it affects reality, weather the original or the Madara created.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Well since it is the strongest genjutsu one can cast on himself I would say disrupting thier chakra flow might help.
    This might get Neji and the other Hyuuga back in the story, since their juuken fighting style is based on pouring their own chakra into their enemies.
    Although Izanagi is something special, the sharingan can usually help seeing through genjutsu, but Sasuke failed miserably at this in the fight against Danzou.
    Pouring in chakra might not work either, but who knows, we'll see.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Well I got a good theory in the matters of Naruto Vs Madara.
    Madara can't be "surprised" in anyway, because he got the sharingan so he cant really be surprised when he knew the opponent's next move, and Naruto got to move at the speed of Raikage to surprise him.
    To fight off Izanagi is something with his new kyuubi cloak, I'm 200% sure of that thing because Izanagi uses yin and yang chakra, and Naruto's cloak have seen to give a effect on the yang chakra.
    That's will certainly disrupt the flow of the genjutsu, forcing Madara back to reality.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Every jutsu has a weakness and downside, Izanagi is no different. Does anyone remember back to Itachi's Susanoo and the billion threads stating that he was God? Fun times, lol.

    Honestly, Naruto is a really bad matchup for Madara because of his deceptiveness and cleverness, and knuckleheadedness. I foresee Madara getting tricked and wasting his Izanagi (e.x. shadow clone FRS or something). People (Sasuke, Konan) have been going brute force against Izanagi, and I don't think that by definition, it can work.

    I see no reason someone infusing their chakra wouldn't shorten Izanagi, but it wouldn't cancel it. Given how fast Naruto already is, he could make it last about a second after having a flashback to Jiraiya's talk on Genjutsu or Pa toad.


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    By the way, nice thread. No jutsu is invincible, and it's nice to see a rational discussion on the subject matter; rather than the angry threads on Susanoo and what not.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    We saw that when Madara uses Iznagi the Sharigan in His left eye burn out like a light bulb probably meaning that a huge amount of power must be force on the eye to achieve the desired result. Now Madara has the Rinnegan that should handle the power and not burn out, but suppose it needs a cool down period? Pain when using His power against the village and Naruto needed a 5 second cool down period. The same might apply when using Iznagi giving Naruto a grace period to plan and react, especially with His super speed and strength. That may be the key.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kawagiri View Post
    surely in a logical sense izanami should be the counter for izanagi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari Shinji Kun View Post
    But what does Izanami doooooooooo D:
    Agreed Kawagiri.

    But only a Uchiha would be able to activate it though?

    Personally I believe Itachi's gift is Izanami but it will only be released when naruto dies.

    Itachi believes Naruto will be killed either by Sasuke or in front of Sasuke. Then a crow (i.e. Itachi chakra) will fly towards Sasuke and give him the power of Izanami.

    Izanami I believe is the power to bring the dead back to life or some sort of variation of affecting the dead.

    Basically Sasuke will have to choose to save Naruto or not. I believe Itachi has taken a gamble in the fact Naruto will die and Sasuke will redeem himself by bringing him back to life.

    Heres my theory on it...probably better explained there.

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54045

    Izanami btw in japanese mythology I believe is the Wife/Sister of Izanagi.
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by NineTailedSharingan View Post
    I've been reading allot of theory's lately and this one sounded good and i wanted to share it with you guys

    Izanagi is one of the mightiest jutsu that could be used by a sage of the six paths.
    So how can Naruto combat it?
    Here's a theory but first,
    When fighting against genjutsu you disrupt your own chakra flow or have someone force their chakra into you to disrupt the chakra flow right.
    Izanagi is a jutsu that blurs the line between gengutsu and reality.
    It works by casting a genjustu on oneself.
    If izanagi is essentially a genjutsu that is cast upon oneself then,
    all Naruto has to do is force his chakra into the person using izanagi and the jutsu is disrupted.

    What do u guys think?
    your 100% right, izanagi is the most powerful, and theres still alot to it that madara isn't given away!
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Honord Sage View Post
    Izanagi replaces reality with the user idea of reality, energy to change matter Naruto has the life giving force of the SO6P it affects reality, weather the original or the Madara created.
    What are you speaking about
     
         

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    Re: How to Combat Izanagi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Modaro View Post
    What are you speaking about
    Madara stated that izanagi blurs the lines between genjutsu and reality allowing Him to substituted reality with His own idea of reality yet what ever is reality must be affected by the same energy that SO6P energy coming out of Naruto.
     
         

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