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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    To be honest I am amazed that Neji or Gai aren't the close combat captains.

    But anyway, Madara and Kabuto are awesome, not only is their army bigger, thier opponents greatest fighters will also have to deal with a bit of psychological trauma as well.
    I wonder If he revived Jiraiya and the white fang as well, and of course...DANZOU.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    i FEEL LIKE COMPLAINING.. THE MANGA IS ENDING SOON and, I'm not satisfied with the story...bye, b ye, Naruto
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by black uchiha View Post
    Kakashi can only do it like twice.
    Uhhu...thats 2 opponents dead if he gets them.

    Or if they manage to round them up he could get almost all of them at once.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by veggetta13 View Post
    i FEEL LIKE COMPLAINING.. THE MANGA IS ENDING SOON and, I'm not satisfied with the story...bye, b ye, Naruto
    i dont think Naruto Manga will end when this WAR ends. I'm pretty sure Kabuto will betray Madara before his MOONS eye plan. and i think that a good way to pro-long the story.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    Uhhu...thats 2 opponents dead if he gets them.

    Or if they manage to round them up he could get almost all of them at once.
    every time he has used it the most he got was a arm and a nail...lol i don't see it being a big threat...but who knows?
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrael View Post
    The other kages most likely know sealing techniques.
    I would be surprised if they didn't.
    The third and the fourth knew sealing techniques. For the third, it was due to his overwhelming amount of knowledge he has and the fourth knew it due to Naruto's mother Kushina. I am sure the other kages know some as well.
    Hopefully when the Uzumaki scattered some of their Fuuinjutsu got scattered in the other 4 countries. Either way, there's going to have to be more than one way to skin a cat, or in this case seal a soul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy120290 View Post
    Ways to combat Edo Tensei.

    New Bijuu Cloak powers from Naruto.

    Kakashis MS wormhole.

    DDS isnt required but someone could take out all the summons in one with DDS.
    I don't know how RDS by Naruto solves the Edo Tensei problem. As stated below, Kakashi is good for maybe 3 Kamui's, and then he's not able to do much unless he opens a gate perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Honord Sage View Post
    Anything made by Kishi is canon, Kishi decides what is in and out in the Naruto world not you or I.
    I'm pretty sure Kishi has little to nothing to do with the anime, especially the fillers. For example, in the fight between Kakuzu and Kakashi, Kakashi used a Katon (fire release) jutsu, and he doesn't have the fire element in the manga. It's unlikely he does, and that he simply chooses to not use it. Now, if I'm wrong, that's fine, but the policy I know is that manga and anime are separate.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeiel422 View Post
    jiraiya will be, there for sure just wait!!!
    Yeah, his body can't be that hard, but it would be kind of a waste to show him now. The only problem is that Jiraiya's best jutsu and his strongest abilities are directly tied to his summonings of the toads and sage mode. If zombie Jiraiya can actually summon them, I doubt that they'd fight for him. Otherwise he's strong, but not epic like he was at the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by black uchiha View Post
    Kakashi can only do it like twice.
    Yeah 2-3 times. Plus, he can't miss, and the shinobi you'd want him to hit the most, such as Nagato/Itachi, are going to be the most likely to evade it.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Nagato, Itachi and Kakuzu could handle them... <_< just saying...
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Pain took on everyone in da leaf ay himself and won till naruto showed up, and my boi e-tot took out imo the strongest clan in da naruto world, Deidara took out gaara and imo could have took out da whole sand vill, madara took over da vill hid in da mist (with no force) and now he has da rinnegan, witch brings me to another point team madara, has 2 sets of rinnegan, 3 sets of MS 2 of witch are EMS, 6 Jinchuuriki, and 100,000 zets now looking back on da real zet his clone was enough to keep killerbee busy. not even getting into all of the rest of da beast kabuto summoned....if this was real (not a hero story) Naruto & co ("da good guys") imo would not win.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by Honord Sage View Post
    Anything made by Kishi is canon, Kishi decides what is in and out in the Naruto world not you or I.
    See the thing is... Filler's aren't made by Kishi, or atleast that's what I've read and hand heard. Fillers aren't canon.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    See the thing is... Filler's aren't made by Kishi, or atleast that's what I've read and hand heard. Fillers aren't canon.
    correct anime is not considered canon

    and damn that was alot of pretty monstrous shinobi.the likes of hanzou,jinchuuriki,kage,akatsuki,and kimimaru....thats some crazy shyt that kabuto can summon them and not die of overuse of chakra.

    I can't wait to see kimimaru again.and honestly every summon kabuto has as well.kishi really out did himself this time

    also there are alot of people we've been dying to see in action:Hanzo for starters,jinchuurikis,and others we've never seen fight but always wanted to.maybe kishi really does read the forums 0_o

    ssshhhh he'll hear you
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    I wonder why Kabuto bothered summoning Zabuza and Haku. I mean, they're awesome characters, but they seem kinda outclassed since all the other characters in the manga have improved so much.
    Hanzo, on the other hand...he beat all of the Dantetsu no Sannin while they were in their PRIME!! I bet he's gonna cause major trouble for the alliance.
    And to clear a few things up about Kinjutsu (Forbidden Techniques) and S-Ranks.
    Kinjutsu are frobidden because they either cause major damge to the user's body, the death of the user, uncontrollable destruction, or violate the basic laws of nature.
    Edo Tensei is forbidden because it violates the laws of nature and is considered to be potentially physchologically unfair because of the effect seeing dead loved ones has on living ninja.
    Fuuton: RasenShuriken, on the other hand, is a Kinjutsu because it damages the user's chakra pathways unless it is encased in senjutsu chakra and thrown.
    S-Ranked techniques are simply really powerful jutsu. So, Raikiri is S-Rank for example, as is Amaterasu and Kirin.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    As for Kamui...
    We have to remember that Kakashi's Kamui is A LOT more accurate then during his fight with Deidara. He was able to warp a NAIL and a fast-moving MISSILE away during his fight with the God Realm Pein. Just sayin'.
    But it's definitely true that he could get rid of at least a couple.
    And couldn't you just destroy the seal tags on the back of their heads? O.o 'Cause that would release them from Kabuto's control, and depending on how the jutsu works, either cause the bodies to dissinigrate or let the original personality of the soul return. That would be interesting, seeing as how a lot of the summoned people are ones that would help the Alliance.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    I just think it is funny that Hanzo was left out of the Kage's box... He was the kage before Pain killed him.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    I noticed some stuff!

    First, did you notice the colored picture in the manga that reads something like: "For the first time in their lives, they get ready for war"? Well, look at Tobi's two eyes, the flesh surrounding the Sharingan is wrinkly, but around the Rinnengan it is smooth. Could be an art style, but it seems distinct enough to be intentional.

    Next, Kabuto definitely has the info on Madara from Orochimaru. I am compelled to say that both Oro and Danzo (who Oro experimented on) had some grand scheme to bring down Madara.

    Also, do we trust Mifune? He is not a ninja and he has the same old man marks as Tobi. Just saying.

    Finally, let's not forget that Jugo and Shisui are part of Madara's super army.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    The fight's not fair, using logic and instincts it would be ridiculous to think of the alliance getting a victory....

    Kishi just went nuts
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Ne1 wonder why Kisame wasn't resurrected with the other Akatsuki members??
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by tyce View Post
    Ne1 wonder why Kisame wasn't resurrected with the other Akatsuki members??
    He could have been ressurected. I am positive we didn't see all the ones Kabuto summoned. It was a collective term when he said "and finally, shinobi who were skilled in their own right."

    But I could be mistaken.
    Maybe that was it and Kisame did not get summoned - in that case - Jiraiya would not get summoned either.
     
         
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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Naruto didnt even beat pain. Pain beat himself up and dead on his free will when he summon all the leaf villagers back. If Pain wasnt such a chatterbox and Naruto was standing in front of him. Konan would off easily finished off Naruto right there in the tree. Of course that would of been the end of the manga. Pain owns Naruto period.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Didnt you guys notice Tsunades Boyfriend Dan...what the hell is he doing there...who is he compare to Zazabu and Haku. Anyways, it doesnt matter who Kabuto summons. Any dead ninjaw killed on the Alliance can be re-summon by Kabuto. MADARA WINS YAY!
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by DepthCharge View Post
    Naruto didnt even beat pain. Pain beat himself up and dead on his free will when he summon all the leaf villagers back. If Pain wasnt such a chatterbox and Naruto was standing in front of him. Konan would off easily finished off Naruto right there in the tree. Of course that would of been the end of the manga. Pain owns Naruto period.
    winning is about convincing someone of whatever you are trying to accomplish.
    There are multiple ways to do this.
    A) Talk it through
    B) fight it through

    Naruto destroyed all of pein's six forms. So Naruto won the fight part. Pein was coughing out blood as he was talking - pretty sure that means naruto had the advantage. If Konan killed Naruto then technically, Pein wouldn't get the credit, Konan would. So either way Naruto won.

    So really, no, Pein is not stronger than Naruto because Naruto caused Pein to bend to Naruto's own will. Therefore, Naruto is stronger.
     
         

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