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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    I wonder why Kabuto bothered summoning Zabuza and Haku. I mean, they're awesome characters, but they seem kinda outclassed since all the other characters in the manga have improved so much.
    Hanzo, on the other hand...he beat all of the Dantetsu no Sannin while they were in their PRIME!! I bet he's gonna cause major trouble for the alliance.
    And to clear a few things up about Kinjutsu (Forbidden Techniques) and S-Ranks.
    Kinjutsu are frobidden because they either cause major damge to the user's body, the death of the user, uncontrollable destruction, or violate the basic laws of nature.
    Edo Tensei is forbidden because it violates the laws of nature and is considered to be potentially physchologically unfair because of the effect seeing dead loved ones has on living ninja.
    Fuuton: RasenShuriken, on the other hand, is a Kinjutsu because it damages the user's chakra pathways unless it is encased in senjutsu chakra and thrown.
    S-Ranked techniques are simply really powerful jutsu. So, Raikiri is S-Rank for example, as is Amaterasu and Kirin.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    As for Kamui...
    We have to remember that Kakashi's Kamui is A LOT more accurate then during his fight with Deidara. He was able to warp a NAIL and a fast-moving MISSILE away during his fight with the God Realm Pein. Just sayin'.
    But it's definitely true that he could get rid of at least a couple.
    And couldn't you just destroy the seal tags on the back of their heads? O.o 'Cause that would release them from Kabuto's control, and depending on how the jutsu works, either cause the bodies to dissinigrate or let the original personality of the soul return. That would be interesting, seeing as how a lot of the summoned people are ones that would help the Alliance.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    I just think it is funny that Hanzo was left out of the Kage's box... He was the kage before Pain killed him.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    I noticed some stuff!

    First, did you notice the colored picture in the manga that reads something like: "For the first time in their lives, they get ready for war"? Well, look at Tobi's two eyes, the flesh surrounding the Sharingan is wrinkly, but around the Rinnengan it is smooth. Could be an art style, but it seems distinct enough to be intentional.

    Next, Kabuto definitely has the info on Madara from Orochimaru. I am compelled to say that both Oro and Danzo (who Oro experimented on) had some grand scheme to bring down Madara.

    Also, do we trust Mifune? He is not a ninja and he has the same old man marks as Tobi. Just saying.

    Finally, let's not forget that Jugo and Shisui are part of Madara's super army.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    The fight's not fair, using logic and instincts it would be ridiculous to think of the alliance getting a victory....

    Kishi just went nuts
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Ne1 wonder why Kisame wasn't resurrected with the other Akatsuki members??
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by tyce View Post
    Ne1 wonder why Kisame wasn't resurrected with the other Akatsuki members??
    He could have been ressurected. I am positive we didn't see all the ones Kabuto summoned. It was a collective term when he said "and finally, shinobi who were skilled in their own right."

    But I could be mistaken.
    Maybe that was it and Kisame did not get summoned - in that case - Jiraiya would not get summoned either.
     
         
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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Naruto didnt even beat pain. Pain beat himself up and dead on his free will when he summon all the leaf villagers back. If Pain wasnt such a chatterbox and Naruto was standing in front of him. Konan would off easily finished off Naruto right there in the tree. Of course that would of been the end of the manga. Pain owns Naruto period.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Didnt you guys notice Tsunades Boyfriend Dan...what the hell is he doing there...who is he compare to Zazabu and Haku. Anyways, it doesnt matter who Kabuto summons. Any dead ninjaw killed on the Alliance can be re-summon by Kabuto. MADARA WINS YAY!
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by DepthCharge View Post
    Naruto didnt even beat pain. Pain beat himself up and dead on his free will when he summon all the leaf villagers back. If Pain wasnt such a chatterbox and Naruto was standing in front of him. Konan would off easily finished off Naruto right there in the tree. Of course that would of been the end of the manga. Pain owns Naruto period.
    winning is about convincing someone of whatever you are trying to accomplish.
    There are multiple ways to do this.
    A) Talk it through
    B) fight it through

    Naruto destroyed all of pein's six forms. So Naruto won the fight part. Pein was coughing out blood as he was talking - pretty sure that means naruto had the advantage. If Konan killed Naruto then technically, Pein wouldn't get the credit, Konan would. So either way Naruto won.

    So really, no, Pein is not stronger than Naruto because Naruto caused Pein to bend to Naruto's own will. Therefore, Naruto is stronger.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Did anyone see how yamato was like da black half of zet and da first clone looked like da white half
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    thats is just yamatos clothes that is revieled when his jacket is removed
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by pemayozer View Post
    thats is just yamatos clothes that is revieled when his jacket is removed
    I know dat, dat is y I said like, I'm talking about da symbolic look of it, u no yin and yang
     
         
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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by Felixman View Post
    i cant wait till the anime catches up......its getting epic
    I guess that this will take about 1 - 1,5 years, considering the endless filler episodes at the moment.

    I hope that the war will end like the LotR- Battles, in the end will happen some unexpected :-D
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    The only thing i know is that it is going to be realllllllllyyyyyyyyyy badass
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    the war will be devestating to the alliance imagine jiraiya,pain,itachi,hanzo leading the way for akatsuki and killing them is impossible unless when using a sealing jutsu it doesnt have to be the shiki fujin technique but they may stand a chance
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    I reckon naruto's gonna find out about the war and convinces bee to help him fight. then with naruto's mastered powers over the kyuubi they're gonna take out all of Kabuto's summons while the shinobi army take out the zetsus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Plus i also hope that naruto creates a completely new move that has something to do with his crazy chakra!!!!!(Hopefully something that is just extreme power!)
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrael View Post
    winning is about convincing someone of whatever you are trying to accomplish.
    There are multiple ways to do this.
    A) Talk it through
    B) fight it through

    Naruto destroyed all of pein's six forms. So Naruto won the fight part. Pein was coughing out blood as he was talking - pretty sure that means naruto had the advantage. If Konan killed Naruto then technically, Pein wouldn't get the credit, Konan would. So either way Naruto won.

    So really, no, Pein is not stronger than Naruto because Naruto caused Pein to bend to Naruto's own will. Therefore, Naruto is stronger.

    Naruto only won because he got help from everyone from the frogs to Hintata. If it was a 1v1 fight and both were in their Prime and Pain wasnt soo sick and fatigue. Hands down Pain would destroy Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    In a fair fight Naruto would've epicly lost to Pain.
    However, he got help from the frogs, Jiraiya, Hinata and whatnot.
    Thats what made him win.

    Remember that he was pinned to the ground 1 sec away from capture when Hinata saved him.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Naruto still wins though. Frogs should be considered part of his technique...In fact... consider them as summons... Technically, pein has what... six different summons and 6 different abilities, and still could not beat a newbie naruto.
    .... if naruto had the same experience that Pein had, naruto would demolish pein within seconds.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrael View Post
    Naruto still wins though. Frogs should be considered part of his technique...In fact... consider them as summons... Technically, pein has what... six different summons and 6 different abilities, and still could not beat a newbie naruto.
    .... if naruto had the same experience that Pein had, naruto would demolish pein within seconds.
    Wrong! When Pain knew that Naruto wasn't in the village he just started wasting enormous amounts of chakra destroying the village to the point that he used Shinra Tensei.
    Still it was stupid by pain's part but when Pain started to fight Naruto he had way less than half of his chakra, he couldn't even use Deva path.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    I think Naruto in going to kick a lot asses in this war,
    especially with his new powers from the fox-chakra.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Spaulding View Post
    Wrong! When Pain knew that Naruto wasn't in the village he just started wasting enormous amounts of chakra destroying the village to the point that he used Shinra Tensei.
    Still it was stupid by pain's part but when Pain started to fight Naruto he had way less than half of his chakra, he couldn't even use Deva path.
    Actually, in this case, we are both wrong.
    Pein has the experience behind him, but not his full power. Naruto has his full power but lacks the experience.

    I declare it a tie.
     
         

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    Re: akatsuki,the former jinchuuriki,previous kages,hanzo and more... War opinions her

    WOW!

    Okay, you bet your arse everyone that Kabuto can summon will be summoned. That is the majority of his power now. He is a medical nin who doesn't have the same strength as Tsunade. He's always been a more tactical fighter.

    Soo Im'ma speculate:

    Kakashi learns new abilities (He will be this wars White Fang). He knows the power available to him after the Danzo fight and watching his ability have no effect on Madara. He will be ready.

    Gaara will be fighting on the front lines with Shikkamaru helping to plan the movements of the troops on the battlefield.

    The Kages will be a council who are probably going to go out on their own missions to assist where they are needed. Shikkaku will be with Tsunade as her main council.

    Naruto is gonna go to the leaf and/or go find Sasuke. I suspect he will escape from the group and a small group will be sent after him. Even if he doesn't do that, he for sure is not gonna sit back and let them come to him. More than likely, Naruto will head to the hideout where Sasuke is just in time for Sasuke to be ready for him. Will probably rescue Yamato in the process and learn the truth about the battle Madara had with the first.

    Epic fight continues..

    Jiraiya + Oro summons face-off with Tsunade

    Kage Summons clash with existing Kages

    Asuma vs. Shikkumaru/Team Asuma

    In the end, the Fourth Fights Naruto and Naruto makes Kabuto pay for it.

    Kakashi finds Madaras weakness, and almost kills him. Kakashi hesitates when Sasuke gets involved and Sasuke becomes known as the Slayer of the White Fang.

    Later on, Sasuke finishes off Madara and challenges Naruto to end the war. More than likely, Sasuke will want Naruto to put him out of his misery.


    /fin
     
         

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